Comments on: Baby P http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ryan Cullen http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69746 Ryan Cullen Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:42:31 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69746 We are now closing the comments on this thread. Unfortunatly our bandwidth usage has exceeded our monthly allowance on this post alone. Feel free to join one of the many Facebook groups lists in the comments if you wish to leave a message of respect for Baby P. We are now closing the comments on this thread. Unfortunatly our bandwidth usage has exceeded our monthly allowance on this post alone.
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]]> By: kyomi.. sharnie http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69743 kyomi.. sharnie Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:37:29 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69743 no child should be tourchered like that. the parents should have a very slow death. and we blame the social services, they should have noticed the abuse the parents were giving. it is discracefull. it just shows thst the social services don't do their job propaply. r.i.p no child should be tourchered like that. the parents should have a very slow death. and we blame the social services, they should have noticed the abuse the parents were giving. it is discracefull. it just shows thst the social services don’t do their job propaply.
r.i.p

]]> By: Sarah Jane http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69742 Sarah Jane Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:35:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69742 Linda even though people are saying RIP baby p even though he is dead and will never be peaceful anymore it makes it easier for us i think, i am in no way a religous person and i don't believe in God but when i hear things like this to innocent young babies it upsets me so much and makes me hope there is a god looking after him now and he is ok, to think that he was tortured to death and thats it for him is just heartbreaking (probably the truth but heartbreaking for me) so when i say RIP i'm hoping there is something else out there, they way i hope there is a hell for these 3 people where they will be in agonising pain for eternity Why can't you let me say the names of these 3 people i know their names and they should not be kept secret Jeffrey, Vicki & Linda we should defo get something organise to get a headstone for this poor child, he had nothing in life and in death, he deserves it, i really can't understand why his biological father hasn't done this? is he really poor or does he not care? i know he released a statment but there is a lot of questions unanswered i have for him Linda even though people are saying RIP baby p even though he is dead and will never be peaceful anymore it makes it easier for us i think, i am in no way a religous person and i don’t believe in God but when i hear things like this to innocent young babies it upsets me so much and makes me hope there is a god looking after him now and he is ok, to think that he was tortured to death and thats it for him is just heartbreaking (probably the truth but heartbreaking for me) so when i say RIP i’m hoping there is something else out there, they way i hope there is a hell for these 3 people where they will be in agonising pain for eternity
Why can’t you let me say the names of these 3 people i know their names and they should not be kept secret
Jeffrey, Vicki & Linda we should defo get something organise to get a headstone for this poor child, he had nothing in life and in death, he deserves it, i really can’t understand why his biological father hasn’t done this? is he really poor or does he not care? i know he released a statment but there is a lot of questions unanswered i have for him

]]> By: Darrell http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69741 Darrell Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:33:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69741 Gerri, I refer you to the link I posted last night. It seems obvious to you because you have read the hyped-up press reports which included the claim by The Times that Baby P suffered '17 months of enduring abuse' which as the posting puts it; "will surely be news to the child’s natural father, who lived in the family home for the first three of those 17 months according to The Times" In other words the facts are not blindingly obvious because you read hyped-up reports. In fact, I think the pall of emotion is increaseingly obscuring the fact them as it is doing rationality which as many people hav€e pointed out is downright dangerous. Gerri,

I refer you to the link I posted last night. It seems obvious to you because you have read the hyped-up press reports which included the claim by The Times that Baby P suffered ’17 months of enduring abuse’ which as the posting puts it;

“will surely be news to the child’s natural father, who lived in the family home for the first three of those 17 months according to The Times”

In other words the facts are not blindingly obvious because you read hyped-up reports. In fact, I think the pall of emotion is increaseingly obscuring the fact them as it is doing rationality which as many people hav€e pointed out is downright dangerous.

]]> By: Gerri http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69740 Gerri Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:17:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69740 to all you people STILL sticking up for Social Services. Are you thick? Of course it was the mothers fault and the two men who did this BUT Social Services are there for people who suffer at the hands of these sickos. Why else are they there? They messed up! Face it they are well paid unlike nurses and the such who have to be there for the community. Of course there is pressure but thats part of the job! The evidence was SO obvious and they chose to ignore it, if they hadnt this baby could have been saved! So stop going on that Social Workers have it hard, of course they do but so does the rest of the world, especiallly little abused kids like Baby P! He had it hard all his short life! Please again any ideas for some kind of memorial let me know to all you people STILL sticking up for Social Services. Are you thick? Of course it was the mothers fault and the two men who did this BUT Social Services are there for people who suffer at the hands of these sickos. Why else are they there? They messed up! Face it they are well paid unlike nurses and the such who have to be there for the community. Of course there is pressure but thats part of the job! The evidence was SO obvious and they chose to ignore it, if they hadnt this baby could have been saved! So stop going on that Social Workers have it hard, of course they do but so does the rest of the world, especiallly little abused kids like Baby P! He had it hard all his short life!

Please again any ideas for some kind of memorial let me know

]]> By: Darrell http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69735 Darrell Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:52:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69735 All those people criticising officials and people involved should ponder this; would you have done any better or are you rushing to judgement based on sensationalised press reports?? Have you ever made mistakes in your job?? I'm sure you have...like we all have...but that of course doesnt matter to anybody does it because 'people must pay'....somebody, anybody, must pay and it doesnt matter who.... If mistakes were made were made then they should be properly dealt with. I believe in the doctors case they have already been punished for his mistake. All those people criticising officials and people involved should ponder this; would you have done any better or are you rushing to judgement based on sensationalised press reports?? Have you ever made mistakes in your job?? I’m sure you have…like we all have…but that of course doesnt matter to anybody does it because ‘people must pay’….somebody, anybody, must pay and it doesnt matter who….

If mistakes were made were made then they should be properly dealt with. I believe in the doctors case they have already been punished for his mistake.

]]> By: Karen http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69734 Karen Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:45:43 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69734 I have just listened and watched George meehan's heartfelt and unreserved apology!!!! If that was heartfelt then he should be ashamed of himself. He miserably stumbled most of the words reading from a4 paper that was probably written for him by somebody who's writing he couldn't read. He only managed to look up once or twice and had no real emotion in his voice. he could have been talking about anything. Hope he dont think that he put anything right by his little pathetic performance. I have just listened and watched George meehan’s heartfelt and unreserved apology!!!! If that was heartfelt then he should be ashamed of himself. He miserably stumbled most of the words reading from a4 paper that was probably written for him by somebody who’s writing he couldn’t read. He only managed to look up once or twice and had no real emotion in his voice. he could have been talking about anything. Hope he dont think that he put anything right by his little pathetic performance.

]]> By: Louise http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69733 Louise Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:44:02 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69733 Geri, i feel exactly the same, i can't stop thinking about this beautiful little boy and burst into tears everytime i do! I was thinking the exact same thing last night about raising money for a headstone but was stuck on ways to do it At least if he was given that much his life would have counted for something! As for the comments from other people about social services being "under pressure" this is their job! Its there responsibility to realise when a child is being abused, broken ribs, broken neck, hospital trips! Not to mention the reports from police officers & the child minder! Come on, they failed that poor baby big time! Yes the maniacs that did this are to blame but so are the people that had the power to save him! Geri, i feel exactly the same, i can’t stop thinking about this beautiful little boy and burst into tears everytime i do! I was thinking the exact same thing last night about raising money for a headstone but was stuck on ways to do it At least if he was given that much his life would have counted for something! As for the comments from other people about social services being “under pressure” this is their job! Its there responsibility to realise when a child is being abused, broken ribs, broken neck, hospital trips! Not to mention the reports from police officers & the child minder! Come on, they failed that poor baby big time! Yes the maniacs that did this are to blame but so are the people that had the power to save him!

]]> By: denise http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69732 denise Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:40:03 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69732 why is everyone arguing over who was responsible? as a society we are ALL responsible. this is a tragedy that should have each and everyone of us hanging our heads in shame. i am so heartbroken, my 4 children don't understand why i woke them up one at a time last night and hugged them and kissed them and tucked them back in with special prayers. I hope to go to heaven when I die, if only to see baby p, to give him some of the love he never got here on earth, to hold him and pet him and to kiss away his hurts. I thank God, that in his infinite wisdom, he took this child home where no one can ever hurt him again. Were you one of the people who turned away from this child in obvious trouble, saying that this was not your problem? because it is. and because of the system, it could easily have been your child, your grandchild, your nephew, your neighbor. we should all be begging His forgiveness for allowing this to happen. you. the lady on the bus who looked away. you. the man at the grocery who saw the bruises and turned away. you. the social worker who was too busy to put this child's welfare first. you. the cop who felt it was wrong leaving the kid there but doing it anyway. you. the doctor who did not take the time to properly look over a child whose cries were obviously cries of pain. you. and you. and you. and me. why is everyone arguing over who was responsible? as a society we are ALL responsible. this is a tragedy that should have each and everyone of us hanging our heads in shame. i am so heartbroken, my 4 children don’t understand why i woke them up one at a time last night and hugged them and kissed them and tucked them back in with special prayers. I hope to go to heaven when I die, if only to see baby p, to give him some of the love he never got here on earth, to hold him and pet him and to kiss away his hurts. I thank God, that in his infinite wisdom, he took this child home where no one can ever hurt him again. Were you one of the people who turned away from this child in obvious trouble, saying that this was not your problem? because it is. and because of the system, it could easily have been your child, your grandchild, your nephew, your neighbor. we should all be begging His forgiveness for allowing this to happen. you. the lady on the bus who looked away. you. the man at the grocery who saw the bruises and turned away. you. the social worker who was too busy to put this child’s welfare first. you. the cop who felt it was wrong leaving the kid there but doing it anyway. you. the doctor who did not take the time to properly look over a child whose cries were obviously cries of pain. you. and you. and you. and me.

]]> By: Shifan http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69731 Shifan Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:57:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69731 I am a father of a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old; and I just cannot believe the atrocities committed against Baby P. Death penalty is the only solution to prevent such future atrocities. How can one even allow such devils to breathe another breath? I am a father of a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old; and I just cannot believe the atrocities committed against Baby P.

Death penalty is the only solution to prevent such future atrocities. How can one even allow such devils to breathe another breath?

]]> By: Jeffrey http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69702 Jeffrey Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:29:45 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69702 To nicola fittes, Where are you thinking of putting this headstone? I don't think baby P has a grave. I believe there was a simple service (before any of this tragic story was publicly known) in a park somewhere in London, I don't know where. I think he was cremated and his ashes sprinkled under an oak tree in the park. I think a memorial plaque on that tree might be a nice thing to do? Does everyone know about the blue balloons being released outside 10 Downing Street in December? You can release (or send) one with your own message on it for Baby P. Please go to this site: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=39559041804&ref=share Like many, I've never been so moved and affected by any child abuse story like this; and as I said in my other post, I will not forget this little boy. That last picture of him with his shorn hair and with his fingers in his mouth really upsets me. He'd been through so much by then, and his chocolate smeared little face looks so bewildered and lost. It's just too upsetting. God Bless you now little one. You can now giggle and smile and play and learn and be loved for ever and ever. Jeffrey xxx To nicola fittes,
Where are you thinking of putting this headstone? I don’t think baby P has a grave. I believe there was a simple service (before any of this tragic story was publicly known) in a park somewhere in London, I don’t know where. I think he was cremated and his ashes sprinkled under an oak tree in the park. I think a memorial plaque on that tree might be a nice thing to do?
Does everyone know about the blue balloons being released outside 10 Downing Street in December? You can release (or send) one with your own message on it for Baby P. Please go to this site: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=39559041804&ref=share
Like many, I’ve never been so moved and affected by any child abuse story like this; and as I said in my other post, I will not forget this little boy. That last picture of him with his shorn hair and with his fingers in his mouth really upsets me. He’d been through so much by then, and his chocolate smeared little face looks so bewildered and lost. It’s just too upsetting. God Bless you now little one. You can now giggle and smile and play and learn and be loved for ever and ever.
Jeffrey xxx

]]> By: Darrell http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69701 Darrell Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:28:17 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69701 What else dont we know indeed...i recommend the following blog posting... http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/11/17/a-week-in-the-death-of-common-decency/ What else dont we know indeed…i recommend the following blog posting…

http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2008/11/17/a-week-in-the-death-of-common-decency/

]]> By: demi caller http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69699 demi caller Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:22:30 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69699 i am absolutely appalled and upset by this little babys death when i heard about it i started to cry and i looked at my little brother who is 2 years old and looks exactly like baby p and actually wondered how someone could actually do this to a baby...i am only 16 years old and if i had a baby at my age i would try my best to give that baby the best out of life so how the hell does a 25 year old or however old she is not know how look after a baby and care for that poor little defenceless child ....how the **** did nobody notice this childs pain or how did they not pick up on the injuries he had a neighbour or residents must have heard little baby p's cries of pain so why not try and help him before it was too late ...well i hope that the people involved in this get what they deserve and if you are one of the people who did notice something and didnt say i hope your ashamed of yourself....R.I.P BABY P XXXXXXX i am absolutely appalled and upset by this little babys death when i heard about it i started to cry and i looked at my little brother who is 2 years old and looks exactly like baby p and actually wondered how someone could actually do this to a baby…i am only 16 years old and if i had a baby at my age i would try my best to give that baby the best out of life so how the hell does a 25 year old or however old she is not know how look after a baby and care for that poor little defenceless child ….how the **** did nobody notice this childs pain or how did they not pick up on the injuries he had a neighbour or residents must have heard little baby p’s cries of pain so why not try and help him before it was too late …well i hope that the people involved in this get what they deserve and if you are one of the people who did notice something and didnt say i hope your ashamed of yourself….R.I.P BABY P XXXXXXX

]]> By: stevie http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69696 stevie Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:51:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69696 i think this is wrong. i want to be a social worker myself but this does not give social workers a good name at all. how could they not notice how neglected and abused this young boy was! mothers like this should not be able to have kids! i think this is wrong. i want to be a social worker myself but this does not give social workers a good name at all. how could they not notice how neglected and abused this young boy was! mothers like this should not be able to have kids!

]]> By: Simon http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69694 Simon Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:42:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69694 There is no ideal solution to establish a fair and just punishment for these animals. I can't decide in my own mind what i see as justice - is it throwing them to the "mob"? Life imprisonment? Castration? Torture? Death penalty? Many seem disillusioned with our legal system and the punishment these murders will recieve; are we to vote as a nation upon what is or isnt justice? All we can do is voice our opinions and hope they are read by those with the power to decide upon a worthy sentence. There is no ideal solution to establish a fair and just punishment for these animals. I can’t decide in my own mind what i see as justice – is it throwing them to the “mob”? Life imprisonment? Castration? Torture? Death penalty? Many seem disillusioned with our legal system and the punishment these murders will recieve; are we to vote as a nation upon what is or isnt justice? All we can do is voice our opinions and hope they are read by those with the power to decide upon a worthy sentence.

]]> By: emma http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69693 emma Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:41:05 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69693 my 17mth old little boy is my world and i look at him ever day with so much joy and happiness and i feel so lucky and proud to have him in my life, both me and my partner as sickened and saddened at how these so called human beings, which they are far far far from that could of been and have been allowed to get away with what they have done... i was watching the news tonight and again was in floods of tiers cos i cant imagine for 1 minute HOW on earth they can sleep at night knowing what they have done...... and each and everyone of the social workers should be locked up and the keys thrown away, and they should never ever be allowed to go near another child again my 17mth old little boy is my world and i look at him ever day with so much joy and happiness and i feel so lucky and proud to have him in my life, both me and my partner as sickened and saddened at how these so called human beings, which they are far far far from that could of been and have been allowed to get away with what they have done… i was watching the news tonight and again was in floods of tiers cos i cant imagine for 1 minute HOW on earth they can sleep at night knowing what they have done…… and each and everyone of the social workers should be locked up and the keys thrown away, and they should never ever be allowed to go near another child again

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69692 Anonymous Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:39:45 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69692 It's annoying that Liberal Democrats in Haringey Borough don't have their own website, on occasions like this it would be interesting to get some first hand-information. It’s annoying that Liberal Democrats in Haringey Borough don’t have their own website, on occasions like this it would be interesting to get some first hand-information.

]]> By: Sue http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69688 Sue Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:32:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69688 I can't beleive that the parents got off so lightly, They deffently should be tortured for what they did to poor baby P. An innocent child could not be examined properly because he was crying well for a start should that not show a sign that the poor baby must of been in agony? I hope the parents of baby P has horrible night mares for the rest of there lives she should not be aloud to live. As for the social workers, well I know what like they, and to be polite I will say they are useless. I can’t beleive that the parents got off so lightly, They deffently should be tortured for what they did to poor baby P. An innocent child could not be examined properly because he was crying well for a start should that not show a sign that the poor baby must of been in agony? I hope the parents of baby P has horrible night mares for the rest of there lives she should not be aloud to live. As for the social workers, well I know what like they, and to be polite I will say they are useless.

]]> By: Chloe http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69687 Chloe Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:32:01 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69687 Oh my life, this shocks me so much, how the hell could anyone possibly even think about doing that to an inecent little boy? Its angered me so much. I cried when i read the story, im just so lucky to have good parents. Imagine how it felt for him, he was rejected by his own mother and step-father if you can even call them that. I really cannot believe it and was speechless when i heard about it. It's more than out of order it's outrageous, they deserve what they get in prison, as im sure everybody agrees!! Oh my life, this shocks me so much, how the hell could anyone possibly even think about doing that to an inecent little boy? Its angered me so much. I cried when i read the story, im just so lucky to have good parents. Imagine how it felt for him, he was rejected by his own mother and step-father if you can even call them that. I really cannot believe it and was speechless when i heard about it. It’s more than out of order it’s outrageous, they deserve what they get in prison, as im sure everybody agrees!!

]]> By: emma http://www.libdemvoice.org/baby-p-5867.html#comment-69686 emma Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:29:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=5867#comment-69686 nicola and gerri glad you think the same as me.... nicola and gerri glad you think the same as me….

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