Comments on: +++ BREAKING: Conservative MEP defects to Liberal Democrats http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Niklas Smith http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110488 Niklas Smith Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:20:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110488 For some unidentifiable reason (the comment has no link in it), my comment appears to have stuck in the spam filter. Or has moderation been turned on? For some unidentifiable reason (the comment has no link in it), my comment appears to have stuck in the spam filter. Or has moderation been turned on?

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110464 Steve Green Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:31:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110464 Ah well, I tried. Sorry to the regular readers if this turned into a Gosport slanging match. It was not my intention when I left my first comment which was actually about the subject of this post. Cheers Steve. Ah well, I tried. Sorry to the regular readers if this turned into a Gosport slanging match. It was not my intention when I left my first comment which was actually about the subject of this post. Cheers Steve.

]]> By: fdp100 http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110457 fdp100 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:42:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110457 Peter - The nasty party can be really really nasty when they want to, but its just sour grapes when they have lost the arguement. The Tories have never taken me to court, but they used regularly to report me to the Standards Board for England and were rejected. I only found out of course when I had letters from the Board on posh headed notepaper telling me the result. Keep to the policies and keep campaigning. That's what the electorate understand. They soon sus out the likes of Steve Green. The more extreme he gets the more our votes will pile up. Its this doubt about the true Conservative party which Cameron is trying to hide which is giving us such a great opportunity. Labour is so awful I can understand why people are looking elsewhere. Keep banging out the 4 LibDem policies and the fairness agenda! Peter – The nasty party can be really really nasty when they want to, but its just sour grapes when they have lost the arguement. The Tories have never taken me to court, but they used regularly to report me to the Standards Board for England and were rejected. I only found out of course when I had letters from the Board on posh headed notepaper telling me the result.
Keep to the policies and keep campaigning. That’s what the electorate understand. They soon sus out the likes of Steve Green. The more extreme he gets the more our votes will pile up. Its this doubt about the true Conservative party which Cameron is trying to hide which is giving us such a great opportunity. Labour is so awful I can understand why people are looking elsewhere. Keep banging out the 4 LibDem policies and the fairness agenda!

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110449 Peter Chegwyn Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:24:58 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110449 P.S. As this debate was originally about a Conservative MEP defecting to the Lib. Dems. you could always do the same Steve? Then we really could be friends! P.S. As this debate was originally about a Conservative MEP defecting to the Lib. Dems. you could always do the same Steve?

Then we really could be friends!

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110448 Peter Chegwyn Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:21:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110448 Steve Green: "It would be nice to have a good, clean and friendly election campaign." Agreed. The Liberal Democrats always conduct "good, clean and friendly election campaigns" in Gosport. Sadly the Conservatives do not. Which is probably why a High Court Judge recently described Conservative leaflets issued against me in Gosport as "entirely untrue" and "defamatory". Now why don't we just end this personal exchange on a public messageboard and get back to campaigning. It's a lovely sunny day. I'm off delivering my latest "good, clean and friendly" Focus! Steve Green: “It would be nice to have a good, clean and friendly election campaign.”

Agreed. The Liberal Democrats always conduct “good, clean and friendly election campaigns” in Gosport.

Sadly the Conservatives do not.

Which is probably why a High Court Judge recently described Conservative leaflets issued against me in Gosport as “entirely untrue” and “defamatory”.

Now why don’t we just end this personal exchange on a public messageboard and get back to campaigning.

It’s a lovely sunny day. I’m off delivering my latest “good, clean and friendly” Focus!

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110442 Steve Green Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:56:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110442 Peter, why don't we just bury the hatchet? Our falling out like this is not in the best interest of the people of Gosport. It would be nice to have a good, clean and friendly election campaign. How about it? Good luck and Regards Steve Green Peter, why don’t we just bury the hatchet? Our falling out like this is not in the best interest of the people of Gosport. It would be nice to have a good, clean and friendly election campaign. How about it?

Good luck and Regards

Steve Green

]]> By: Jock http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110430 Jock Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:02:19 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110430 Well what a faff over nothing! Steve doesn't need me to defend him, but I know who *appears* personally to be the childish one in this exchange, and it ain't him. But I'm not going to get any more drawn into what appears to be a right old Hampshire hullabaloo! Well what a faff over nothing! Steve doesn’t need me to defend him, but I know who *appears* personally to be the childish one in this exchange, and it ain’t him. But I’m not going to get any more drawn into what appears to be a right old Hampshire hullabaloo!

]]> By: Jock http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110426 Jock Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:39:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110426 I don't see any snide comments in this thread, until about, let's see, <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110275" rel="nofollow">here</a>, really. Then the whole thread gets turned into a petty little tit-for-tat private conversation. Oh, well. Must be the sea air, all that ozone. Peter, I realise there's no accounting for taste, but we do get Tories on here frequently enough. I hardly think it amounts to "infiltration" (especially since Steve doesn't exactly hide <a href="http://dailyreferendum.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">who he is</a>). I don’t see any snide comments in this thread, until about, let’s see, here, really. Then the whole thread gets turned into a petty little tit-for-tat private conversation.

Oh, well. Must be the sea air, all that ozone.

Peter, I realise there’s no accounting for taste, but we do get Tories on here frequently enough. I hardly think it amounts to “infiltration” (especially since Steve doesn’t exactly hide who he is).

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110414 Steve Green Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:52:08 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110414 Peter, And the Lib Dems are always going to be the third party because..........? Peter, And the Lib Dems are always going to be the third party because……….?

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110413 Peter Chegwyn Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:44:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110413 Yawn (again). If the Conservative Party is full of people like Steve Green it helps explain why their poll rating is down again in two polls tomorrow. Yawn (again). If the Conservative Party is full of people like Steve Green it helps explain why their poll rating is down again in two polls tomorrow.

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110409 Steve Green Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:17:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110409 I posted on here first Peter, you came on here accusing me of all sorts, and now you look a bit silly. See ya xxx I posted on here first Peter, you came on here accusing me of all sorts, and now you look a bit silly. See ya xxx

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110405 Peter Chegwyn Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:05:25 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110405 Yawn. Now you're getting boring. Kindly desist. I've got better things to do than read Conservative blogs. Yawn. Now you’re getting boring. Kindly desist. I’ve got better things to do than read Conservative blogs.

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110401 Steve Green Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:55:41 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110401 Peter, If you click on my name it takes you to my blog, it is hardly espionage. The header on my blog says: Steve Green's Daily Referendum. I'm a well known Conservative blogger. I do think you are getting a bit carried away with this conspiracy theory stuff. Chill out Peter :-) Peter, If you click on my name it takes you to my blog, it is hardly espionage. The header on my blog says: Steve Green’s Daily Referendum. I’m a well known Conservative blogger. I do think you are getting a bit carried away with this conspiracy theory stuff. Chill out Peter :-)

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110398 Peter Chegwyn Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:46:16 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110398 Yep! I was right. Steve Green has confirmed he is indeed the Conservative Steve Green from Gosport. Nice to know he has nothing better to do than try to infiltrate Liberal Democrat boards without revealing his membership of the nasty party! They never learn! Yep! I was right. Steve Green has confirmed he is indeed the Conservative Steve Green from Gosport. Nice to know he has nothing better to do than try to infiltrate Liberal Democrat boards without revealing his membership of the nasty party! They never learn!

]]> By: Steve Green http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110386 Steve Green Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:39:08 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110386 Is that the same Peter Chegwyn who is suspended from being a councillor? The same one who had his comments removed from the UK Polling Report site for publishing my address on there? Was my comment snide? possibly yes. Was it inaccurate? No. And Peter, I'm a blogger, I read blogs and comment on them sometimes. It is hardly "infiltrating" - calm down dear, you are starting sound hysterical. Is that the same Peter Chegwyn who is suspended from being a councillor? The same one who had his comments removed from the UK Polling Report site for publishing my address on there? Was my comment snide? possibly yes. Was it inaccurate? No. And Peter, I’m a blogger, I read blogs and comment on them sometimes. It is hardly “infiltrating” – calm down dear, you are starting sound hysterical.

]]> By: burkesworks http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110277 burkesworks Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:25:22 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110277 Good news all round. Edward McMillan-Scott acted with dignity and probity with his stand over the Euro-Tories' lurch to loonyland. A long way from any kind of paradigm shift yet, but a solid start. Welcome aboard, Edward. Good news all round. Edward McMillan-Scott acted with dignity and probity with his stand over the Euro-Tories’ lurch to loonyland. A long way from any kind of paradigm shift yet, but a solid start. Welcome aboard, Edward.

]]> By: Peter Chegwyn http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110275 Peter Chegwyn Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:00:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110275 I wonder if the Steve Green who posted a rather snide comment above is the same Steve Green who is standing for the Conservative Party in the Gosport Council elections this May... a man who spends his entire life infiltrating other people's websites? Surely not! On the subject of the defection, it's good news. Edward MacMillan-Scott has been around a long time and his change of colours shows again how Cameron's Conservatives are losing some of their longest-standing members who don't share the near-UKIP hostility towards Europe of many on the Tory right. I wonder if the Steve Green who posted a rather snide comment above is the same Steve Green who is standing for the Conservative Party in the Gosport Council elections this May… a man who spends his entire life infiltrating other people’s websites? Surely not!

On the subject of the defection, it’s good news. Edward MacMillan-Scott has been around a long time and his change of colours shows again how Cameron’s Conservatives are losing some of their longest-standing members who don’t share the near-UKIP hostility towards Europe of many on the Tory right.

]]> By: Antony Hook http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110274 Antony Hook Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:42:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110274 The Lib Dem European Group fringe, organised with Project 3, is at 8pm Saturday, ICC Hall 5. The Lib Dem European Group fringe, organised with Project 3, is at 8pm Saturday, ICC Hall 5.

]]> By: fdp100 http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110258 fdp100 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:13:27 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110258 Tories with double barrelled names defect to the LibDems. In the East Mids we have Bill Newton-Dunn who defected from the Tories. Cameron's policies on Europe are ridiculous. He was probably told to do it by Ashcroft, who like Murdoch is against anything he can't buy. Tories with double barrelled names defect to the LibDems. In the East Mids we have Bill Newton-Dunn who defected from the Tories. Cameron’s policies on Europe are ridiculous. He was probably told to do it by Ashcroft, who like Murdoch is against anything he can’t buy.

]]> By: Jock http://www.libdemvoice.org/bresking-conservative-mep-defects-to-liberal-democrats-18314.html#comment-110249 Jock Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:53:12 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=18314#comment-110249 <blockquote>He should stand down as he was elected as a Tory (but he is welcome of course)</blockquote> Yes, of course he should, just like Saj did! But there is a problem with that in the Euro-Parliament - his stepping down would not provoke a by-election in which he could put his change of heart to the electorate. The Conservative party, however they do these things, put him on their list, knowing his misgivings about their proposed course of action WRT forming their far-right nationalist friends' circle jerk group., Whilst party discipline in a parliamentary or even council group is important, and though he presumably made his stand for the Vice-Presidency knowing that it was against a majority (?) decision of his parliamentary group, they were the ones who booted him out from their group.

He should stand down as he was elected as a Tory (but he is welcome of course)

Yes, of course he should, just like Saj did! But there is a problem with that in the Euro-Parliament – his stepping down would not provoke a by-election in which he could put his change of heart to the electorate. The Conservative party, however they do these things, put him on their list, knowing his misgivings about their proposed course of action WRT forming their far-right nationalist friends’ circle jerk group., Whilst party discipline in a parliamentary or even council group is important, and though he presumably made his stand for the Vice-Presidency knowing that it was against a majority (?) decision of his parliamentary group, they were the ones who booted him out from their group.

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