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	<title>Comments on: Brian Coleman and his taxi bills</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Coleman (aka Mr Toad) has GOT to go</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72928</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Coleman (aka Mr Toad) has GOT to go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Coleman (aka Mr Toad) has GOT to go!:

Facebook:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Coleman (aka Mr Toad) has GOT to go!:</p>
<p>Facebook:<br />
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<p>MySpace:<br />
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		<title>By: Chris Squire</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72865</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Squire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about anything and judging by what I had at that point read;  her blog entry makes it a lot clearer what happened:&lt;i&gt; &#039;Within a couple of minutes the firefighters arrived - checked everything - said it was a hammer airlock (probably) and that we had done the right thing.&#039;&lt;/i&gt; If she had never heard a water hammer before I can understand her alarm. It is well explained at: &lt;i&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_hammer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about anything and judging by what I had at that point read;  her blog entry makes it a lot clearer what happened:<i> &#8216;Within a couple of minutes the firefighters arrived &#8211; checked everything &#8211; said it was a hammer airlock (probably) and that we had done the right thing.&#8217;</i> If she had never heard a water hammer before I can understand her alarm. It is well explained at: <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_hammer" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_hammer</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: David Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72855</link>
		<dc:creator>David Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling a plumber would have been a ludicrous waste of time.  The crucial decision was whether or not to go back to a boiler that seemed to be on the point of explosion and switch it off.  Being stupid, blokish and blase, I&#039;d probably have saved my house by going for the switch.  Being rational, Lynne put life before property.  The fire brigade have said she got it right.  For Mr Coleman to call her &quot;dizzy&quot; deserves one of those LDV awards for Sexist Politician of the Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling a plumber would have been a ludicrous waste of time.  The crucial decision was whether or not to go back to a boiler that seemed to be on the point of explosion and switch it off.  Being stupid, blokish and blase, I&#8217;d probably have saved my house by going for the switch.  Being rational, Lynne put life before property.  The fire brigade have said she got it right.  For Mr Coleman to call her &#8220;dizzy&#8221; deserves one of those LDV awards for Sexist Politician of the Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72851</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris / Old Hack (and others): I&#039;m curious. The Fire Brigade says it was right to call them out. Yet you both seem absolutely sure that it was wrong to call them out. I don&#039;t know if you have any experience of working in the fire service, but what is it that make you so sure the Fire Brigade shouldn&#039;t have been called, even though they themselves say they should have been?

(To be fair, I know you&#039;re not the only people this question could be addressed at, but as you&#039;re the most recent commenters you get the short straw :-) )

Chris: answer to your question is that Lynne&#039;s blog piece is at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris / Old Hack (and others): I&#8217;m curious. The Fire Brigade says it was right to call them out. Yet you both seem absolutely sure that it was wrong to call them out. I don&#8217;t know if you have any experience of working in the fire service, but what is it that make you so sure the Fire Brigade shouldn&#8217;t have been called, even though they themselves say they should have been?</p>
<p>(To be fair, I know you&#8217;re not the only people this question could be addressed at, but as you&#8217;re the most recent commenters you get the short straw <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Chris: answer to your question is that Lynne&#8217;s blog piece is at <a href="http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72844</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natural selection in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natural selection in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72843</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alix - or perished in a gas explosion in a very manly way. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alix &#8211; or perished in a gas explosion in a very manly way. <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clegg's Candid Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72842</link>
		<dc:creator>Clegg's Candid Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Undeterred, Mr Coleman responded to the accusation of sexism by saying: &quot;Would a man have called the fire brigade? I don&#039;t know.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/3724065/MP-Lynne-Featherstone-branded-dizzy-airhead-for-calling-fire-brigade-to-tackle-boiler.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Undeterred, Mr Coleman responded to the accusation of sexism by saying: &#8220;Would a man have called the fire brigade? I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</i><br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/3724065/MP-Lynne-Featherstone-branded-dizzy-airhead-for-calling-fire-brigade-to-tackle-boiler.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/3724065/MP-Lynne-Featherstone-branded-dizzy-airhead-for-calling-fire-brigade-to-tackle-boiler.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72840</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CALL A PLUMBER???&quot;

Gosh, pity the poor sod whose &quot;big strong life partner&quot; Old Hack is. Next time your boiler starts acting up, by all means try calling a plumber. There&#039;ll be a slight delay while they laugh themselves sick at your unremitting numptiness and find you the number of a CORGI-registered gas engineer, but hey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CALL A PLUMBER???&#8221;</p>
<p>Gosh, pity the poor sod whose &#8220;big strong life partner&#8221; Old Hack is. Next time your boiler starts acting up, by all means try calling a plumber. There&#8217;ll be a slight delay while they laugh themselves sick at your unremitting numptiness and find you the number of a CORGI-registered gas engineer, but hey.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Hack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72838</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that it&#039;s reasonable to expect you to be fair, being Liberal Democrats, but given Ms Featherstone&#039;s net worth surely it was not out if the question for her to do what Cllr Coleman suggested and CALL A PLUMBER???

Anyway, surely she has a big strong life partner of some description? Or being Lib Dem there&#039;s a big element of indecisiveness in all this leading to what Lib Dems in similar public positions do when they cannot decide - waste public money.

As for Coleman&#039;s taxi bill - pots and kettles chaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it&#8217;s reasonable to expect you to be fair, being Liberal Democrats, but given Ms Featherstone&#8217;s net worth surely it was not out if the question for her to do what Cllr Coleman suggested and CALL A PLUMBER???</p>
<p>Anyway, surely she has a big strong life partner of some description? Or being Lib Dem there&#8217;s a big element of indecisiveness in all this leading to what Lib Dems in similar public positions do when they cannot decide &#8211; waste public money.</p>
<p>As for Coleman&#8217;s taxi bill &#8211; pots and kettles chaps.</p>
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		<title>By: MatGB</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72833</link>
		<dc:creator>MatGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, the Mail, relevant as ever, is attacking her for something that happened weeks ago:
http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm

Quote from the Fire Brigade on the BBC version of the story makes it clear she did exactly the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, the Mail, relevant as ever, is attacking her for something that happened weeks ago:<br />
<a href="http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2008/11/fire-brigade-rushes-to-help.htm</a></p>
<p>Quote from the Fire Brigade on the BBC version of the story makes it clear she did exactly the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Squire</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72826</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Squire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much as I esteem LF, I agree with John Kimble: she comes across as gormless in this instance; where can I read LF&#039;s account of what happened? It&#039;s not on her blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I esteem LF, I agree with John Kimble: she comes across as gormless in this instance; where can I read LF&#8217;s account of what happened? It&#8217;s not on her blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72819</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynne acted as any sensible person would in that situation - she got herself and her children out of (potential) danger and called the people who had the expertise to deal with situation.

If only we could trust more politicians to do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne acted as any sensible person would in that situation &#8211; she got herself and her children out of (potential) danger and called the people who had the expertise to deal with situation.</p>
<p>If only we could trust more politicians to do that!</p>
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		<title>By: John Kimble</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72818</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both Coleman and Featherstone are complete idiots.

The biggest issue is Featherstone&#039;s stupid behaviour - remember it was only her daughter who actually had the intelligence to turn off the boiler and avoid the need for a genuine fire bridage call out.

If someone doesn&#039;t have the common sense to switch off a malfunctioning appliance and just panics instead how on earth would she behave if she was in government and actually faced a real crisis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both Coleman and Featherstone are complete idiots.</p>
<p>The biggest issue is Featherstone&#8217;s stupid behaviour &#8211; remember it was only her daughter who actually had the intelligence to turn off the boiler and avoid the need for a genuine fire bridage call out.</p>
<p>If someone doesn&#8217;t have the common sense to switch off a malfunctioning appliance and just panics instead how on earth would she behave if she was in government and actually faced a real crisis?</p>
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		<title>By: MatGB</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72811</link>
		<dc:creator>MatGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark (the Tory): sensible Tories in blogdom are far too rare, get thee to Wordpress and set up.

Dr Pack: thanks for the reminder of this, will try to follow up tomorrow. Nice comments from Caroline. Coleman really is a tedious cock, I thought it was just Londoners being nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark (the Tory): sensible Tories in blogdom are far too rare, get thee to WordPress and set up.</p>
<p>Dr Pack: thanks for the reminder of this, will try to follow up tomorrow. Nice comments from Caroline. Coleman really is a tedious cock, I thought it was just Londoners being nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I say my piece, let me make clear that I am a Tory.

I think that Ms. Featherstone did precisely the right thing and certainly what any sensible person would do (I hope) if their boiler started behaving in a similar way, unexpectedly.

Perhaps Brian Coleman wouldn&#039;t take the same actions.  In which case, perhaps the people of London would be better off without him.

I have no objection to politicians &quot;making hay&quot; out of the foolish, dangerous, illegal, immoral or plain idiotic actions of their opponents, but I have a huge problem with the idea that they start attacking something which is perfectly sensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I say my piece, let me make clear that I am a Tory.</p>
<p>I think that Ms. Featherstone did precisely the right thing and certainly what any sensible person would do (I hope) if their boiler started behaving in a similar way, unexpectedly.</p>
<p>Perhaps Brian Coleman wouldn&#8217;t take the same actions.  In which case, perhaps the people of London would be better off without him.</p>
<p>I have no objection to politicians &#8220;making hay&#8221; out of the foolish, dangerous, illegal, immoral or plain idiotic actions of their opponents, but I have a huge problem with the idea that they start attacking something which is perfectly sensible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Lynne Featherstone wouldn&#039;t have called the fire brigade, and the boiler would have exploded, I&#039;m sure Mr Coleman would have criticised her for not calling the fire brigade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Lynne Featherstone wouldn&#8217;t have called the fire brigade, and the boiler would have exploded, I&#8217;m sure Mr Coleman would have criticised her for not calling the fire brigade.</p>
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		<title>By: David Morton</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/brian-coleman-7071.html#comment-72807</link>
		<dc:creator>David Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Gov in tommorrows Sunday Times

Con 41 Up 1
Lab 35 down 1
LD  15 up 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Gov in tommorrows Sunday Times</p>
<p>Con 41 Up 1<br />
Lab 35 down 1<br />
LD  15 up 1</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Cooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a display of utter twattery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a display of utter twattery.</p>
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		<title>By: David Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Com Res in tommorrows IoS.

Con 37 No Change
Lab 36 No Change
LD  14 Down 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Com Res in tommorrows IoS.</p>
<p>Con 37 No Change<br />
Lab 36 No Change<br />
LD  14 Down 3</p>
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