Comments on: Brown double-counts Iraq troop withdrawal figures http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Geoffrey Payne http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30617 Geoffrey Payne Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:58:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30617 That should read "whether our troops stay or leave ..." Sorry about that, cannot edit comments. That should read
“whether our troops stay or leave …”

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]]> By: Geoffrey Payne http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30616 Geoffrey Payne Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:56:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30616 Of course the reason given is that our troops are "handing over" control to the "Iraqi forces". Does anyone imagine they are not already infiltrated by insurgents? Does anyone really think that the regions "handed over" are now relatively safe and secure? If they were, the journalists will go there and say so, maybe even Brown could do that. But he won't because it is too dangerous to go there. In truth Iraq today is a no-win situation. Whether are troops stay or leave we are dammed, but we still have to make a choice. What is going on is nothing less than propaganda. The occupying forces in Iraq are defeated and there is nothing anyone can do about it. All the occupying troops should leave. Iraq will turn into chaos, but that is what it is in most regions today anyway. In the meantime our troops stay, putting their lives at risk in order to prevent Gordan Brown from looking stupid under the pretence that they are "finishing a job". A high price to pay for a politician's vanity. Of course the reason given is that our troops are “handing over” control to the “Iraqi forces”. Does anyone imagine they are not already infiltrated by insurgents? Does anyone really think that the regions “handed over” are now relatively safe and secure? If they were, the journalists will go there and say so, maybe even Brown could do that. But he won’t because it is too dangerous to go there.
In truth Iraq today is a no-win situation. Whether are troops stay or leave we are dammed, but we still have to make a choice. What is going on is nothing less than propaganda. The occupying forces in Iraq are defeated and there is nothing anyone can do about it. All the occupying troops should leave. Iraq will turn into chaos, but that is what it is in most regions today anyway.
In the meantime our troops stay, putting their lives at risk in order to prevent Gordan Brown from looking stupid under the pretence that they are “finishing a job”. A high price to pay for a politician’s vanity.

]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30615 Chris Paul Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:45:07 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/brown-double-counts-iraq-troop-withdrawal-figures-1434.html#comment-30615 At least this coverage is not so bad as the hysteria from Tory Boy Bloggers. Have you seen the text of the announcement Mark and the notes for editors? Or just some garbled version? Clearly it has been the pattern for sometime to get several bites of the cherry with any news of this kind. Prospect of, budget for, firm plans for, actually happening now, actuality of being done. But usually GB would say somewhere in the announcement something like: This 500 is in addition to the 500 already announced on XX/YY. He is better than Blair at that detail. Anyway, never mind. The Tory foaming at the mouth brigade want every i dotted and every t crossed in announcements to parliament which is (a) silly and (b) would be condemned by them if it happened. What? No good news or action during recesses? At least this coverage is not so bad as the hysteria from Tory Boy Bloggers. Have you seen the text of the announcement Mark and the notes for editors? Or just some garbled version?

Clearly it has been the pattern for sometime to get several bites of the cherry with any news of this kind. Prospect of, budget for, firm plans for, actually happening now, actuality of being done.

But usually GB would say somewhere in the announcement something like: This 500 is in addition to the 500 already announced on XX/YY. He is better than Blair at that detail.

Anyway, never mind. The Tory foaming at the mouth brigade want every i dotted and every t crossed in announcements to parliament which is (a) silly and (b) would be condemned by them if it happened.

What? No good news or action during recesses?

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