Comments on: Cameron suffers biggest revolt of leadership (oh, and some thoughts on the Lib Dems, too) http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BJH http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-45877 BJH Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:41:51 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-45877 How can you all talk about the details! This was as shameful a performance as I have seen for years. Democracy! What democracy. Britain’s government consists of three parties that will never give the people a vote on Europe (no matter what nick clegg says he really wants) because they would lose that vote. Time for a change. How can you all talk about the details! This was as shameful a performance as I have seen for years. Democracy! What democracy. Britain’s government consists of three parties that will never give the people a vote on Europe (no matter what nick clegg says he really wants) because they would lose that vote. Time for a change.

]]> By: James Graham http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41816 James Graham Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:17:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41816 The fact that it was a free vote for the Tories just makes Clegg's insistence on a three line whip worse. Having said that, it isn't a trick that Cameron can continue to play in government. I've been banging on about the fact that they rebel against his line and he lets them for years now. This isn't a party that looks like it could run a paper bag, let alone a country. Admittedly, that's fighting talk coming from a Lib Dem at the moment. But no less true. The fact that it was a free vote for the Tories just makes Clegg’s insistence on a three line whip worse.

Having said that, it isn’t a trick that Cameron can continue to play in government. I’ve been banging on about the fact that they rebel against his line and he lets them for years now. This isn’t a party that looks like it could run a paper bag, let alone a country.

Admittedly, that’s fighting talk coming from a Lib Dem at the moment. But no less true.

]]> By: Sal http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41811 Sal Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:48:10 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41811 Surely there is a contradiction in asking why Nick imposed a three line whip and then comparing our position to Tories, who didn't. Are you not saying he should have done the same as Cameron? Surely there is a contradiction in asking why Nick imposed a three line whip and then comparing our position to Tories, who didn’t.
Are you not saying he should have done the same as Cameron?

]]> By: Jo http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41810 Jo Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:44:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41810 Yes I agree but surely 20% sounds less offensive than a quarter? I agree it was a bit of unwanted PR but will play itself out in the end... Yes I agree but surely 20% sounds less offensive than a quarter?

I agree it was a bit of unwanted PR but will play itself out in the end…

]]> By: Big Mak http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41808 Big Mak Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:41:19 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41808 Jo I think that is semantics, it was bad be it 20, 25 or 15% of the party. I have commented further on a closed forum but this is far from out finest hour and a real bit of unwanted/bad PR for us. Jo I think that is semantics, it was bad be it 20, 25 or 15% of the party.

I have commented further on a closed forum but this is far from out finest hour and a real bit of unwanted/bad PR for us.

]]> By: cgp http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41806 cgp Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:32:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41806 Stephen Tall There's a correction immediately after the text you quoted, saying that it was actually a free vote for Tory backbenchers! Chris Phillips Stephen Tall

There’s a correction immediately after the text you quoted, saying that it was actually a free vote for Tory backbenchers!

Chris Phillips

]]> By: Jo http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41805 Jo Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:25:54 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/cameron-suffers-biggest-revolt-of-leadership-oh-and-some-thoughts-on-the-lib-dems-too-2291.html#comment-41805 How many MPs do we have? Is it 63? A quarter of 63 is about 15 or 16? I'm sure only 13 rebelled fidn't they? That makes it a fifth, or 20%, not a lot of difference but it matters when the numbers are so small... Why do the BBC and other media outlets think we only have 52 MPs? How many MPs do we have? Is it 63? A quarter of 63 is about 15 or 16? I’m sure only 13 rebelled fidn’t they? That makes it a fifth, or 20%, not a lot of difference but it matters when the numbers are so small…

Why do the BBC and other media outlets think we only have 52 MPs?

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