Comments on: Clare Short to stand down and back Lib Dems in delivering PR? http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Will http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-179 Will Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:16:56 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-179 I'm not sure we do... I’m not sure we do…

]]> By: leon http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-176 leon Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:48:10 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-176 So, Clare decides to jump ship after realising that the swing of votes away from Labour may actually be a boon? She then implies she might run as an indy while hoping for a hung parliament and PR. Sounds very calculated to me, you sure you LibDemers want her in your party!? So, Clare decides to jump ship after realising that the swing of votes away from Labour may actually be a boon? She then implies she might run as an indy while hoping for a hung parliament and PR. Sounds very calculated to me, you sure you LibDemers want her in your party!?

]]> By: Joe Otten http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-175 Joe Otten Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:40:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-175 According to the quote here http://letsbesensible.blogspot.com/2006/09/odd-campaign.html Short seems to be pretending that we don't exist. According to the quote here http://letsbesensible.blogspot.com/2006/09/odd-campaign.html Short seems to be pretending that we don’t exist.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-87 Eddie Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:43:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-87 Peter Hain has a long standing support for AV. Unfortunately, AV is no more proportional than FPTP. However, I doubt such nuances will be picked up by our moronic media, and they will say "Hain supports PR like the big wusses in the EU!" Peter Hain has a long standing support for AV. Unfortunately, AV is no more proportional than FPTP. However, I doubt such nuances will be picked up by our moronic media, and they will say “Hain supports PR like the big wusses in the EU!”

]]> By: willhowells http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-84 willhowells Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:16:26 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-84 I think you're right. It might have given them bigger wins in 1997 and 2001, but could make them fall even further the next time they lose power. I think you’re right. It might have given them bigger wins in 1997 and 2001, but could make them fall even further the next time they lose power.

]]> By: Oxonian http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-83 Oxonian Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:33:58 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-83 Gawd - let's hope she doesn't try and defect to us ;) Interesting that this is juxtaposed with the story about Peter Hain's priorities/manifesto for the Lab Deputy Leadership. Apparently one of his priorities is PR ... though commentators seem to think he's talking about AV rather than a proportional system. For some strange reason Labour people seem to think AV would help them, whereas in reality I reckon it's just more likely to exaggerate prevailing tactical voting trends (which are fluid). Gawd – let’s hope she doesn’t try and defect to us ;)

Interesting that this is juxtaposed with the story about Peter Hain’s priorities/manifesto for the Lab Deputy Leadership. Apparently one of his priorities is PR … though commentators seem to think he’s talking about AV rather than a proportional system.

For some strange reason Labour people seem to think AV would help them, whereas in reality I reckon it’s just more likely to exaggerate prevailing tactical voting trends (which are fluid).

]]> By: Andrea http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-80 Andrea Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:40:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-80 It's in Indy now too (the Pandora column) It’s in Indy now too (the Pandora column)

]]> By: peter http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-68 peter Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:21:41 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-68 This reminded me of an interview from several months ago where or clare made a point of speaking warmly of Ming http://www.liberalreview.com/blogs/apollo/clare_4_ming This reminded me of an interview from several months ago where or clare made a point of speaking warmly of Ming

http://www.liberalreview.com/blogs/apollo/clare_4_ming

]]> By: leon http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-62 leon Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:34:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-62 Recess Monkey has picked it up so I guess it must have something to it. No doubt Guido or Iain will be on it and then the mainstream press will bother to cover it... http://www.recessmonkey.com/2006/09/12/clare-short-to-retire/ Recess Monkey has picked it up so I guess it must have something to it. No doubt Guido or Iain will be on it and then the mainstream press will bother to cover it…

http://www.recessmonkey.com/2006/09/12/clare-short-to-retire/

]]> By: Colin Ross http://www.libdemvoice.org/clare-short-to-stand-down-and-back-lib-dems-in-delivering-pr-30.html#comment-61 Colin Ross Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:20:28 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=30#comment-61 I also saw this earlier today and like you have never heard of the website. Ladywoodshould be an interesting seat - the Liberal Democrats had a 20% swing to us in 2005, also I suspect the all-women shortlist mentioned in the article will be a mistake in this constituency, the retirement of Short and her ability to attack Labour should make it an intersting election. Colin I also saw this earlier today and like you have never heard of the website. Ladywoodshould be an interesting seat – the Liberal Democrats had a 20% swing to us in 2005, also I suspect the all-women shortlist mentioned in the article will be a mistake in this constituency, the retirement of Short and her ability to attack Labour should make it an intersting election.

Colin

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