Comments on: Clegg stands by Mulholland (UPDATED) http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:38:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Peter McGrath http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39535 Peter McGrath Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:18:31 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39535 I'd rather have an MP on our books who shows a bit of humanity and occasionally lets go a bit a of the language most of use use and take for granted. Who hasn't said worse about the Prime Minister when he's egregiously not answering questions*, or robotic Labour ministers or backbenchers. Off your high horses: Greg said what a lot of us think. Swearing is a laxative which purges the soul (Spike Milligan). * I still admire Lynne Featherstone's restraint for not lunging across the chamber and slapping Brown cross-eyed for his disgraceful non-answer to her perfectly reasonable question about Heathrow. I’d rather have an MP on our books who shows a bit of humanity and occasionally lets go a bit a of the language most of use use and take for granted. Who hasn’t said worse about the Prime Minister when he’s egregiously not answering questions*, or robotic Labour ministers or backbenchers. Off your high horses: Greg said what a lot of us think. Swearing is a laxative which purges the soul (Spike Milligan).

* I still admire Lynne Featherstone’s restraint for not lunging across the chamber and slapping Brown cross-eyed for his disgraceful non-answer to her perfectly reasonable question about Heathrow.

]]> By: passing tory http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39531 passing tory Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:52:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39531 Well, Tony, then the heading of the thread is wrong; either Clegg stood by him or didn't; which is it? Or it is both, depending on which audience you are speaking to :-) ? But to say something is unacceptable while not seemingly to require any action on Mullholland's part to demonstrate that he understood this (i.e. no apology required etc) seems pretty lilly-livered. Well, Tony, then the heading of the thread is wrong; either Clegg stood by him or didn’t; which is it? Or it is both, depending on which audience you are speaking to :-) ? But to say something is unacceptable while not seemingly to require any action on Mullholland’s part to demonstrate that he understood this (i.e. no apology required etc) seems pretty lilly-livered.

]]> By: tony hill http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39523 tony hill Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:22:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39523 I don't quite see how saying that his language was 'unacceptable' is condoning what happened. The exchange reflects badly on the quality of parliamentary debate as a whole: Ivan Lewis was pathetic in his response - what is the point in having a debate at all if you are not prepared to listen to the substantive points being made by other people - but Greg should not have allowed himself to be provoked to that extent, though it's easy for me to sit here and pontificate. I don’t quite see how saying that his language was ‘unacceptable’ is condoning what happened. The exchange reflects badly on the quality of parliamentary debate as a whole: Ivan Lewis was pathetic in his response – what is the point in having a debate at all if you are not prepared to listen to the substantive points being made by other people – but Greg should not have allowed himself to be provoked to that extent, though it’s easy for me to sit here and pontificate.

]]> By: passing tory http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39521 passing tory Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:31:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39521 Well, Clegg goes down in my estimation; Mullholland's language should not be condoned in any way. Mind you, given the general support for Mullholland on this blog I am not too surprised that Clegg reacted the way he did. Go and wash your mouths out with soapy water the lot of you :-) Well, Clegg goes down in my estimation; Mullholland’s language should not be condoned in any way. Mind you, given the general support for Mullholland on this blog I am not too surprised that Clegg reacted the way he did. Go and wash your mouths out with soapy water the lot of you :-)

]]> By: Kacin Alexander http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39512 Kacin Alexander Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:00:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39512 I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future. Kacin Alexander I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.

Kacin Alexander

]]> By: Chris Squire http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39510 Chris Squire Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:39:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39510 Here is the <a href="'http://www.richmond.libdems.org.uk/news/001360/mark_hunter_and_greg_mulholland_on_the_funding_of_hospices.html" rel="nofollow">exchange</a>: ' . . Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): I congratulate the hon. Member for Castle Point (Bob Spink) on securing this important debate and on the passionate and authentic way in which he goes about championing the cause of hospices. . . The only partisan contributions made during the debate were made by the hon. Members for Cheadle (Mark Hunter) and for Leeds, North-West (Greg Mulholland). They turned it into a party political issue. They talked about a real-terms cut in the amount of funding for hospices based on those figures. That was absolutely opportunistic and disgraceful. Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way? Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): Will the hon. Gentleman be writing a blank cheque to the hospice movement? Is he saying that if the Liberal Democrats ever formed the Government, they would meet all the hospice costs at 100 per cent. recovery? Of course not, but that is the impression that Liberal Democrat Members always give when contributing to debates. Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way? Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): We are all fed up with it. I return to the substantive issues. Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way? Ivan Lewis: I will not give way. On regulation costs, I shall consider the question of the consultation that the Healthcare Commission is undertaking- Greg Mulholland : He's an a*******. Ivan Lewis: -and the nature of regulation costs. That was not very parliamentary language, Mr Williams. On the question of- Mark Hunter (Cheadle, Liberal Democrat): Will the Minister give way? Ivan Lewis: No, I will not.' from: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2rfpqc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2rfpqc</a> Mulholland certainly needs to learn some self-control. He should apologise. Here is the http://www.richmond.libdems.org.uk/news/001360/mark_hunter_and_greg_mulholland_on_the_funding_of_hospices.html” rel=”nofollow”>exchange:

‘ . . Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): I congratulate the hon. Member for Castle Point (Bob Spink) on securing this important debate and on the passionate and authentic way in which he goes about championing the cause of hospices. . . The only partisan contributions made during the debate were made by the hon. Members for Cheadle (Mark Hunter) and for Leeds, North-West (Greg Mulholland). They turned it into a party political issue. They talked about a real-terms cut in the amount of funding for hospices based on those figures. That was absolutely opportunistic and disgraceful.
Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way?
Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): Will the hon. Gentleman be writing a blank cheque to the hospice movement? Is he saying that if the Liberal Democrats ever formed the Government, they would meet all the hospice costs at 100 per cent. recovery? Of course not, but that is the impression that Liberal Democrat Members always give when contributing to debates.
Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way?
Ivan Lewis (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department of Health): We are all fed up with it. I return to the substantive issues.
Greg Mulholland : Will the Minister give way?
Ivan Lewis: I will not give way. On regulation costs, I shall consider the question of the consultation that the Healthcare Commission is undertaking-
Greg Mulholland : He’s an a*******.
Ivan Lewis: -and the nature of regulation costs. That was not very parliamentary language, Mr Williams. On the question of-
Mark Hunter (Cheadle, Liberal Democrat): Will the Minister give way?
Ivan Lewis: No, I will not.’

from: http://tinyurl.com/2rfpqc

Mulholland certainly needs to learn some self-control. He should apologise.

]]> By: Gavin Whenman http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39509 Gavin Whenman Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:34:05 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/clegg-stands-by-mulholland-2131.html#comment-39509 I thought he called him an "arsehole"? It's quite hard to pronounce "a**" - do you enunciate the "*"s? I thought he called him an “arsehole”? It’s quite hard to pronounce “a**” – do you enunciate the “*”s?

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