Comments on: Council by-elections: what’s been going on? http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:38:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Geoffrey Payne http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30523 Geoffrey Payne Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:24:00 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30523 As Lib Dems we dislike the centralising tendencies and the hostility towards civil liberties of New Labour, but we also dislike the anti-Europeanism and the lack of committment towards redistribution of wealth and the mixed messages on Green matters of the Tories. Historically the reflexive dislike of the Lib Dems towards the Tories is our memory of Thatcherism, and which even today still has a malign influence on the party. I want the Lib Dems to win seats from both parties and going into coalition with either party is a very unattractive proposition. Of course the arithmetic may force us to consider it, in which case the deal breaker has to be a committment to proportional representation, and a recognition that global warming is the most important issue facing the planet today and that radical policies need to tackle it. This I suggest is what we should be debating rather than a few local by-elections. As Lib Dems we dislike the centralising tendencies and the hostility towards civil liberties of New Labour, but we also dislike the anti-Europeanism and the lack of committment towards redistribution of wealth and the mixed messages on Green matters of the Tories.
Historically the reflexive dislike of the Lib Dems towards the Tories is our memory of Thatcherism, and which even today still has a malign influence on the party.
I want the Lib Dems to win seats from both parties and going into coalition with either party is a very unattractive proposition. Of course the arithmetic may force us to consider it, in which case the deal breaker has to be a committment to proportional representation, and a recognition that global warming is the most important issue facing the planet today and that radical policies need to tackle it.
This I suggest is what we should be debating rather than a few local by-elections.

]]> By: Andrea http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30511 Andrea Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:30:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30511 "I believe that was the Crystal Palace by-election in Lewisham West & Penge." Thanks Will Howells. Now that you mention it, I recall it...there was another one in Lewisham too (Lewisham East constituency but Lewisham East may not be in the top 150 LD targets) “I believe that was the Crystal Palace by-election in Lewisham West & Penge.”

Thanks Will Howells. Now that you mention it, I recall it…there was another one in Lewisham too (Lewisham East constituency but Lewisham East may not be in the top 150 LD targets)

]]> By: MatGB http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30509 MatGB Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:43:45 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30509 It probably won't surprise anyone to know I agree with the analysis Guido links to. The only real surprise is that it's written by Guido. We need to get Brown out, and we need a hung parliament with an increased number of LD MPs--that's going to take some very carfeul targetting, I hope our resources are going in the right direction this time, we're at the likely high-water against the Tories now, it's Labour we need to be unseating. It probably won’t surprise anyone to know I agree with the analysis Guido links to. The only real surprise is that it’s written by Guido.

We need to get Brown out, and we need a hung parliament with an increased number of LD MPs–that’s going to take some very carfeul targetting, I hope our resources are going in the right direction this time, we’re at the likely high-water against the Tories now, it’s Labour we need to be unseating.

]]> By: Will Howells http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30508 Will Howells Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:07:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30508 Andrea: I believe that was the Crystal Palace by-election in Lewisham West & Penge. Andrea: I believe that was the Crystal Palace by-election in Lewisham West & Penge.

]]> By: Geoffrey Payne http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30506 Geoffrey Payne Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:29:46 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30506 I don't see the point in discussing the implications of a few local by-elections. If there is an upsurge in Lib Dem support, there has to be a reason for it, and currently there is none. The Lib Dems need to think of reasons why the electorate should vote for us, and that is what we should be discussing here. I don’t see the point in discussing the implications of a few local by-elections. If there is an upsurge in Lib Dem support, there has to be a reason for it, and currently there is none. The Lib Dems need to think of reasons why the electorate should vote for us, and that is what we should be discussing here.

]]> By: Guido Fawkes http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30491 Guido Fawkes Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:07:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30491 Swapping seats with the Tories won't change the government. http://www.order-order.com/2007/09/time-for-tactical-decisions-from-cchq.html Swapping seats with the Tories won’t change the government.

http://www.order-order.com/2007/09/time-for-tactical-decisions-from-cchq.html

]]> By: Andrea http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30483 Andrea Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:16:32 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/council-by-elections-whats-been-going-on-1406.html#comment-30483 "Lib Dem - Labour battleground seats: an average swing of 4.7% from Labour to Lib Dem in the two contests" One was in Brent Central, where was the second contest? “Lib Dem – Labour battleground seats: an average swing of 4.7% from Labour to Lib Dem in the two contests”

One was in Brent Central, where was the second contest?

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