Comments on: The curious case of Iain Dale and the truncated news release http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Neale Upstone http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47880 Neale Upstone Tue, 06 May 2008 12:48:19 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47880 Well said Susan! Grow up and talk about policy and competence. If there's a criticism of Iain to be made in these comments, then it's not about his comment policy, but about the fact that Mark Pack seems to have done a better job as a journo on this occasion. I must admit that I find it high time that the sniping and inconsistency of all parties' leaflet campaigns were thoroughly scrutinised. If there's a reason why over 70% stay home a lot of the time, then surely part of it is that they read the leaflets and cannot trust any of it to be true! Well said Susan! Grow up and talk about policy and competence.

If there’s a criticism of Iain to be made in these comments, then it’s not about his comment policy, but about the fact that Mark Pack seems to have done a better job as a journo on this occasion.

I must admit that I find it high time that the sniping and inconsistency of all parties’ leaflet campaigns were thoroughly scrutinised. If there’s a reason why over 70% stay home a lot of the time, then surely part of it is that they read the leaflets and cannot trust any of it to be true!

]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47848 Chris Paul Mon, 05 May 2008 21:40:57 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47848 What is the Lib Dem Voice position on Iain Dale calling for just about everyone to be sacked from City Hall? And how will Boris settle all the wrongful dismissal claims? What is the Lib Dem Voice position on Iain Dale calling for just about everyone to be sacked from City Hall?

And how will Boris settle all the wrongful dismissal claims?

]]> By: asquith http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47843 asquith Mon, 05 May 2008 19:15:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47843 If you don't like what is posted here, send something in yourself and see if you can get it published! If you don’t like what is posted here, send something in yourself and see if you can get it published!

]]> By: Chris Jenkinson http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47841 Chris Jenkinson Mon, 05 May 2008 19:02:22 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47841 Very edifying. Can we have some more articles about the Liberal Democrats and not Tory bloggers? Very edifying.

Can we have some more articles about the Liberal Democrats and not Tory bloggers?

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47835 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 18:06:01 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47835 'No comment' it is, then. ‘No comment’ it is, then.

]]> By: Iain Dale http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47834 Iain Dale Mon, 05 May 2008 18:03:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47834 Take it any way you want, cobbah, you normally do. Take it any way you want, cobbah, you normally do.

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47831 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 17:50:53 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47831 How charming.... projection with a dash of xenophobia. Shall I take that as a 'no comment', then? How charming…. projection with a dash of xenophobia.

Shall I take that as a ‘no comment’, then?

]]> By: Iain Dale http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47824 Iain Dale Mon, 05 May 2008 17:06:09 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47824 What are you on about now? Too many of the tinnies again? What are you on about now? Too many of the tinnies again?

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47823 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 17:04:17 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47823 Hey, Iain and his pals brought swords to the blogging party... I'm just showing them that they have two edges. Iain? When you're ready... Hey, Iain and his pals brought swords to the blogging party… I’m just showing them that they have two edges.

Iain? When you’re ready…

]]> By: Susan Gaszczak http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47821 Susan Gaszczak Mon, 05 May 2008 16:41:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47821 Enough! And we wonder why between 30 and 60% of the population stay home on polling day. Fight about policy, tell your story, lets grow up and leave this alone! Enough! And we wonder why between 30 and 60% of the population stay home on polling day. Fight about policy, tell your story, lets grow up and leave this alone!

]]> By: asquith http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47818 asquith Mon, 05 May 2008 16:31:57 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47818 I think Iain Dale and a few other Tories would be all right if you met them in person. I can imagine some bloggers being really obnoxious, but not him. I think Iain Dale and a few other Tories would be all right if you met them in person. I can imagine some bloggers being really obnoxious, but not him.

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47815 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 15:52:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47815 Iain, the slightest criticism gets your back up. You constantly insult people who don't agree with you and - at the same time - scream "Insult!" if you are ever proved to be wrong/lying. Friendly? Well, maybe when you're begging for links, but otherwise... Now, if it's not too much trouble, have you got anything to say about Paul Staines ('Guido Fawkes') and his drink driving conviction and/or the actions of those who got shed-faced alongside him and then let him get behind the wheel? Iain, the slightest criticism gets your back up. You constantly insult people who don’t agree with you and – at the same time – scream “Insult!” if you are ever proved to be wrong/lying. Friendly? Well, maybe when you’re begging for links, but otherwise…

Now, if it’s not too much trouble, have you got anything to say about Paul Staines (‘Guido Fawkes’) and his drink driving conviction and/or the actions of those who got shed-faced alongside him and then let him get behind the wheel?

]]> By: Iain Dale http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47814 Iain Dale Mon, 05 May 2008 15:42:41 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47814 Jennie, I may be a big one, but I am also a very friendly one. :) Anyway I am smaller than I was, having lost a stone and a half. Jennie, I may be a big one, but I am also a very friendly one. :)

Anyway I am smaller than I was, having lost a stone and a half.

]]> By: Jennie http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47813 Jennie Mon, 05 May 2008 15:41:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47813 Asquith: don't feed the troll is a maxim I try to live by, and Iain Dale is a very big troll under the rather small bridge of the blogosphere. I'm not going to validate him by giving him my attention, no matter how lonely you feel. Sorry. If for no other reason than that life is too short. Asquith: don’t feed the troll is a maxim I try to live by, and Iain Dale is a very big troll under the rather small bridge of the blogosphere. I’m not going to validate him by giving him my attention, no matter how lonely you feel.

Sorry.

If for no other reason than that life is too short.

]]> By: asquith http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47811 asquith Mon, 05 May 2008 15:35:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47811 Jennie, re: your statement that: "Iain reaches his position of “top Tory blogger” because so many people read his blog, and I suspect that lots of those readers are reading him purely to disagree with him." I read and comment, and it does feel very lonely sometimes. Perhaps you and other progressives could help me battle the Verities and Newmanias of the blogosphere :) Jennie, re: your statement that:

“Iain reaches his position of “top Tory blogger” because so many people read his blog, and I suspect that lots of those readers are reading him purely to disagree with him.”

I read and comment, and it does feel very lonely sometimes. Perhaps you and other progressives could help me battle the Verities and Newmanias of the blogosphere :)

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47806 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 12:58:45 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47806 Pity. There's a post on the subject of extreme pornography. I note you've taken an interest. Pity. There’s a post on the subject of extreme pornography. I note you’ve taken an interest.

]]> By: Jennie http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47805 Jennie Mon, 05 May 2008 12:51:26 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47805 Tim: frankly, I can't be arsed. Tim: frankly, I can’t be arsed.

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47804 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 12:40:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47804 Jennie: Please check recent posts. Exposing Dale and his gang of right wing thugs is no longer a major project. (Note - This doesn't mean that Iain gets the free ride he grants to members of his little gang.) Jennie: Please check recent posts. Exposing Dale and his gang of right wing thugs is no longer a major project.

(Note – This doesn’t mean that Iain gets the free ride he grants to members of his little gang.)

]]> By: Jennie http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47803 Jennie Mon, 05 May 2008 12:29:55 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47803 Tim, I admire your tenacity, but... I don't read Iain's blog. I don't want to read Iain's blog. I think he is a relentless self-publicist and a political irritant, convinced of his own rightness. The reason I don't read YOUR blog is that you are forever banging on about someone I have no interest in whatsoever. Iain reaches his position of "top Tory blogger" because so many people read his blog, and I suspect that lots of those readers are reading him purely to disagree with him. Why not, instead, just IGNORE him? Stop giving him the oxygen of publicity and his influence will wane. Tim, I admire your tenacity, but… I don’t read Iain’s blog. I don’t want to read Iain’s blog. I think he is a relentless self-publicist and a political irritant, convinced of his own rightness. The reason I don’t read YOUR blog is that you are forever banging on about someone I have no interest in whatsoever.

Iain reaches his position of “top Tory blogger” because so many people read his blog, and I suspect that lots of those readers are reading him purely to disagree with him. Why not, instead, just IGNORE him? Stop giving him the oxygen of publicity and his influence will wane.

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.libdemvoice.org/edward-timpson-and-iain-dale-2644.html#comment-47801 Tim Ireland Mon, 05 May 2008 12:21:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2644#comment-47801 If you look up ^^^^^ you will notice that the topic of this post is Iain's habit of not mentioning this or that (though based on his own unsubstantiated claim he appears to be in the clear this time) so I stand by the aside mention as it's relevant on the basis that Iain most likely knew about Paul's drink-driving adventure long before it made the newspapers (see: Greer) and yet saw fit not to mention it. At all. If it had happened to anyone in politics/media from 'the other side', Dale would have been screaming "EXCLUSIVE!" even before Staines' hangover had kicked in. It's also relevant in terms of a topic that has come up during this thread. Some of my readers have reported that Iain is censoring mentions of it under comments on his site (as is 'Guido' at his own, obviously). If you look up ^^^^^ you will notice that the topic of this post is Iain’s habit of not mentioning this or that (though based on his own unsubstantiated claim he appears to be in the clear this time) so I stand by the aside mention as it’s relevant on the basis that Iain most likely knew about Paul’s drink-driving adventure long before it made the newspapers (see: Greer) and yet saw fit not to mention it. At all.

If it had happened to anyone in politics/media from ‘the other side’, Dale would have been screaming “EXCLUSIVE!” even before Staines’ hangover had kicked in.

It’s also relevant in terms of a topic that has come up during this thread. Some of my readers have reported that Iain is censoring mentions of it under comments on his site (as is ‘Guido’ at his own, obviously).

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