Comments on: Electoral Reform Bill must give voters real choice – Howarth http://www.libdemvoice.org/electoral-reform-bill-must-give-voters-real-choice-howarth-17860.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Niklas Smith http://www.libdemvoice.org/electoral-reform-bill-must-give-voters-real-choice-howarth-17860.html#comment-107011 Niklas Smith Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:48:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17860#comment-107011 Excellent amendments from David Howarth, as usual. Let's just hope they get passed... Excellent amendments from David Howarth, as usual. Let’s just hope they get passed…

]]> By: David http://www.libdemvoice.org/electoral-reform-bill-must-give-voters-real-choice-howarth-17860.html#comment-106944 David Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:27:08 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17860#comment-106944 This is part of what I posted on here today, but I feel this is the best posting for it. So why are the Lib Dems only on 20% in the polls against Labours 30%? I think it is only because people do not think the Lib Dems can win the Election, and most go for one of the main parties. The only answer is PR, and I think voters could leave in droves from both Labour and the Tory parties. Then and only then will you see the Lib Dems overtake Labour, and come very close to the Tory party, this would be a very good place to start from. So stuff Brown on his vote this week, and push him into PR or nothing. It was interesting what Clegg said on this yesterday. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/clegg-hints-tories-may-make-better-coalition-partner-1891763.html “”I’ve looked very carefully at my predecessors,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “Look at how Ming got led up the garden path. Look at the way Paddy was left at the altar. I’ve spoken to people. Paddy is vociferous about it. He says, ‘Just don’t go anywhere near them again. It might have made sense then, but don’t [do it].’” He added: “It was a conspiracy of Blair’s mendacity and Brown’s obduracy. This is part of what I posted on here today, but I feel this is the best posting for it.

So why are the Lib Dems only on 20% in the polls against Labours 30%?
I think it is only because people do not think the Lib Dems can win the Election, and most go for one of the main parties.
The only answer is PR, and I think voters could leave in droves from both Labour and the Tory parties.
Then and only then will you see the Lib Dems overtake Labour, and come very close to the Tory party, this would be a very good place to start from.

So stuff Brown on his vote this week, and push him into PR or nothing.

It was interesting what Clegg said on this yesterday.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/clegg-hints-tories-may-make-better-coalition-partner-1891763.html

“”I’ve looked very carefully at my predecessors,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “Look at how Ming got led up the garden path. Look at the way Paddy was left at the altar. I’ve spoken to people. Paddy is vociferous about it. He says, ‘Just don’t go anywhere near them again. It might have made sense then, but don’t [do it].’” He added: “It was a conspiracy of Blair’s mendacity and Brown’s obduracy.

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