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	<title>Comments on: Enough is enough</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Entee</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/enough-is-enough-9814.html#comment-76236</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Entee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably the best blog I have read here.

Superbly put and a shocking indictment of our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably the best blog I have read here.</p>
<p>Superbly put and a shocking indictment of our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/enough-is-enough-9814.html#comment-75630</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to the British Library you can find out about the work of (the frankly brilliantly named) King Hywel the Good :-)
http://tinyurl.com/8gwsj9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the British Library you can find out about the work of (the frankly brilliantly named) King Hywel the Good <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/8gwsj9" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/8gwsj9</a></p>
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		<title>By: john ward</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/enough-is-enough-9814.html#comment-75622</link>
		<dc:creator>john ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Alex: there are no bigger issues we face than defence of our Labour-vandalised liberties, and a better electoral system to clear out the Establishment who are quite happy to go along with this £13 billion bonanza about to be given to GCHQ.
Would I trust my liberties to the Campbells and Blairs and Mandelsons and Smiths whose mixture of naivety and dissembling is mind-boggling? No, not for a minute.

We are the most overheard, overidden, photographed, recorded, detained and watched nation in Europe - and ironically, the most ignored by its Government.

I am increasingly minded to get involved in peaceful civil disobedience, and exerting online pressure until the Westminster bubble finally bursts. Old as we are, there are many sixty-somethings who simply won&#039;t pay higher council taxes because we DON&#039;T have the money. 

In the end, the buggers can&#039;t put everyone in jail...thanks to falling crime rates, there isn&#039;t any room.
JW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Alex: there are no bigger issues we face than defence of our Labour-vandalised liberties, and a better electoral system to clear out the Establishment who are quite happy to go along with this £13 billion bonanza about to be given to GCHQ.<br />
Would I trust my liberties to the Campbells and Blairs and Mandelsons and Smiths whose mixture of naivety and dissembling is mind-boggling? No, not for a minute.</p>
<p>We are the most overheard, overidden, photographed, recorded, detained and watched nation in Europe &#8211; and ironically, the most ignored by its Government.</p>
<p>I am increasingly minded to get involved in peaceful civil disobedience, and exerting online pressure until the Westminster bubble finally bursts. Old as we are, there are many sixty-somethings who simply won&#8217;t pay higher council taxes because we DON&#8217;T have the money. </p>
<p>In the end, the buggers can&#8217;t put everyone in jail&#8230;thanks to falling crime rates, there isn&#8217;t any room.<br />
JW</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Page</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/enough-is-enough-9814.html#comment-75602</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see every Lib Dem-run council in England pass NO2ID&#039;s motion opposing the database state - it&#039;s providing actual protection to people. You can see the motion text at http://www.no2id.net/resources/motions/

For all the party&#039;s opposition to the Database State and National Identity Scheme in Westminster, I don&#039;t see a lot of local parties actually doing anything about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see every Lib Dem-run council in England pass NO2ID&#8217;s motion opposing the database state &#8211; it&#8217;s providing actual protection to people. You can see the motion text at <a href="http://www.no2id.net/resources/motions/" rel="nofollow">http://www.no2id.net/resources/motions/</a></p>
<p>For all the party&#8217;s opposition to the Database State and National Identity Scheme in Westminster, I don&#8217;t see a lot of local parties actually doing anything about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard H</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/enough-is-enough-9814.html#comment-75546</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post. 

On the local groups front, No2ID have some active local chapters or you could start one. A lightly-advertised inaugural meeting in Oxford drew a huge number of people, and has been going strong since.

Liberty also recently set up a local university student society - something other unis may like to start.

Also one other thought for Lib Dem activists: why not have a local Focus-style leaflet about civil liberties issues (featuring Labour&#039;s wrongs and Lib Dem solutions) to hand out at civil liberties events in your area? I&#039;m sure a lot of people who are concerned about these issues would be natural recruits as members or activists themselves, if someone highlights our stance and asks them to help sell it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post. </p>
<p>On the local groups front, No2ID have some active local chapters or you could start one. A lightly-advertised inaugural meeting in Oxford drew a huge number of people, and has been going strong since.</p>
<p>Liberty also recently set up a local university student society &#8211; something other unis may like to start.</p>
<p>Also one other thought for Lib Dem activists: why not have a local Focus-style leaflet about civil liberties issues (featuring Labour&#8217;s wrongs and Lib Dem solutions) to hand out at civil liberties events in your area? I&#8217;m sure a lot of people who are concerned about these issues would be natural recruits as members or activists themselves, if someone highlights our stance and asks them to help sell it.</p>
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