Comments on: UPDATED: Facebook disables Tom Brake’s account http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:13:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Biodiesel http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94510 Biodiesel Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:33:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94510 I had the same problem not so long ago. Too much site traffic, apparently. It took about two weeks to sort out. No good at election time! I had the same problem not so long ago. Too much site traffic, apparently. It took about two weeks to sort out. No good at election time!

]]> By: Neale Upstone http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94467 Neale Upstone Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:27:38 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94467 @Tony. "has it coming to them?" I disagree. It's about the same argument as saying that someone who crossed the road and got hit by a speeding motorist running a red light "had it coming to them" because we know that some people do that. The point is that it's a tool with significant benefits, and if used wisely, can make the job of representing constituents a whole lot easier. It's certainly not something to rely on, or to assume is secure, but it's not like people are daft enough to put their name address and home phone number on a FB Wall, is it? (okay there might be one or two given the education system of the day). @Tony. “has it coming to them?”

I disagree. It’s about the same argument as saying that someone who crossed the road and got hit by a speeding motorist running a red light “had it coming to them” because we know that some people do that.

The point is that it’s a tool with significant benefits, and if used wisely, can make the job of representing constituents a whole lot easier.

It’s certainly not something to rely on, or to assume is secure, but it’s not like people are daft enough to put their name address and home phone number on a FB Wall, is it? (okay there might be one or two given the education system of the day).

]]> By: Tony Greaves http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94464 Tony Greaves Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:49:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94464 All it shows is how the world is increasingly in the hands of unelected, unaccountable, unregulated, uncontrollable and undemocratic organisations and persons. But I suppose anyone who uses Facebook for political campaigning has it coming to them. Tony Greaves All it shows is how the world is increasingly in the hands of unelected, unaccountable, unregulated, uncontrollable and undemocratic organisations and persons.

But I suppose anyone who uses Facebook for political campaigning has it coming to them.

Tony Greaves

]]> By: David Wright http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94453 David Wright Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:43:35 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94453 Yes, Niklas, of course they should ... except for one little problem. Not many constituents have PGP or SMIME keys, or would know what to do if they did. Granted HTTPS forms are a possible solution, but using Facebook for initial contact and/or non-confidential casework is just much more natural to many people. Yes, Niklas, of course they should … except for one little problem. Not many constituents have PGP or SMIME keys, or would know what to do if they did.

Granted HTTPS forms are a possible solution, but using Facebook for initial contact and/or non-confidential casework is just much more natural to many people.

]]> By: Niklas Smith http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94436 Niklas Smith Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:01:41 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94436 Re. Obnoxio and MatGB: MPs should be using encrypted e-mail and secure contact forms for casework, especially since we now know that journalists as well as the state could be snooping. Re. Obnoxio and MatGB: MPs should be using encrypted e-mail and secure contact forms for casework, especially since we now know that journalists as well as the state could be snooping.

]]> By: Neil http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94435 Neil Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:54:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94435 Andrew, It depends on how their system is set up. As it disabled the account through high usage, there could well be a time limit on reactivation to allow for an investigation. Andrew, It depends on how their system is set up. As it disabled the account through high usage, there could well be a time limit on reactivation to allow for an investigation.

]]> By: Andrew Suffield http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94433 Andrew Suffield Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:13:13 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94433 "working hard to get Tom’s account back up"? To get it back up, they have to flip a bit in the database from "disabled" to "enabled". It's not hard. Sounds like an excuse to me. “working hard to get Tom’s account back up”? To get it back up, they have to flip a bit in the database from “disabled” to “enabled”. It’s not hard.

Sounds like an excuse to me.

]]> By: Cathy http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94430 Cathy Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:04:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94430 I check Tom's facebook on an almost daily basis as its a great way to find out what work is being done in the local area. It is an important resource for people in Carshalton and Wallington especially young people who would not otherwise have a connection to local politics. I hope its back asap. I check Tom’s facebook on an almost daily basis as its a great way to find out what work is being done in the local area. It is an important resource for people in Carshalton and Wallington especially young people who would not otherwise have a connection to local politics. I hope its back asap.

]]> By: Richard Allan http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94426 Richard Allan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:31:13 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94426 I understand that this does happen from time to time generally because automated security controls are triggered by activity on an account. I have raised Tom's case with the user account management team at Facebook and hope that they will be able to resolve the situation and reactivate the account as soon as possible. Richard Allan Director of Policy EU Facebook I understand that this does happen from time to time generally because automated security controls are triggered by activity on an account. I have raised Tom’s case with the user account management team at Facebook and hope that they will be able to resolve the situation and reactivate the account as soon as possible.

Richard Allan
Director of Policy EU
Facebook

]]> By: Keith Elliott http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94423 Keith Elliott Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:09:59 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94423 Facebook are notoriously difficult to communicate with. There is no email address and certainly no contact number to call. I guess their free market line is that if you're unhappy with their service use another provider! Not good. Facebook are notoriously difficult to communicate with. There is no email address and certainly no contact number to call.

I guess their free market line is that if you’re unhappy with their service use another provider!

Not good.

]]> By: Andy H http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94419 Andy H Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:30:57 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94419 I've sent a message protesting about this to facebook's International Vice-President, Chamath Palihapitiya, via his facebook account http://www.facebook.com/chamath?hiq=chamath,palihapitiya Others may want to do the same. I’ve sent a message protesting about this to facebook’s International Vice-President, Chamath Palihapitiya, via his facebook account
http://www.facebook.com/chamath?hiq=chamath,palihapitiya

Others may want to do the same.

]]> By: MatGB http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94418 MatGB Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:22:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94418 Obnoxio, while the points about being insecure are correct, it's no less secure than a typical web based email service. And they don't "retain the rights", they need a licence from users in order to do anything with the content--you might want to read what the lawyers said about their terms of service, not what scaremongerers who should know better sai when they were last revised, US law isn't that clear, but a perpetual licence is a fairly common TOS clause, services without one are probably going to get in trouble some day. Obnoxio, while the points about being insecure are correct, it’s no less secure than a typical web based email service.

And they don’t “retain the rights”, they need a licence from users in order to do anything with the content–you might want to read what the lawyers said about their terms of service, not what scaremongerers who should know better sai when they were last revised, US law isn’t that clear, but a perpetual licence is a fairly common TOS clause, services without one are probably going to get in trouble some day.

]]> By: Obnoxio The Clown http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94417 Obnoxio The Clown Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:03:43 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94417 "Much of my casework now comes through Facebook" Well, he's an idiot then, as are his constituents. Why let your casework come through an insecure, commercial website who retain the rights to do pretty anything they like with what you put up? “Much of my casework now comes through Facebook”

Well, he’s an idiot then, as are his constituents. Why let your casework come through an insecure, commercial website who retain the rights to do pretty anything they like with what you put up?

]]> By: Bernard Salmon http://www.libdemvoice.org/facebook-disables-tom-brakes-account-15607.html#comment-94415 Bernard Salmon Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:39:18 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=15607#comment-94415 Does Facebook have something against Lib Dem MPs? They did the same thing to Steve Webb. Does Facebook have something against Lib Dem MPs? They did the same thing to Steve Webb.

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