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		<title>By: ELEZIONI UK: SPIN DOCTOR DAY &#124; PR ITALY</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-126387</link>
		<dc:creator>ELEZIONI UK: SPIN DOCTOR DAY &#124; PR ITALY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ritorno al partito come responsabile comunicazione durante le elezioni.   A dicembre risale la sua campagna &#8220;contro i pregiudizi dei media&#8221;: stampa e BBC, a suo avviso, ossessionate dal presentare la campagna elettorale come una guerra fra [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ritorno al partito come responsabile comunicazione durante le elezioni.   A dicembre risale la sua campagna &#8220;contro i pregiudizi dei media&#8221;: stampa e BBC, a suo avviso, ossessionate dal presentare la campagna elettorale come una guerra fra [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tories cry &#8220;foul&#8221; at Lib Dems&#8217; fair hearing</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-112884</link>
		<dc:creator>Tories cry &#8220;foul&#8221; at Lib Dems&#8217; fair hearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;ve covered before the familiar problem of media bias against the Liberal Democrats, and explained how you can help. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;ve covered before the familiar problem of media bias against the Liberal Democrats, and explained how you can help. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Playing fair with Question Time #bbcqt &#8211; Freedom Central</title>
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		<dc:creator>Playing fair with Question Time #bbcqt &#8211; Freedom Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the year turned, Jonny Oates the Lib Dems Comms guru penned a piece for Lib Dem Voice. Asking members of the Lib Dems to help challenge media bias. How very pertinent. The BBC have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the year turned, Jonny Oates the Lib Dems Comms guru penned a piece for Lib Dem Voice. Asking members of the Lib Dems to help challenge media bias. How very pertinent. The BBC have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed by BBC Question Time panel selection? Then you know what to do.</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-106773</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoyed by BBC Question Time panel selection? Then you know what to do.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or the Internet. Jonny Oates, the Lib Dems&#8217; Director of Communications, has already outlined here on LDV what Lib Dems need to do when blatant media bias rears its head. So don&#8217;t get angry, get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or the Internet. Jonny Oates, the Lib Dems&#8217; Director of Communications, has already outlined here on LDV what Lib Dems need to do when blatant media bias rears its head. So don&#8217;t get angry, get [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104965</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps your milkman could replace George Porge Osborne then Bert? I doubt he would see a financial crisis brewing if he lived in the brewery....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps your milkman could replace George Porge Osborne then Bert? I doubt he would see a financial crisis brewing if he lived in the brewery&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem pretty upset Bert. 

Do you need a hug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem pretty upset Bert. </p>
<p>Do you need a hug?</p>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104806</link>
		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; the broadcast media had provided us with a fair volume of coverage and the public had liked what they saw.&quot;

Simply do not believe this. When will the limp dims stop blaming a lack of media coverage for their lack of success? They do not succeed because of what they are, not because of the bbc, or sky, etc.

Why would the public want to vote for a party to the left of Labour, with a pompous, humourless oaf as their leader? Oh, and a ridiculous died-in-the-wool socialist as &quot;shadow chancellor&quot;. My milkman could have preidcted a housing bubble and credit crash. Economic guru my arse.

Latest you gov poll - lib dems on SIXTEEN PER CENT. equates to about 30 seats at an election.  More than what they deserve.

The public don&#039;t vote for limp dim because they don&#039;t like them. It really is as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the broadcast media had provided us with a fair volume of coverage and the public had liked what they saw.&#8221;</p>
<p>Simply do not believe this. When will the limp dims stop blaming a lack of media coverage for their lack of success? They do not succeed because of what they are, not because of the bbc, or sky, etc.</p>
<p>Why would the public want to vote for a party to the left of Labour, with a pompous, humourless oaf as their leader? Oh, and a ridiculous died-in-the-wool socialist as &#8220;shadow chancellor&#8221;. My milkman could have preidcted a housing bubble and credit crash. Economic guru my arse.</p>
<p>Latest you gov poll &#8211; lib dems on SIXTEEN PER CENT. equates to about 30 seats at an election.  More than what they deserve.</p>
<p>The public don&#8217;t vote for limp dim because they don&#8217;t like them. It really is as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: LibCync</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104753</link>
		<dc:creator>LibCync</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to put an https:// in front of www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/ for the link to work.</description>
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		<title>By: Huw Dawson</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104647</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not hypocritical to point out the lack of media coverage when it usually leaves us well out of it, because you take the statement without context or quantification. We&#039;re complaining about a media that cannot up keep proportional coverage in regards to the parties in this country. We&#039;re not somehow arguing against the SNP, Plaid and the other parties getting mentions when it is relevant, but the fact of the matter is that when you control 60-odd seats in Parliament and are the second largest party in local areas with hundreds and hundreds of councillors country-wide it is madness that you&#039;re squeezed out of supposedly &quot;fair and unbiased&quot; reporting establisments like the BBC.

 If BBC Scotland of BBC Cymru suddenly stopped mentioning the SNP or Plaid respectively we would have a problem as well. 

 I personally don&#039;t advocate swarming the BBC with complaints, because I think a few good viral videos would win us far more support than the media ever would. A catchy song, a good flash animation to follow on with it, release it onto the net and let it soak through. Bonus points if the BBC then air it as part of their &quot;impartial&quot; reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not hypocritical to point out the lack of media coverage when it usually leaves us well out of it, because you take the statement without context or quantification. We&#8217;re complaining about a media that cannot up keep proportional coverage in regards to the parties in this country. We&#8217;re not somehow arguing against the SNP, Plaid and the other parties getting mentions when it is relevant, but the fact of the matter is that when you control 60-odd seats in Parliament and are the second largest party in local areas with hundreds and hundreds of councillors country-wide it is madness that you&#8217;re squeezed out of supposedly &#8220;fair and unbiased&#8221; reporting establisments like the BBC.</p>
<p> If BBC Scotland of BBC Cymru suddenly stopped mentioning the SNP or Plaid respectively we would have a problem as well. </p>
<p> I personally don&#8217;t advocate swarming the BBC with complaints, because I think a few good viral videos would win us far more support than the media ever would. A catchy song, a good flash animation to follow on with it, release it onto the net and let it soak through. Bonus points if the BBC then air it as part of their &#8220;impartial&#8221; reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert C</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104471</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also the vehemence of the response. We need to be much stronger in our ripostes to the Conservatives and the kind of rubbish they come up with, like their message about there being few differences between them and us. No use being polite. We need to toughen up what we are saying.

We need to start putting our message out, daily if necessary on our website. I have just had a look and there is nothing there to rebut the kind of tripe the Conservatives are putting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also the vehemence of the response. We need to be much stronger in our ripostes to the Conservatives and the kind of rubbish they come up with, like their message about there being few differences between them and us. No use being polite. We need to toughen up what we are saying.</p>
<p>We need to start putting our message out, daily if necessary on our website. I have just had a look and there is nothing there to rebut the kind of tripe the Conservatives are putting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasch</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t complaints that will solve the problem. You guys need to sort out your rapid-response capabilities. 
I&#039;m still not seeing a LibDem response the Cameron&#039;s speech in Oxford? 
Until we can prove we are capable of responding to the fast-changing nature of the political news cycles and movements within the other parties (like the US democrats did in 2006 with Rahmbo heading the DCCC), the media won&#039;t take us as seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t complaints that will solve the problem. You guys need to sort out your rapid-response capabilities.<br />
I&#8217;m still not seeing a LibDem response the Cameron&#8217;s speech in Oxford?<br />
Until we can prove we are capable of responding to the fast-changing nature of the political news cycles and movements within the other parties (like the US democrats did in 2006 with Rahmbo heading the DCCC), the media won&#8217;t take us as seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104408</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cassandrina
Don&#039;t let the door catch you on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cassandrina<br />
Don&#8217;t let the door catch you on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandrina</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104399</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to complain to the bbc on political bias I would have to complain at least 5 times per day on radio 4 alone.
As with Crewegwyn, you only get a bbc asinine reply computer generated reply to a complaint with a human name such as John or Andrew. 
No records of complaints are made or acknowleged by the bbc and put to the public - perhaps your compaign on bias should be better targeted to addressing this issue?

As for the LibDems all I hear from them on radio 4 is them knocking the Tories, UKIP, SNP, and of course the usual bullying of the BNP that all 3 major parties are frightened of.
As an apolitical person I find almost nothing to admire in any of the 3 major parties, but if the LibDems teamed up with this incompetent government then I would seriously have to consider emigration along with 10&#039;s of thousands of others and leave the country to venal politicians and immigrants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to complain to the bbc on political bias I would have to complain at least 5 times per day on radio 4 alone.<br />
As with Crewegwyn, you only get a bbc asinine reply computer generated reply to a complaint with a human name such as John or Andrew.<br />
No records of complaints are made or acknowleged by the bbc and put to the public &#8211; perhaps your compaign on bias should be better targeted to addressing this issue?</p>
<p>As for the LibDems all I hear from them on radio 4 is them knocking the Tories, UKIP, SNP, and of course the usual bullying of the BNP that all 3 major parties are frightened of.<br />
As an apolitical person I find almost nothing to admire in any of the 3 major parties, but if the LibDems teamed up with this incompetent government then I would seriously have to consider emigration along with 10&#8242;s of thousands of others and leave the country to venal politicians and immigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily View 2&#215;2: 31 December 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily View 2&#215;2: 31 December 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t forget Lib Dem Voice is still seeking your nominations for Liberal Voice 2009. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t forget Lib Dem Voice is still seeking your nominations for Liberal Voice 2009. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: crewegwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104389</link>
		<dc:creator>crewegwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried complaining to the BBC twice recently; both on political issues.

After a fair wait you get a reply which completely misses the point or denies that the incident never happened.

And you cannot respond directly - you have to submit a new complaint, and start from scratch.

Not easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried complaining to the BBC twice recently; both on political issues.</p>
<p>After a fair wait you get a reply which completely misses the point or denies that the incident never happened.</p>
<p>And you cannot respond directly &#8211; you have to submit a new complaint, and start from scratch.</p>
<p>Not easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Iainm</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104381</link>
		<dc:creator>Iainm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward;
You can&#039;t account for it. With our current hodge-podge of constitutional settlements there is no format that would be both workable and fair, which is why the debates shouldn&#039;t be held at all.

Honestly, watching the Lib Dems bleat about unfairness in the media would be comical if it weren&#039;t so offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward;<br />
You can&#8217;t account for it. With our current hodge-podge of constitutional settlements there is no format that would be both workable and fair, which is why the debates shouldn&#8217;t be held at all.</p>
<p>Honestly, watching the Lib Dems bleat about unfairness in the media would be comical if it weren&#8217;t so offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iainm, the next biggest party in Great Britain has fewer than 1% of the seats. How do you fairly account for this in a national debate? Specifically regional debates are a different issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iainm, the next biggest party in Great Britain has fewer than 1% of the seats. How do you fairly account for this in a national debate? Specifically regional debates are a different issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Iainm</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/fighting-media-bias-you-can-help-us-17281.html#comment-104366</link>
		<dc:creator>Iainm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite clear from the Lib Dem&#039;s euphoric enthusiasm for the proposed leader&#039;s debates that they only have a problem with unfairness when they themselves don&#039;t benefit from it.

Pure hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite clear from the Lib Dem&#8217;s euphoric enthusiasm for the proposed leader&#8217;s debates that they only have a problem with unfairness when they themselves don&#8217;t benefit from it.</p>
<p>Pure hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want more seats? Gain more media coverage. Not so simples.</description>
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		<title>By: John Booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want more media coverage? Win more seats. Simples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want more media coverage? Win more seats. Simples.</p>
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