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	<title>Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: Grant Shapps says “realistically we&#8217;re not going to win” in Ealing</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-24326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record, &#039;Chris&#039; never got back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, &#8216;Chris&#8217; never got back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22732</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: Would you mind awfully repeating that denial by email? Just so I can know it&#039;s really Chris Palmer who delivered it. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Would you mind awfully repeating that denial by email? Just so I can know it&#8217;s really Chris Palmer who delivered it. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22605</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has now made the Times:

&quot;Not a good day for Grant Shapps, MP (Welwyn Hatfield, C). Shapps, presently helping the Tory effort in the Ealing Southall by-election, appeared to have logged on to the Liberal Democrats’ local YouTube page and pretended to be one of them, commiserating on their impending defeat, and seemingly forgetting that he was logged in under his own usual YouTube account, under the login name “GrantShapps”. Following much ridicule, Conservative Central Office now insists that Shapps was innocent and his account was hacked. By whom? Why? &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has now made the Times:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not a good day for Grant Shapps, MP (Welwyn Hatfield, C). Shapps, presently helping the Tory effort in the Ealing Southall by-election, appeared to have logged on to the Liberal Democrats’ local YouTube page and pretended to be one of them, commiserating on their impending defeat, and seemingly forgetting that he was logged in under his own usual YouTube account, under the login name “GrantShapps”. Following much ridicule, Conservative Central Office now insists that Shapps was innocent and his account was hacked. By whom? Why? &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22602</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More damaging than pretending to be a Lib Dem using your own name?

Perhaps this phantom also set up the lottery for poster displayers that old Iain Dale was on abaht?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More damaging than pretending to be a Lib Dem using your own name?</p>
<p>Perhaps this phantom also set up the lottery for poster displayers that old Iain Dale was on abaht?</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22597</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone hacked Grant Shapps YouYube account they must have been politically motivated to have done this.

They weren&#039;t very imaginative though - could have done some things much more damaging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone hacked Grant Shapps YouYube account they must have been politically motivated to have done this.</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t very imaginative though &#8211; could have done some things much more damaging!</p>
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		<title>By: Ealing Warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22582</link>
		<dc:creator>Ealing Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for amusement.

An anagram of Grant Shapps is:

PR Shag pants</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for amusement.</p>
<p>An anagram of Grant Shapps is:</p>
<p>PR Shag pants</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22580</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to spoil your fun Tim, but the guy in the video is not me - though he does look very similar to myself which worries me slightly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to spoil your fun Tim, but the guy in the video is not me &#8211; though he does look very similar to myself which worries me slightly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22558</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Iain Dale the well-known political &#039;commentator&#039; has confirmed the denial and sides with Shapps - so I guess we at least know who we *can&#039;t* trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Iain Dale the well-known political &#8216;commentator&#8217; has confirmed the denial and sides with Shapps &#8211; so I guess we at least know who we *can&#8217;t* trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22553</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As James Graham has noted on Bloggerheads, how do we know this email really came from Grant Shapps? What if &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; account was compromised too? How can we ever be sure now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As James Graham has noted on Bloggerheads, how do we know this email really came from Grant Shapps? What if <b>that</b> account was compromised too? How can we ever be sure now?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22552</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello to the Tory sock-puppet known as &#039;GA&#039;.

If Grant could prove someone from one of the opposing parties was behind this, he would be in a far better position on all fronts... and it would take him but a minute to put the wheels in motion.

Besides, Google has close, if indirect, ties with the Tory Party... I&#039;m sure their YT arm could spare a few minutes for the Vice-Chairman.

(PS - Please cover your mouth when you yawn.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello to the Tory sock-puppet known as &#8216;GA&#8217;.</p>
<p>If Grant could prove someone from one of the opposing parties was behind this, he would be in a far better position on all fronts&#8230; and it would take him but a minute to put the wheels in motion.</p>
<p>Besides, Google has close, if indirect, ties with the Tory Party&#8230; I&#8217;m sure their YT arm could spare a few minutes for the Vice-Chairman.</p>
<p>(PS &#8211; Please cover your mouth when you yawn.)</p>
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		<title>By: GA</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22549</link>
		<dc:creator>GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What reason might he have not to chase up the person?


Err, a by-election to win perhaps!

A thousand other more important jobs to do!


Plus do you really think YouTube are going to be bothered to start investigating something without police involvement? And do you think the police are going to care!

YAWN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What reason might he have not to chase up the person?</p>
<p>Err, a by-election to win perhaps!</p>
<p>A thousand other more important jobs to do!</p>
<p>Plus do you really think YouTube are going to be bothered to start investigating something without police involvement? And do you think the police are going to care!</p>
<p>YAWN!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22548</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#124;N&#124;B&#124;W&#124;: I have one candidate, but I&#039;m waiting to confirm:
http://www.bathcf.co.uk/author/chris/

Stuart: I have already asked Grant if he intends to pursue the phantom account user... what possible reason could he have not to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>|N|B|W|: I have one candidate, but I&#8217;m waiting to confirm:<br />
<a href="http://www.bathcf.co.uk/author/chris/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bathcf.co.uk/author/chris/</a></p>
<p>Stuart: I have already asked Grant if he intends to pursue the phantom account user&#8230; what possible reason could he have not to?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fenwick</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22547</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fenwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCHQ are digging themselves a nice hole here:

http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/07/shapps-denies-astroturfing-allegations.html

Claiming that he knew for two days that his account had been compromised.  And yet their e-campaigning wizard didn&#039;t think to change his password earlier...

As they keep digging, the Tories seem intent on piling lies upon lies on this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCHQ are digging themselves a nice hole here:</p>
<p><a href="http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/07/shapps-denies-astroturfing-allegations.html" rel="nofollow">http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/07/shapps-denies-astroturfing-allegations.html</a></p>
<p>Claiming that he knew for two days that his account had been compromised.  And yet their e-campaigning wizard didn&#8217;t think to change his password earlier&#8230;</p>
<p>As they keep digging, the Tories seem intent on piling lies upon lies on this one</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22546</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone tried 1234 as the password on any of Shapps&#039; other sites yet?

Just wondrin&#039; is all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone tried 1234 as the password on any of Shapps&#8217; other sites yet?</p>
<p>Just wondrin&#8217; is all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22545</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about this challenge to Grant Shapps? Demand that he ask YouTube to investigate the IP address from where this was sent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about this challenge to Grant Shapps? Demand that he ask YouTube to investigate the IP address from where this was sent.</p>
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		<title>By: &#124;N&#124;B&#124;W&#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22544</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124;N&#124;B&#124;W&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know the ID of the &#039;Sunglassed Twat&#039; as yet? He&#039;s gotta be feeling pretty paranoid right now.  He could be the next Arlene! LOL. Track him, Specially Rendite him, Shame him and the his Top Asto-Turder Shapps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know the ID of the &#8216;Sunglassed Twat&#8217; as yet? He&#8217;s gotta be feeling pretty paranoid right now.  He could be the next Arlene! LOL. Track him, Specially Rendite him, Shame him and the his Top Asto-Turder Shapps.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22543</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a schoolboy-ish made-up excuse. He&#039;s been caught red-handed. Iain Dale is a lot more understanding than when he happily blogged about Shapps&#039;s nonsense accusations about LibDems paying for poster sites. Typical Tories: utterly shameless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a schoolboy-ish made-up excuse. He&#8217;s been caught red-handed. Iain Dale is a lot more understanding than when he happily blogged about Shapps&#8217;s nonsense accusations about LibDems paying for poster sites. Typical Tories: utterly shameless!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22542</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the Tories will want any sort of moron running their election campaigns.

This will cause some disquiet in their camp - especially now Guido is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.order-order.com/2007/07/shapps-caught-personally-astro-turfing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;laughing at them too&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the Tories will want any sort of moron running their election campaigns.</p>
<p>This will cause some disquiet in their camp &#8211; especially now Guido is <a href="http://www.order-order.com/2007/07/shapps-caught-personally-astro-turfing.html" rel="nofollow">laughing at them too</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22541</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! Hello, Joe. Just popped over to add this.

I&#039;m not buying it, myself... but I can see why Grant would prefer that people thought him to be a simple moron as opposed to a duplicitous one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! Hello, Joe. Just popped over to add this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not buying it, myself&#8230; but I can see why Grant would prefer that people thought him to be a simple moron as opposed to a duplicitous one.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/grant-shapps-991.html#comment-22540</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Shapps has sent Tim Ireland an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2007/07/grant_shapps.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;e-mail&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Grant Shapps claims that his account was accessed by person or persons unknown because his password was set to &quot;a rather too guessable &#039;1234&#039;&quot; (since changed).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

E-campaigning guru indeed! Does anyone find this in the slightest bit credible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Shapps has sent Tim Ireland an <a href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2007/07/grant_shapps.asp" rel="nofollow">e-mail</a>:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Grant Shapps claims that his account was accessed by person or persons unknown because his password was set to &#8220;a rather too guessable &#8217;1234&#8242;&#8221; (since changed).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>E-campaigning guru indeed! Does anyone find this in the slightest bit credible?</p>
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