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		<title>By: Martin Land</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56464</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, prior to being the Tory PPC he was their campaign manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, prior to being the Tory PPC he was their campaign manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ: isn&#039;t the logic of what you&#039;re saying not to report news of any (alleged) crime until a conviction has taken place?

Never reporting things such as a police reward being offered, an arrest having taken place or a trial having started would be a massive over-reaction to the need to comment on things appropriate when someone is charged rather than convicted.

But also why shouldn&#039;t people who have an interest in the case (e.g. because friends or colleagues have been victims) know that an arrest has taken place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ: isn&#8217;t the logic of what you&#8217;re saying not to report news of any (alleged) crime until a conviction has taken place?</p>
<p>Never reporting things such as a police reward being offered, an arrest having taken place or a trial having started would be a massive over-reaction to the need to comment on things appropriate when someone is charged rather than convicted.</p>
<p>But also why shouldn&#8217;t people who have an interest in the case (e.g. because friends or colleagues have been victims) know that an arrest has taken place?</p>
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		<title>By: Grammar Police</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56462</link>
		<dc:creator>Grammar Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is being reported in most of the mainstream media (BBC, broadsheets etc) and so there is no reason not to post a link to such stories, especially when this relates to the Liberal Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is being reported in most of the mainstream media (BBC, broadsheets etc) and so there is no reason not to post a link to such stories, especially when this relates to the Liberal Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56461</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When commenting on this, please remember that someone has been arrested, not convicted. Thanks.

If you handn&#039;t posted a link to inflammatory news, then there would be no reason to ask people not to inflame the situation further.  What about waiting until events are finalised before posting on this at all?  Wouldn&#039;t that avoid things getting out of hand, at the same time as showing rather more editorial responsibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When commenting on this, please remember that someone has been arrested, not convicted. Thanks.</p>
<p>If you handn&#8217;t posted a link to inflammatory news, then there would be no reason to ask people not to inflame the situation further.  What about waiting until events are finalised before posting on this at all?  Wouldn&#8217;t that avoid things getting out of hand, at the same time as showing rather more editorial responsibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56460</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this has been going on for three years then the guy they have arrested had not even been selected. I though he was selected 18 months ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this has been going on for three years then the guy they have arrested had not even been selected. I though he was selected 18 months ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56443</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;those of us close to the C&amp;N campaign were more than happy with our candidate.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed.  Having been in Crewe for the whole campaign, Elizabeth was a joy to work for.  I&#039;ve worked for some duff candidates over the year just out of party loyalty.  I can honestly say that Elizabeth Shenton wasn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>those of us close to the C&amp;N campaign were more than happy with our candidate.</i></p>
<p>Indeed.  Having been in Crewe for the whole campaign, Elizabeth was a joy to work for.  I&#8217;ve worked for some duff candidates over the year just out of party loyalty.  I can honestly say that Elizabeth Shenton wasn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56442</link>
		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously hope this investigation doesn&#039;t reveal any incidents of foul play on the part of the Conservatives (or any other party for that matter) because politics really doesn&#039;t need any more events to undermine its credibility.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously hope this investigation doesn&#8217;t reveal any incidents of foul play on the part of the Conservatives (or any other party for that matter) because politics really doesn&#8217;t need any more events to undermine its credibility.</p>
<p><a href="http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: crewegwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56432</link>
		<dc:creator>crewegwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Cllr Neil; those of us close to the C&amp;N campaign were more than happy with our candidate.

For some reason [anybody know why ?] &quot;Spanny Thomas&quot; (is that a real name?) seems to delight in insulting Elizabeth Shenton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Cllr Neil; those of us close to the C&amp;N campaign were more than happy with our candidate.</p>
<p>For some reason [anybody know why ?] &#8220;Spanny Thomas&#8221; (is that a real name?) seems to delight in insulting Elizabeth Shenton.</p>
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		<title>By: Cllr Neil Bradbury</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56426</link>
		<dc:creator>Cllr Neil Bradbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spanny - not sure that primaries would improve our candidates in C&amp;N and Henley. I know Stephen to be an excellent potential MP and friends who went to Crewe say that Elizabeth Shenton was one of the best candidates in years. I fear that the candidates were not the problem and that selection methods are not the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spanny &#8211; not sure that primaries would improve our candidates in C&amp;N and Henley. I know Stephen to be an excellent potential MP and friends who went to Crewe say that Elizabeth Shenton was one of the best candidates in years. I fear that the candidates were not the problem and that selection methods are not the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56409</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When commenting on this, please remember that someone has been arrested, not convicted. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When commenting on this, please remember that someone has been arrested, not convicted. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Spanny Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56402</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanny Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candidates by primary elections is not that bad an idea in principle. Giving more people a say is not a bad idea, perhaps if we tried it we would have better candidates than those we had to endure in C&amp;N and Henley. 

The issue here is surely one of dirty tricks in politics. We have to use this to deflect criticism away from our campaigns. It is great how our opponents cry about our tactics WHEN THEY LOSE TO US but use worse tactics against us. That is what we must take from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candidates by primary elections is not that bad an idea in principle. Giving more people a say is not a bad idea, perhaps if we tried it we would have better candidates than those we had to endure in C&amp;N and Henley. </p>
<p>The issue here is surely one of dirty tricks in politics. We have to use this to deflect criticism away from our campaigns. It is great how our opponents cry about our tactics WHEN THEY LOSE TO US but use worse tactics against us. That is what we must take from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56396</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does this say for David Camerons policy of selecting candidates by Primary elections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this say for David Camerons policy of selecting candidates by Primary elections?</p>
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		<title>By: Spanny Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56390</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanny Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments on Conservative home are comical. He is being smeared apparently !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on Conservative home are comical. He is being smeared apparently !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56388</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time some Conservative is speaking about &quot;Lib Dem dirty campaigning&quot;, this event could be pointed to him/her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time some Conservative is speaking about &#8220;Lib Dem dirty campaigning&#8221;, this event could be pointed to him/her.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times is reporting that he has resigned www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4364170.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times is reporting that he has resigned <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4364170.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4364170.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-oakle-3040.html#comment-56353</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great news and I hope that things return to what is concidered normal campaign conditions in other areas is resumed in Watford

Please can I ask that thoses posting comments bare in mind that this is yet to go to court and avoid saying anything that would prejadice a court case

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great news and I hope that things return to what is concidered normal campaign conditions in other areas is resumed in Watford</p>
<p>Please can I ask that thoses posting comments bare in mind that this is yet to go to court and avoid saying anything that would prejadice a court case</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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