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	<title>Comments on: Ian Tomlinson &#8211; full Lib Dem blog round-up</title>
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		<title>By: peaceandharmony1</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88745</link>
		<dc:creator>peaceandharmony1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can imagine the story of Ian Tomlinson being murdered by a policeman in a cowardly attack from behind on Chinese T.V. (shown in Tibet)! The U.K. government has just shown itself to be no better than the Chinese and should resign immediately with no severance pay or pension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can imagine the story of Ian Tomlinson being murdered by a policeman in a cowardly attack from behind on Chinese T.V. (shown in Tibet)! The U.K. government has just shown itself to be no better than the Chinese and should resign immediately with no severance pay or pension.</p>
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		<title>By: Polar Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88574</link>
		<dc:creator>Polar Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead, but no Guardian campaign for him.

During this incident, a man is pushed over and later dies of a heart attack. The man who pushed him over was trying to push him, of that there is no doubt. But he wasn’t trying to kill him. The Coroner declared that the victim died of natural causes and the perpetrator was never charged with anything even approaching manslaughter or murder.

Sound familiar?

Here is where the story changes dimension.
The national papers cover it as a factual piece, BBC News Websites give it a bit but not too much and national radio is almost silent over the issue. Almost no one howls for summary justice or a special enquiry. Do you know of this incident?

The dead man was PC Chris Roberts, the offender was Patrick Savage and it happened almost invisibly in Brinkburn Gardens, Edgware on Boxing Day 2007. At first, when initial reports flashed out on the wires that a policeman had died during an incident in London, the media ran it as “Breaking News!”. As soon as the circumstances became clear, they binned it pretty quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead, but no Guardian campaign for him.</p>
<p>During this incident, a man is pushed over and later dies of a heart attack. The man who pushed him over was trying to push him, of that there is no doubt. But he wasn’t trying to kill him. The Coroner declared that the victim died of natural causes and the perpetrator was never charged with anything even approaching manslaughter or murder.</p>
<p>Sound familiar?</p>
<p>Here is where the story changes dimension.<br />
The national papers cover it as a factual piece, BBC News Websites give it a bit but not too much and national radio is almost silent over the issue. Almost no one howls for summary justice or a special enquiry. Do you know of this incident?</p>
<p>The dead man was PC Chris Roberts, the offender was Patrick Savage and it happened almost invisibly in Brinkburn Gardens, Edgware on Boxing Day 2007. At first, when initial reports flashed out on the wires that a policeman had died during an incident in London, the media ran it as “Breaking News!”. As soon as the circumstances became clear, they binned it pretty quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Tall</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88364</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;ve learned you don&#039;t read my posts, Jenny ;)

First article &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; linked to in my round-up, above (looks like the second was posted as I was writing it up).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ve learned you don&#8217;t read my posts, Jenny <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>First article <b>is</b> linked to in my round-up, above (looks like the second was posted as I was writing it up).</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88360</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always like reading these &quot;round-up&quot; posts. So far I have learnt that neither you nor Sunny read my blog...

:P

http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/tag/police+state and http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/242778.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always like reading these &#8220;round-up&#8221; posts. So far I have learnt that neither you nor Sunny read my blog&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/tag/police+state" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/tag/police+state</a> and <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/242778.html" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/242778.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Voter</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88335</link>
		<dc:creator>Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore above comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ignore above comment</p>
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		<title>By: Voter</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88323</link>
		<dc:creator>Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having problems posting when using a different ISP. Can someone tell me how to contact Ryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having problems posting when using a different ISP. Can someone tell me how to contact Ryan?</p>
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		<title>By: oldrightie</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88322</link>
		<dc:creator>oldrightie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever this incident was or was not, this government craves control. I have a picture your readers ought to view, from the past. As a &quot;rightie&quot; I am normally for strict law and order. Not, however like this. The police seem no longer to consider the people who pay them. They are more concerned with backing the winning horse in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever this incident was or was not, this government craves control. I have a picture your readers ought to view, from the past. As a &#8220;rightie&#8221; I am normally for strict law and order. Not, however like this. The police seem no longer to consider the people who pay them. They are more concerned with backing the winning horse in power.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the Met police were only there to protect city workers (dressed down of course) from uncontrolable violent elements intent on disrupting the peaceful protest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the Met police were only there to protect city workers (dressed down of course) from uncontrolable violent elements intent on disrupting the peaceful protest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://hugahoodie.blogspot.com/2009/04/ian-tomlinson-death-has-met-moved-on.html

^^ my effort.</description>
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<p>^^ my effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88316</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a blog posting as such but a comment from Caroline Pidgeon, one of the two Liberal Democrat members on the MPA.

Statement from Caroline Pidgeon, Liberal Democrat London Assembly Member and Member of the Metropolitan Police Authority


&quot;Liberal Democrat colleagues at Westminster have rightly called for a inquiry into the death of Ian Tomlinson but there also has to be a thorough inquiry in to the overall policing tactics adopted throughout London during the G20 summit.   The failure to fully address these issues could undermine public confidence in policing which will take years to recover.

&quot;As a Member of the Metropolitan Police Authority I am demanding a number of questions are answered by the Met about their strategy and tactics, from their media campaign in the run up to G20 right through to the actions they adopted last Thursday.  A full review needs to happen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a blog posting as such but a comment from Caroline Pidgeon, one of the two Liberal Democrat members on the MPA.</p>
<p>Statement from Caroline Pidgeon, Liberal Democrat London Assembly Member and Member of the Metropolitan Police Authority</p>
<p>&#8220;Liberal Democrat colleagues at Westminster have rightly called for a inquiry into the death of Ian Tomlinson but there also has to be a thorough inquiry in to the overall policing tactics adopted throughout London during the G20 summit.   The failure to fully address these issues could undermine public confidence in policing which will take years to recover.</p>
<p>&#8220;As a Member of the Metropolitan Police Authority I am demanding a number of questions are answered by the Met about their strategy and tactics, from their media campaign in the run up to G20 right through to the actions they adopted last Thursday.  A full review needs to happen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/ian-tomlinson-full-lib-dem-blog-roundup-13441.html#comment-88315</link>
		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, us:

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/04/07/horrendous/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, us:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/04/07/horrendous/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/04/07/horrendous/</a></p>
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