Comments on: Labour election leaflet unveils anti-foreigner shift in ID cards policy http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mark brailsford http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-120643 mark brailsford Tue, 11 May 2010 20:23:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-120643 Clegg, you traitorous opportunist . The once principled (No longer) Liberal Democrat party will reap the whirlwind from you selling out to the right wing Tory scum. You utter utter Idiots. You have made an enemy of people like me who once supported you. (I campaigned for LIBERTY BTW). Clegg has consigned the much cherished realignment of the left to the dustbin of history. Oblivion beckons and good fffing riddance. Clegg, you traitorous opportunist . The once principled (No longer) Liberal Democrat party will reap the whirlwind from you selling out to the right wing Tory scum. You utter utter Idiots. You have made an enemy of people like me who once supported you. (I campaigned for LIBERTY BTW).
Clegg has consigned the much cherished realignment of the left to the dustbin of history.
Oblivion beckons and good fffing riddance.

]]> By: mark brailsford http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-120641 mark brailsford Tue, 11 May 2010 20:22:51 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-120641 Clegg, you traitorous opportunist . The once principled (No longer) Liberal Democrat party will reap the whirlwind from you selling out to the right wing Tory scum. You utter utter Idiots. You have made an enemy of people like me who once supported you. (I campaigned for LIBERTY BTW). Clegg has consigned the much cherished realignment of the left to the dustbin of history. Oblivion beckons and god fucking riddance. Clegg, you traitorous opportunist . The once principled (No longer) Liberal Democrat party will reap the whirlwind from you selling out to the right wing Tory scum. You utter utter Idiots. You have made an enemy of people like me who once supported you. (I campaigned for LIBERTY BTW).
Clegg has consigned the much cherished realignment of the left to the dustbin of history.
Oblivion beckons and god fucking riddance.

]]> By: k http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48559 k Wed, 14 May 2008 08:57:53 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48559 The Labour leaflet is so deeply unpleasant on so many levels that it's hard to know how to comment. See http://freecommonwealth.blogspot.com/ for another attempt. The Labour leaflet is so deeply unpleasant on so many levels that it’s hard to know how to comment. See http://freecommonwealth.blogspot.com/ for another attempt.

]]> By: Andy Mayer http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48498 Andy Mayer Tue, 13 May 2008 12:17:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48498 First class-hate, now race-hate, who is going to be the first Labour MP to break ranks and ask their party to take a good hard look at itself. The hate-campaigners, to my mind, are Labour's new militant tendancy. First class-hate, now race-hate, who is going to be the first Labour MP to break ranks and ask their party to take a good hard look at itself. The hate-campaigners, to my mind, are Labour’s new militant tendancy.

]]> By: Hywel Morgan http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48488 Hywel Morgan Tue, 13 May 2008 10:13:09 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48488 As Kinnock might have said: If Labour start to head towards defeat in 2009/10, I warn you not to look a bit foreign, I warn you not to be young, I warn you not to be poor and not a key swing voters group..... As Kinnock might have said:

If Labour start to head towards defeat in 2009/10, I warn you not to look a bit foreign, I warn you not to be young, I warn you not to be poor and not a key swing voters group…..

]]> By: Steve Cooke http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48481 Steve Cooke Tue, 13 May 2008 09:12:02 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48481 Ah - so it was the plan that having an ID card would be compulsory, but carrying it around on ones person would not be, and that is what has changed. So now the authorities can start demanding to see the papers of anyone who looks or sounds a bit foreign! Well that's certainly going to lead to an improvement in community relations and a fostering of the spirit of trust in our society. Tossers. Ah – so it was the plan that having an ID card would be compulsory, but carrying it around on ones person would not be, and that is what has changed. So now the authorities can start demanding to see the papers of anyone who looks or sounds a bit foreign! Well that’s certainly going to lead to an improvement in community relations and a fostering of the spirit of trust in our society. Tossers.

]]> By: Steve Cooke http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48480 Steve Cooke Tue, 13 May 2008 09:08:56 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48480 How odd - their first document in 2006 stated: "From 2008, we will make biometric ID compulsory for all foreign nationals coming here for work, study, or to stay for longer than six months, unless they are from the EEA, and will begin to issue a National Insurance Number only when a biometric identity has been established." The implication in Brown's first PMQs of the year was that they were compulsory (I was left in no doubt anyway): http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2008-01-09a.294.5 How odd – their first document in 2006 stated:
“From 2008, we will make biometric ID
compulsory for all foreign nationals coming here for work, study, or to stay for longer than six months, unless they are from the EEA, and will begin to issue a National Insurance Number only when a biometric identity has been established.”

The implication in Brown’s first PMQs of the year was that they were compulsory (I was left in no doubt anyway):
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2008-01-09a.294.5

]]> By: Mark Pack http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48478 Mark Pack Tue, 13 May 2008 08:52:58 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48478 Steve: I checked those documents too before posting, and the first one contains this phrase for example: "Foreign nationals will not be required to carry their identity card". That's different from what the position Labour is now taking in their by-election campaign. ID cards for foreigners isn't new, but what is new is their requirement to carry them round. Steve: I checked those documents too before posting, and the first one contains this phrase for example: “Foreign nationals will not be required to carry their identity card”.

That’s different from what the position Labour is now taking in their by-election campaign. ID cards for foreigners isn’t new, but what is new is their requirement to carry them round.

]]> By: Steve Cooke http://www.libdemvoice.org/id-cards-in-crewe-and-nantwich-2683.html#comment-48476 Steve Cooke Tue, 13 May 2008 08:21:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=2683#comment-48476 Have I seen and heard a different set of policies to you Mark? I'm pretty sure this has been policy for at least a year - I've been listening to ministers talking about ID cards for foreign nationals resident in this country or here for long stays consistently. In fact, I recall the PM challenging Cameron to disagree with the policy at PMQs. A quick Google whilst writing has revealed these two documents: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/managingourborders/compulsoryidcards/IDcards/foreignnationalsforidcards.pdf?view=Binary http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/borders-action-plan.pdf?view=Binary Have I seen and heard a different set of policies to you Mark? I’m pretty sure this has been policy for at least a year – I’ve been listening to ministers talking about ID cards for foreign nationals resident in this country or here for long stays consistently. In fact, I recall the PM challenging Cameron to disagree with the policy at PMQs.

A quick Google whilst writing has revealed these two documents:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/managingourborders/compulsoryidcards/IDcards/foreignnationalsforidcards.pdf?view=Binary
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/borders-action-plan.pdf?view=Binary

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