Comments on: If you’re wondering whether the Guardian has taken a turn against the Liberal Democrats… http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63293 Anonymous Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:27:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63293 The Guardian really is the most appalling shite newspaper. If you must read it, read it online, don't buy it. The Guardian really is the most appalling shite newspaper. If you must read it, read it online, don’t buy it.

]]> By: Biodiesel http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63292 Biodiesel Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:17:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63292 Yes, I remember Lucy Powell very well. She took over from Simon Buckby to run Britain in Europe, the Blairite referendum campaign machine that almost wrecked the European Movement at the time. It susbsequently folded and Lord Sainsbury took his money away, once No 10 was no longer interested. I know, as I have helped try and pick up the pieces at the European Movement since then. I wouldn't rate her chances personally in that seat, although she is local. Yes, I remember Lucy Powell very well. She took over from Simon Buckby to run Britain in Europe, the Blairite referendum campaign machine that almost wrecked the European Movement at the time. It susbsequently folded and Lord Sainsbury took his money away, once No 10 was no longer interested. I know, as I have helped try and pick up the pieces at the European Movement since then.
I wouldn’t rate her chances personally in that seat, although she is local.

]]> By: johninpenarth http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63289 johninpenarth Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:52:31 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63289 The Guardian should be viewed as more toxically anti LD than even the Torygraph. It occasionally pretends to flirt with us, only to make its later inevitable 'conclusion' to back Labour the more damning. Really, we should indeed switch to the Indy which is a liberal paper and which both needs and deserves our support. The Guardian should be viewed as more toxically anti LD than even the Torygraph. It occasionally pretends to flirt with us, only to make its later inevitable ‘conclusion’ to back Labour the more damning.

Really, we should indeed switch to the Indy which is a liberal paper and which both needs and deserves our support.

]]> By: Peter Chapman http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63280 Peter Chapman Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:50:29 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63280 The Guardian is a Labour rag .It patronises the Lib Dems and basically takes a Polly Toynbee line ie 'agonise about Labour for 4 years threaten to switch and then say there is no alternative but to vote for them at the election'. I am one of the many Lib dems who switched to the Indy some years ago and will not be returning The Guardian is a Labour rag .It patronises the Lib Dems and basically takes a Polly Toynbee line ie ‘agonise about Labour for 4 years threaten to switch and then say there is no alternative but to vote for them at the election’. I am one of the many Lib dems who switched to the Indy some years ago and will not be returning

]]> By: Markie http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63275 Markie Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:31:26 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63275 Its OK, Lucy Powell is too busy writing articles for the Graudian to have made much of an impact in Withington, where she's fighting John Leech MP, to have engaged much with the local voting populace. To be fair, the graidaun does sell well in the constituency. But, as everywhere, not nearly as well as the Mail, Express, Sun etc etc. Bridget - I hope you aren't making the same mistake! Its OK, Lucy Powell is too busy writing articles for the Graudian to have made much of an impact in Withington, where she’s fighting John Leech MP, to have engaged much with the local voting populace.

To be fair, the graidaun does sell well in the constituency. But, as everywhere, not nearly as well as the Mail, Express, Sun etc etc.

Bridget – I hope you aren’t making the same mistake!

]]> By: Bridget Fox http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63211 Bridget Fox Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:43:02 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63211 The Guardian politics blog has had a weekly piece each by Lucy Powell (Lab), Charlotte Leslie (Cons) and me (Lib Dem) since last March. All of us are women candidates in marginal seats. Our pieces are supposed to be tagged as 'the candidates' but this does not always happen, although I think that reflects cockup not conspiracy.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/bridgetfox The Guardian politics blog has had a weekly piece each by Lucy Powell (Lab), Charlotte Leslie (Cons) and me (Lib Dem) since last March. All of us are women candidates in marginal seats.

Our pieces are supposed to be tagged as ‘the candidates’ but this does not always happen, although I think that reflects cockup not conspiracy….

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/bridgetfox

]]> By: David Heigham http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63169 David Heigham Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:30:05 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63169 Thanks for the tip. If she can post that we can have fun there wit the Labour Conference. Thanks for the tip. If she can post that we can have fun there wit the Labour Conference.

]]> By: Andy Hinton http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63137 Andy Hinton Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:27:30 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63137 @Manj, if we play our cards right and, more importantly, the Labour party really screws itself up, I could easily imagine a Graun endorsement, actually (as someone who reads it). Its leader column this conference was quite nice about us, after all. @Manj, if we play our cards right and, more importantly, the Labour party really screws itself up, I could easily imagine a Graun endorsement, actually (as someone who reads it). Its leader column this conference was quite nice about us, after all.

]]> By: Auberius http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63097 Auberius Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:07:18 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63097 Deary me, things must have got bad for them to be offering a platform for someone as talentless as Lucy Powell... Still, it's not quite as bad as Question Time's constant booking of A-list Tories as if they were non-party observers of society. Btw, @Stuart, Robert Gutfreund-Walmsley is hilarious; on polling day in 2005, he spent fifteen minutes trying to convert me while I was telling. Because of course, every Liberal Democrat warms to a Hungarian who fled to this country to escape the communists who then turns round and says we should leave the EU and limit immigration... Deary me, things must have got bad for them to be offering a platform for someone as talentless as Lucy Powell… Still, it’s not quite as bad as Question Time’s constant booking of A-list Tories as if they were non-party observers of society.

Btw, @Stuart, Robert Gutfreund-Walmsley is hilarious; on polling day in 2005, he spent fifteen minutes trying to convert me while I was telling. Because of course, every Liberal Democrat warms to a Hungarian who fled to this country to escape the communists who then turns round and says we should leave the EU and limit immigration…

]]> By: LiberalHammer http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63095 LiberalHammer Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:49:55 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63095 It certainly isn't obvious to the casual observer that she is a Labour candidate. The Grauniad should certainly be more explicit when printing party line drivel from Millbank. It certainly isn’t obvious to the casual observer that she is a Labour candidate. The Grauniad should certainly be more explicit when printing party line drivel from Millbank.

]]> By: rochdale cowboy http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63086 rochdale cowboy Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:30:22 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63086 The Indie was very fair its coverage of conference - and even seemed to be endorsing us - could I suggest that we all consider switching to this paper - it still frustrates me when I see Lib Dems reading trash like the Torygraph - hit them where it hurts! The Indie was very fair its coverage of conference – and even seemed to be endorsing us – could I suggest that we all consider switching to this paper – it still frustrates me when I see Lib Dems reading trash like the Torygraph – hit them where it hurts!

]]> By: Stuart http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63083 Stuart Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:03:22 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63083 I just looked up the result in that seat last time, and spotted the wonderfully named UKIP candidate, Robert Gutfreund-Walmsley. "Gutfreund" - doesn't sound too UK to me. I just looked up the result in that seat last time, and spotted the wonderfully named UKIP candidate, Robert Gutfreund-Walmsley. “Gutfreund” – doesn’t sound too UK to me.

]]> By: Darrell http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63080 Darrell Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:59:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63080 According to Liberal Conspiricy The Guardian is 'flirting with the Tories'....however I rather suspect that it will take the line it did last time...vote tactically for Labour and Lib Dem where it is tactically wise too....or maybe even vote Lib Dem and Tory tactically!!! Sadly nothing The Guardian does surprises me anymore...it was spineless over the Iraq war which is why I now much prefer the Indy ;) According to Liberal Conspiricy The Guardian is ‘flirting with the Tories’….however I rather suspect that it will take the line it did last time…vote tactically for Labour and Lib Dem where it is tactically wise too….or maybe even vote Lib Dem and Tory tactically!!!

Sadly nothing The Guardian does surprises me anymore…it was spineless over the Iraq war which is why I now much prefer the Indy ;)

]]> By: Alex Foster http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63075 Alex Foster Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:47:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63075 "If you’re wondering whether the Guardian has taken a turn against the Liberal Democrats…" Gosh... is it election time again already? “If you’re wondering whether the Guardian has taken a turn against the Liberal Democrats…”

Gosh… is it election time again already?

]]> By: Manj http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63072 Manj Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:45:16 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63072 Who do we expect them to endorse in 2010? I haven't read The Guardian for ages, are they warming to us at all? Who do we expect them to endorse in 2010? I haven’t read The Guardian for ages, are they warming to us at all?

]]> By: John Abrams http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63071 John Abrams Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:43:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63071 God she looks boring! God she looks boring!

]]> By: Thomas Hemsley http://www.libdemvoice.org/if-youre-wondering-whether-the-guardian-has-taken-a-turn-against-the-liberal-democrats-4159.html#comment-63069 Thomas Hemsley Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:30:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=4159#comment-63069 If the Newsnight straw poll is anything to go by, she won't win anyway. I'm not sure writing in the Guardian will help. :P If the Newsnight straw poll is anything to go by, she won’t win anyway. I’m not sure writing in the Guardian will help. :P

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