A look back at the polls: June ‘09

Written by Stephen Tall on 4th July 2009 – 11:30 am

We tend not to be too poll-obsessed here at LDV – of course we look at them, as do all other politico-geeks, but viewed in isolation no one poll will tell you very much beyond what you want to read into it. Looked at over a reasonable time-span and, if there are enough polls, you can see some trends.
Here, in chronological order, are the results of the twelve polls published in June:

Tories 37%, Labour 21%, Lib Dems 19% – YouGov/Telegraph (4th June 2009)
Tories 38%, Labour 22%, Lib Dems 20% – ComRes/Independent (9th June)
Tories 36%, Labour 24%, Lib Dems 19% – Populus/Times (12th June)
Tories 35%, Labour 20%, Lib Dems 16% – Harris/Metro (23rd June)
Tories 40%, Labour 24%, Lib Dems 18% – YouGov/Times (14th June)
Tories 39%, Labour 27%, Lib Dems 18% – ICM/Guardian (16th June)
Tories 39%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 19% – Mori/Unison (16th June)
Tories 38%, Labour 22%, Lib Dems 20% – ComRes/Independent (21st June)
Tories 38%, Labour 21%, Lib Dems 19% – Mori (unpublished)
Tories 38%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 18% – YouGov/Telegraph (26th June)
Tories 40%, Labour 24%, Lib Dems 17% – YouGov/People (26th June)
Tories 36%, Labour 25%, Lib Dems 19% – ComRes/Independent (28th June)

Which gives us an average rating for the parties in June as follows (compared with May’s averages):

Tories 38% (-2%), Labour 23% (-1%), Lib Dems 18% (-1%)

All but one of the polls in this month’s round-up took place after the 4th June elections, and usually there is a ‘winner’s premium’: a small boost for whichever party is judged by the media/public to have done best. The same has proven true in 2009 – it’s just that the winner’s premium has been spread among the minor parties (Ukip, Greens, BNP et al).

Remarkably all three major parties have, according to our monthly average, shed support in the past month. I think that’s the first time this has happened in all the months I’ve been writing LDV’s poll round-ups. In fact, if you look at the past two months (ie, post-‘Expensesgate’), the Tories have dropped from 43% down to 38% (-5%) and Labour from 28% to 23% (-5%).

The Lib Dems can take some comfort that our support has remained steady at 18%, and we appear not to have been too badly hit by the relatively minor expenses indiscretions of a handful of our MPs. Equally, we’ll be disappointed that at a time when both Labour and the Tories have taken big hits, losing one-tenth of the public’s support, we have done no more than hold our own.

The FT this week published an analysis by academics Niall Ferguson and Glen O’Hara, Do not count on the Tories winning just yet, highlighting quite how unpredictable the coming general election actually is:

The reality is that the electoral position of the Tories is significantly weaker than that of Labour 12 years ago. Opinion polls have the Tory vote hovering between 36 and 40 per cent. This is nowhere near Labour’s poll position in early 1995, close to 60 per cent. The polls then probably overstated Labour support but the fact remains that the Conservatives have yet to win over the majority of voters. …

We are not saying that the Tories cannot win the general election. But it is by no means as certain as many assume. Even now, with the prime minister on his knees, our prediction would be for the Conservatives to be the largest party in a hung parliament or to have only a small majority. It is a long, hard slog that lies ahead.


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CommentIsLinked@LDV: Nick Clegg – While the Conservatives try to appear gay-friendly, they now stand shoulder with march-banning bigots

Written by Stephen Tall on 4th July 2009 – 10:30 am

Over at LabourList, Nick Clegg pens a powerful post in favour of the strides taken in recent years to enshrine equal rights for gay people. Here’s an excerpt:

Like many people, in 1997 I hoped that with the right cast into the political wilderness a permanent victory for gay rights was in sight. But discrimination still lingers in the statute book, and homophobia still festers in homes, offices and classrooms. Gay rights, like all minority rights, should by now have become unquestionable. But in practice they are still too often treated like privileges, falling in and out of favour with politicians. David Cameron’s recent apology over Section 28 is a prime example. Leadership is about speaking out on issues when they matter, not simply when you judge public opinion has moved. …

I am determined that the Liberal Democrats will remain outspoken and steadfast in our defence of gay rights, from backing same sex marriage to stopping the deportation of gay asylum seekers to countries were homosexuality is punishable by death. There has been much progress in recent years, and much to celebrate. But as long as homophobia still rears its ugly head in workplaces, in classrooms, and even in the home – politicians must continue to speak out in favour of the values of gay rights. For me, it is quite simply one of the touchstones of what a liberal society should be: open, tolerant and free of prejudice.

You can read the article in full HERE.


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The LDV Saturday Open Thread (4 July ‘09): what’s on your mind?

Written by Stephen Tall on 4th July 2009 – 8:00 am

We don’t do an LDV Daily View 2 x 2 round-up on Saturdays, so instead here’s an open thread. What stories have caught your eye? What issues are on your mind? Are you mourning Andy Murray’s Wimbledon semi-final defeat? Are you looking forward to the cooler weather? Or have you spotted an interesting political story, perhaps even one connected to the Lib Dems? And what do you make of Sarah Palin’s decision to step down as Alaskan governor? Discuss away in the comments below…


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YouTube ‘cos we want to: back to the ’80s

Written by Stephen Tall on 3rd July 2009 – 7:00 pm

Welcome to this Friday edition of our new LDV feature rounding up some of the best/worst/most curious political videos. This week, in the absence of any contemporary videos grabbing my attention, I thought we’d take a trip down memory lane, and revisit party election broadcasts of the 1980s from each of the three main parties.

Labour party election broadcast 1987

The ‘87 Labour campaign has gone down in the history books as presentationally slick. You might doubt that from the first two minutes of this 10-minute film (yes, TEN MINUTES: what sort of attention span do these people think we have?) – a bizarre montage presumably meant to show Mrs Thatcher to be a heartless monster, but actually leaves the impression that she’s a damn sight more Prime Ministerial than Neil Kinnock. Stick with it (or fast forward) to the end, and it closes with a shot of the male-dominated Labour shadow cabinet in a dark, dour room. You look at it, and think, ‘Thank God that lot didn’t end up running the country.’ Just a shame which lot actually did.

Tory party election broadcast 1983 Read more »


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Lib Dem not-so-good-news round-up

Written by Stephen Tall on 3rd July 2009 – 6:12 pm

West Wing devotees will be familiar with the concept of ‘take out the trash day’ – it even has its own Wiki entry:

The title refers to the Friday press briefing wherein the White House releases information about several sensitive stories, thereby preventing discussion and reducing any probable impact in the media.

Donna: What’s take out the trash day?
Josh: Friday.
Donna: I mean, what is it?
Josh: Any stories we have to give the press that we’re not wild about, we give all in a lump on Friday.
Donna: Why do you do it in a lump?
Josh: Instead of one at a time?
Donna: I’d think you’d want to spread them out.
Josh: They’ve got X column inches to fill, right? They’re going to fill them no matter what.
Donna: Yes.
Josh: So if we give them one story, that story’s X column inches.
Donna: And if we give them five stories …
Josh: They’re a fifth the size.
Donna: Why do you do it on Friday?
Josh: Because no one reads the paper on Saturday.
Donna: You guys are real populists, aren’t you?

So here goes with our Friday round-up… Read more »


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Wikio’s top blogs in the UK: June ‘09

Written by Stephen Tall on 3rd July 2009 – 2:00 pm

Those lovely people at Wikio have emailed The Voice with their list^ of the top blogs in the UK in June 2009.

(Lib Dem blogger Jennie Rigg has already published the list of top 30 politics blogs: below is the full list for all blogs, though there’s considerable overlap between the two owing to the dominance of politics blogs in Wikio’s weightings.)

1 Iain Dale’s Diary
2 Guy Fawkes’ blog
3 Liberal Conspiracy
4 Labourlist
5 Blah! Blah! Technology
6 politicalbetting.com
7 Liberal Democrat Voice
8 Dizzy Thinks
9 Harry’s Place
10 Old Holborn
11 Tom Harris MP
12 imran.ali
13 Telegraph Blogs – Daniel Hannan
14 ConservativeHome’s ToryDiary
15 Labourhome
16 Tory Bear
17 The Devil’s Kitchen
18 Bloggerheads
19 Bad Science
20 Mr Eugenides
21 Chicken Yoghurt
22 Stumbling and Mumbling
23 Archbishop Cranmer
24 TalkCarswell.com
25 normblog
26 UKPolling Report
27 Charlotte Gore Blog
28 John Redwood’s Diary
29 Nick Robinson’s Newslog
30 Craig Murray

Ranking by Wikio.

^ Here’s the Wikio explanation of their ratings: Read more »


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Daily View 2×2: 3 July 2009

Written by Stephen Tall on 3rd July 2009 – 1:00 pm

2 Big Stories

Is homphobia still rife on the Tory benches?

That’s the allegation from Labour cabinet minister Ben Bradshaw:

Ben Bradshaw has said “a deep strain of homophobia still exists on the Conservative benches”. Mr Bradshaw, one of three gay men currently in the cabinet, made the comments as a new poll suggested more gay people were turning to the Tories. Chris Bryant, another gay minister, said: “If gays vote Tory they will rue the day very soon.”

For what it’s worth I suspect that equality for gay people is the one area where the Tories have genuinely changed over the years – though there have been recent allegations from prominent Tories themselves that perhaps attitudes haven’t changed as much as they might wish to believe. And of course it’s a very recent conversion. As recently as 2003, David Cameron voted for the retention of Margaret Thatcher’s infamous section 28, an action he apologised for just a couple of days ago.

Row over ex-Speaker Martin’s peerage

Michael Martin might have resigned as chair of the House of Commons, but controversy continues to dog him. First of all, there was the question of his pension pay-off, then whether he should be appointed to the House of Lords
, and now the allegation that the House of Lords vetting panel pointedly noted that candidates should “enhance rather than diminish” the second chamber. The claim has prompted a furious retort from ex-Speaker Martin’s ertswhile Labour colleagues:

Sixteen MPs are calling for chairman Lord Jay to withdraw the comments. They have signed a Commons motion saying they were “dismayed” to read about the comments in the Guardian newspaper – adding Mr Martin had “served this House so well as an elected member with great integrity, charm and good temper”.

There’s an easy way to avoid such problems with appointments to the Lords, as Lib Dem blogger ‘Costigan Quist’ observes:

Over the years, democracies have developed quite a good way of getting round this problem. It’s called voting. It’s a really clever idea where candidates stand for election, the people vote and the winners get elected. Perhaps we should give it a try.

2 must-read blog-posts


Iain Dale and political morailty (Jonathan Calder)

Noting the top Tory blogger’s double-standards as he tries to “position himself as an arbiter of political morality” for the Norwich North by-election.

Should Early Day Motions be scrapped? (Mark Thompson)

Whilst I can see that it could be argued that they are a waste of money, at the same time I know it is a good way for campaigns to get a foothold. I know that some electoral reform campaigns have used the “Lobby your MP to sign EDM …” to help gauge parliamentary support and give them more traction.


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CommentIsLinked@LDV: Paddy Ashdown – The age when the powerful can act unilaterally is over

Written by The Voice on 3rd July 2009 – 12:30 pm

Over at The Independent, there is an extract from former Lib Dem leader Lord (Paddy) Ashdown’s speech to the Royal Institute of International Affairs at Chatham House examining the situation in Afghanistan. Here’s an excerpt:

… the chief reason for the fact that we are losing lives is not in the ineffectiveness of the Afghan government, who we love to blame, but in our own complete failure to have any coordinated international plan; in our inability to work together between the nations of the coalition; in our determination to see Afghanistan solely through the prism of the place in which we each happen to be fighting; and in our refusal to coordinate ourselves in order to produce a single countrywide strategy which enables us to speak with a single voice and act with a single purpose. The real scandal in Afghanistan is not that our soldiers don’t have the right boots, or enough helicopters. It is that they are paying with their lives because our politicians cannot or will not get their act together.

You can read the full article HERE.


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How can you help Liberal Democrat Voice?

Written by The Voice on 3rd July 2009 – 9:20 am

The Voice is only a success because of the interest and support from our readers. For many people, just lurking and reading the site is all they want to do – and that’s fine, we’re grateful for people taking the time to read the site.

You can though help us continue to produce interesting content for a growing audience. Here are three simple ways:

1. Let us have your tips for stories. Perhaps there’s something outrageous going on in your local council? Or you’re an expert in a particular area and have spotted a story other people have missed? Or you’ve seen some news no-one else is mentioning? Just drop us an email at . If you want to write a piece yourself, that’s great – but if you’d rather just let us know about the story, that’s fine too.

2. Share our content with other people. Like a story you see on the site? If so, please let your friends know about it. Whether it is by sharing it on Facebook, sending a tweet, adding a link from your blog, saving it on a social networking site or anything else – the more people share good stories, the wider the audience they reach.

3. Donate. We keep our costs to a minimum, but our hosting costs have gone up as our traffic has grown, and any additional funds beyond that can go on better Conference activities and more internet advertising to promote our site and stories.

The site’s success is down to far more than just The Voice’s team. Readers like yourself are a keep part of our success. If you’re already doing any of these three – many thanks. And if not, why not try one of them this coming month?


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BBC Question Time – LDV open thread, 2 July 2009 #bbcqt

Written by Stephen Tall on 2nd July 2009 – 10:20 pm

If this week’s weather hasn’t got you all hot ‘n’ bothered, then what better way of remedying that than by watching tonight’s Question Time (BBC1 and online, 10.35 pm)?

David Laws, the Lib Dems’ children, schools and families, will be the party’s representative. The QT website gives his impressive pre-Commons bio: “Before his election to Parliament in 1997, he had a career in economics and business, during which he was vice president of JP Morgan, and head of US Dollar and Sterling Treasuries at Barclays de Zoete Wedd. He left in 1994 to take up the role of economic adviser to the Liberal Democrats, and from 1997 to 1999 was the party’s director of policy and research.”

Joining David on the panel will be Deputy Leader of the Labour Party and Leader of the House of Commons Harriet Harman MP, the former leader of the Tory party Iain Duncan Smith MP, the musician and songwriter Jarvis Cocker, and the journalist and columnist Peter Hitchens.

As per last week, we’re continuing to trial a new way of contributing to the open thread, via Facebook’s Live Stream Box, below:

If you’re tuning in, you can join the simultanous online Twitter debate here at #bbcqt, or the LDV debate in the thread below. Meanwhile Lib Dem blogger Mark Thompson will be liveblogging events via CoverItLive at his own blog.


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Opinion: Fear was the key in Iraq (and Norwich)

Written by Terry Gilbert on 2nd July 2009 – 8:15 pm

The Washington Post reports that Saddam Hussein’s interrogations by the FBI have been released, under US Freedom of Information laws, to the ‘National Security Archive’, an independent non-governmental research institute and library located at The George Washington University. The NSA’s website has
“Twenty Interviews and Five Conversations with “High Value Detainee # 1″, should anyone still be interested.

Fortunately, the Post has done the hard work for us. There is of course the usual, now unsurprising, confirmation that Saddam had no link to, nor even any sympathy with, Al Qaeda:

Piro raised bin Laden in his last conversation with Hussein, on June 28, 2004, but the information he yielded conflicted with the Bush administration’s many efforts to link Iraq with the terrorist group. Hussein replied that throughout history there had been conflicts between believers of Islam and political leaders. He said that “he was a believer in God but was not a zealot . . . that religion and government should not mix.” Hussein said that he had never met bin Laden and that the two of them “did not have the same belief or vision.”

“When Piro noted that there were reasons why Hussein and al-Qaeda should have cooperated — they had the same enemies in the United States and Saudi Arabia — Hussein replied that the United States was not Iraq’s enemy, and that he simply opposed its policies.”

But the key point of interest – for Western observers, at least – is probably the unaccustomed regional perspective. The erstwhile Iraqi dictator was afraid not so much of the US disapproval but of another war with Iran. As the Post reports:

Hussein’s fear of Iran, which he said he considered a greater threat than the United States, featured prominently in the discussion about weapons of mass destruction. Iran and Iraq had fought a grinding eight-year war in the 1980s, and Hussein said he was convinced that Iran was trying to annex southern Iraq — which is largely Shiite. “Hussein viewed the other countries in the Middle East as weak and could not defend themselves or Iraq from an attack from Iran,” Piro [the interrogator] recounted in his summary of a June 11, 2004, conversation.

“The threat from Iran was the major factor as to why he did not allow the return of UN inspectors,” Piro wrote. “Hussein stated he was more concerned about Iran discovering Iraq’s weaknesses and vulnerabilities than the repercussions of the United States for his refusal to allow UN inspectors back into Iraq.”

So there you have it. Fear of others is the key to all human evil.

Incidentally, the conduct of the debate about the Iraq war in Norwich may be of interest to voters and campaigners in the Norwich North by-election. The current Green Party candidate in the by election, Rupert Read, bizarrely stripped naked and put a brown paper bag over his head as a protest.

He also disrupted a 2004 visit to Norwich’s market place – newly, but controversially, refubished by the then Lib Dem administration – from then Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy by dancing excitedly around him, demanding to know why Kennedy was in favour (sic) of the war in Iraq – and drawing allegations of assault from some aggrieved Lib Dems who got bumped in the ensuing melee. Current Lib Dem by-election candidate, April Pond, at that time a senior Norwich city councillor – and who had played a prominent role in the market refurb – was one of the most livid. Eventually no court case ensued, the various parties presumably concluding that it was case of six of one and half a dozen of the other.

But the point to remember is that, in the tortuously philosophical mind of Dr Read, support for troops sent by a democratically elected Parliament to fight in a war is to be equated with support for the war itself, which Lib Dem MPs (lest we ever forget, Gawd Bless ‘Em) voted solidly against.

And he accuses us of ‘fibbing’

* Terry Gilbert is a former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary candidate, and has been a Lib Dem member since 1983.


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Norwich North: could Labour finish fourth?

Written by Stephen Tall on 2nd July 2009 – 7:15 pm

The Eastern Daily Press has produced an intriguing analysis of last month’s local elections results, attempting to estimate how voting then might map across to the Norwich North by-election to be held later this month:

Calculating party support ahead of the by-election is difficult due to division boundaries overlapping constituency ones.

An approximation would give a line-up based on the June 4 results of: Conservatives 10,656 (40.1pc); Labour 4,953 (18.6pc); Lib Dem 4,371 (16.5pc); Green 4,251 (16.0pc); Ukip – standing in only four seats – 2,106 (7.9pc); BNP 228 (0.9pc). …

Labour, Lib Dems and Greens will be seeking to establish themselves early in the campaign as the main challenger to the Tories.

This compares with an ICM opinion poll last week (with a high margin of error) suggesting the Tories (34%) and Labour (30%) out front, with the Lib Dems on 15% and the Greens on 14%.

Of course not only do the local county boundaries not overlap directly with the constituencies, but the way folk vote in Parliamentary elections is often different than in local elections – just ask the Lib Dem PPCs in Liverpool city! My guess is the opinion poll figures will prove more accurate than an analysis of local election results, but we’ll see soon enough.


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The Times: Osborne to be investigated by sleaze watchdog over #mpsexpenses

Written by Stephen Tall on 2nd July 2009 – 5:30 pm

Here are the allegations, as summarised in a Lib Dem press release issued this afternoon:

George Osborne used his second homes allowance on a London property and then switched it to a large farmhouse in his Cheshire constituency of Tatton. He bought the Cheshire residence ten months before he won his Tatton seat in 2001. Instead of taking out a mortgage on the farmhouse he increased the mortgage on the London property which he bought for £700,000 in 1998.

He designated the London house his second home, even though it was his main residence, so he could claim mortgage interest payments. Two years later he took out a separate £450,000 mortgage on the farmhouse, made that formally his second home, and has since claimed £100,000 on it. It is claimed that Mr Osborne was able to reduce the mortgage on his London home to less than £200,000 before he sold it for £1.48million in 2006, making a £748,000 profit. He did not pay capital gains because he had declared it his main home since 1998 with the tax authorities – despite the two years it was formally designated as his second home with Commons officials.

The Liberal Democrats have calculated that if Mr Osborne had paid tax for those two years, he would have been liable for £54,948. David Cameron has banned his MPs from flipping their homes and avoiding paying capital gains tax.

Here’s the story in The Times:

George Osborne, the Shadow Chancellor, is to be investigated by a sleaze watchdog after revelations in The Times over his second-home allowance claims. … [John Lyon, the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards] is to look into a complaint about Mr Osborne’s claims for a second-home allowance after it emerged that he had taken out a mortgage on his constituency home that was nearly £5,000 more than its purchase price.

… Mr Lyon said he would look into a claim that “Mr Osborne claimed for mortgage payments that were not necessarily incurred, contrary to the rules of the House”.

“Since your complaint involves allegations relating to events of over seven years ago, I have consulted the House of Commons Committee on Standards and Privileges and they have agreed to me initiating an inquiry into this part of your complaint.” He said that he put the claims to Mr Osborne, adding: “When I have received his response, I will consider best how to proceed.”

And here’s what Lib Dem Treasury sokesman Lord (Matthew) Oakeshott has to say about the allegations:

George Osborne should know that you can’t tell the taxman one story and the fees office another. We asked him to come clean and pay the taxpayer back weeks ago but he did nothing.

“This is a real test of David Cameron’s leadership – he needs to make his Shadow Chancellor pay back the tax he’s dodged. It looks like Cameron has either got one rule for the Notting Hill set and another for the knights of the shires, or that George Osborne is simply too close to chop.”


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Bercow: deputy speakers should be elected

Written by Helen Duffett on 2nd July 2009 – 12:47 pm

John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, today told the House that his new deputy speakers should be elected by MPs.

From the BBC:

In a statement, he told MPs he wanted two deputy speakers from the government side and one from the opposition side.

He is believed to be concerned that following his own election by secret ballot last month the three deputies should also be elected.

Mr Bercow indicated he had consulted party whips, who normally appoint the deputy speakers, about the plan.

It is thought that Mr Bercow is looking to implement the changes – or to start the process of change – after the summer recess.

Electing the deputy speakers could raise a question of political balance – traditionally the Speaker and his three deputies have been chosen to reflect the strength of the various parties in the Commons.

The three current deputy speakers are Conservative MPs Sir Alan Haselhurst and Sir Michael Lord, who were both among the MPs defeated by Mr Bercow in the contest to be Speaker, and Labour’s Sylvia Heal, who did not stand.”


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Opinion: The Wisdom of Clare Short

Written by Rob Hart on 2nd July 2009 – 12:00 pm

Clare Short, in her book, An Honourable Deception?, talks about religious fanaticism. She makes the point that the Iraqi body count website calculates that between the 9/11 bombings and February 2004, there were roughly 3,500 deaths resulting from Islamic extremist attacks on Western targets. In comparison she points out that over 13,000 non-combatant civilians died as a result of the Iraq war, as well as another 3,000 in Afghanistan, and 3,000 Palestinian civilians.

Looking at these figures – and acknowledging that many more Muslims have died in violence in the Balkans, Pakistan, Chechnya – it is easy to see why young Muslims living in these countries have a view of the world that includes a sense that the world values their lives much less than those of, say, me, a typical western male…

Obviously any member of a western government would shout me down were I to make such a claim to their face. Any Western liberal democracy places the utmost value on human life, regardless of race, religion or gender. At least, so any Bill of Rights you care to read would tell you.

But that’s just the point. It’s easy to legislate for a concept, but to live up to that all the time is not easy.

We shouldn’t shy away from the fact that any democratically elected government that values its prospects for re-election jealously protects the lives and interests of its citizens. Couple this very understandable bias with the fact that none of the most powerful and influential governments in the world are Islamic nations and you get the situation that, in any multinational forum – be it the G8 or the UN – it is the interests of the richer, western liberal democracies that are put to the fore not those of the Islamic world.

Look at the Darfur genocide. Were that happening in the UK there would be an overwhelming response, not only to protect those being oppressed, but to bring the oppressors to justice. It is not outside our power to take such actions when these events occur -even in the Sudan, but our governments choose to take less action because there is no reason to take any action other than a moral obligation.

It is this narrow self-interest that is the major driving force behind every country’s foreign policy. However, it is arguably at the root of most of the problems in the world. The fact is that the ‘war on terror’ has killed far more Muslims than it has anyone else. I say that we should forgive the Muslims of the world for thinking that the world doesn’t care about them. Fair point, really. This view is borne out of a dispassionate examination of the facts over the last couple of hundred years.

It is this feeling of impotence in the face of an unjust world that is at least partly driving young Muslims into the arms of extremist recruiters. If we are to overcome these problems, we could do worse than learn lessons from the UK’s attempts over the years to resolve the sectarian problems in Northern Ireland. Read more »


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NEW POLL: is it time to make job applications anonymous?

Written by Stephen Tall on 2nd July 2009 – 10:00 am

Followers of Lib Dem MP Lynne Featherstone’s blog can’t have failed to notice her latest campaign – to bring in mandatory anonymous job applications “to end the subliminal discrimination that creeps in with some applications being discarded because of the names on them.” Specifically Lynne wants employers to remove names and replace them with a number on application letters/forms – otherwise “we end up with people not being discarded from the first sift of applications because their name shows they are black, female or old”. Lynne explained further:

… initial findings [from research by the Department of Work & Pensions] are of significant discrimination. And whilst it is clearly early days and the DWP is going to do more work – it seems clear to me that – first – those who argued there isn’t a problem which needs fixing in particular need to look very closely at what the DWP has been finding, and second – here is a simple proposal which costs business nothing but could actually deliver enormous benefits in removing discrimination in the job market.

Removing such discrimination is not only important in itself – but by providing people with equal opportunities to earn their living, it opens up all sorts of other knock-on benefits in terms of social cohesion and economic efficiency, which we all benefit from.

What do Lib Dem Voice readers think? Is Lynne right to pursue this campaign as the party’s equalities spokesperson? Or do you think it’s unworkable – and, if so, why? Here’s the question:
Do you support the idea of job applications being made anonymous?

And here are your options:

  • Yes, it should be made mandatory for all businesses to remove all discrimination
  • Yes, but it should be voluntary not mandatory for businesses
  • No, this is an unnecessary measure
  • Other [please state in comments]
  • Don’t know
  • Feel free to continue the debate in the comments thread below…


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    Daily View 2×2: 2 July 2009

    Written by Helen Duffett on 2nd July 2009 – 9:18 am

    2 Big Stories

    The news has a state vs public ownership flavour at the moment:

    Passengers to pay price for crisis on the railways
    “A series of big projects are in grave doubt after the collapse of the highest-earning franchise exposed a deepening hole in the rail budget.

    National Express East Coast is to be renationalised after the parent company refused to honour a pledge to pay the Department for Transport £1.4 billion in the years to 2015.

    The DfT will have to accept a much lower sum when it puts the franchise back out to tender and is likely to be forced to pay up to £500 million a year to other rail companies that have been hit by the recession and can recoup most of their losses from the taxpayer.” [Times]

    Sale of Royal Mail stake shelved by ministers [FT]
    Peter Mandelson told peers yesterday that there was “no prospect” of part-privatising Royal Mail at present, despite the postal services bill having already gone through the Lords.

    “Market conditions have made it impossible to find a partner on terms that would make it value for money to the taxpayer,” the business secretary told the Lords. “When market conditions change . . . we will return to the issue.”

    Government insiders admitted that “political reasons” had been behind the decision to shelve the sale.

    2 Must-Read Blog Posts

    % rise!
    Willie Rennie on the real decisions to be made on public finances.

    Garden posters in Norwich North
    More musing on election signage from Nich Starling.


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    Jenny Watson responds to criticism of her speech

    Written by Mark Pack on 1st July 2009 – 10:25 pm

    On Tuesday evening I blogged about the speech given by Jenny Watson, Chair of the Electoral Commission, criticising her comments about turnout in British elections:

    I was rather surprised at the introduction to your speech earlier today to the UCL Constitution Unit where you painted what seems to me a very misleading picture of what is happening to turnout in British elections.

    I appreciate that is a fairly strong criticism, so I hope you won’t mind me justifying it by taking parts of your speech and commenting on them in detail.

    You can read my detailed comments in the original blog post. Today I received a response from her, which she’s given me permission to quote:

    I’ve just been passed your post on LibDem Voice which I read with interest.

    You’re right, of course, that turnout in Wales in the European Parliamentary elections was the second lowest since 1979, not the lowest. Thanks for picking that up. It should have been spotted it at our end, it wasn’t and it has been corrected. We obviously shoudn’t have given the wrong figures.

    But I’m disappointed that you seem to have missed the key point I was making – and indeed made more than once in the speech last night – which is that all of us who are committed to the vital importance of democratic politics and elections, and who want to defend democratic politics as a public good can, in my view, take some comfort from fact that the gloomy predictions about turnout made prior to the elections weren’t fulfilled. I said:

    this turnout, against such a backdrop, does show a continued faith in democratic politics with people wanting to have their voice heard.

    I don’t deny that there are at every election a range of factors which can influence this. As you point out, for example, the combination of a local council election with a General Election clearly makes a big difference. But I simply don’t think that we can always seek to explain or excuse turnout on that basis. The stark fact remains that it is still the case that the UK continues to have lower than average turnout at European Parliament elections. 34% is a lot worse than 43% across Europe as a whole and is something that we shouldn’t just accept. And for turnout to be mostly 40% or below at county council elections simply illustrates the huge challenges we all face as we try to encourage participation in democracy – for our part by ensuring there are no barriers in people’s way when they want to register to vote, and for yours by being active within a political party.

    I hope we can agree on my key thesis: that there is no room for complacency, and that we all need to work to rebuild confidence and commitment to the electoral process.

    Credit is due for responding within 24 hours, which reflects well on the Electoral Commission compared with some of the other people and bodies that have been criticised on this blog in the past.

    As for the gist of the response, I would have rather seen the Commission admit it had painted an inaccurately bleak picture, though I would agree that an accurate picture is still not a happy one.

    It will be interesting to see what comments the Commission makes in future on turnout, and whether the Commission (or any journalists) start reporting the good news, such as rising turnout in London. Not only was turnout in 2009 sharply up (when compared on a like-for-like basis, i.e. with 1999 rather than 2004, when there were other elections on the same day) but it was also sharply up last year in the London Mayor and Assembly election.

    Two years of sharply rising turnout figures in a row? That’s not a story I’ve yet seen anyone else report.


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    Forthcoming PPC selections

    Written by Mark Pack on 1st July 2009 – 10:04 pm

    From the Lib Dems 4 Parliament site, here are the PPC selections closing during July:

    * North East Hampshire – PPC (07 Jul 2009)
    * Basildon and Billericay – PPC (10 Jul 2009)
    * South Basildon & East Thurrock – PPC (10 Jul 2009)
    * Thurrock – PPC (10 Jul 2009)

    See libdems4parliament.org.uk/events/ for more details.


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    PMQs: Nick tackles Gordon on public spending

    Written by Stephen Tall on 1st July 2009 – 6:00 pm

    Apologies, dear reader, but I’ve been busy at work rather than watching Prime Minister’s Questions (so that you don’t have to). I will catch up with it later, but I have read the Hansard transcript. And if today’s PMQs is remembered for anything, I suspect it will be for this quite sublime Prime Ministerial line:

    … total spending will continue to rise, and it will be a zero per cent. rise in 2013–14.

    Yes, you read that right: 0% counts as a rise in total spending in Gordon Brown’s eyes. The Evening Standard’s Paul Waugh (admittedly not a Labour cheerleader) sums up his performance today:

    It was worse than that: it was bad in an inept, jaded, so-grey-I-make-John-Major-look-colourful kinda way. This was a man with the stench of decay around him.

    Don’t forget that the economy and figures are supposed to be Brown’s strong suit. If he turns in a performance like this, it suggests that the only real reason for keeping him – namely a possible economic recovery for which he will claim credit – is disappearing fast.

    If I were a Labour backbencher watching today, I would have my head in my hands.

    That’s certainly how it read.

    When Nick Clegg’s turn came, he also asked about public spending, linking the issue (in his supplementary) to his newly-adopted policy of scrapping the Trident nuclear weapons system. It was in his first question, though, that I think Nick did best, skewering the tortured efforts of both the Labour and Tory parties to avoid levelling with the British public how they will respond to the economics of recession. Full Hansard transcript of Nick’s exchanges with Gordon follow: Read more »


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