Comments on: LDV readers say: a big no to Vince becoming Gordon’s chancellor http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Evans http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76715 David Evans Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:42:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76715 Russ, As per my previous post ... "Now let me see. One of your worst enemies makes an absolute mess of things and you know it’s going to get substantially worse before it levels out. He then offers you the job of being fall guy and taking the blame for him. An absolute no brainer." Russ,

As per my previous post …

“Now let me see. One of your worst enemies makes an absolute mess of things and you know it’s going to get substantially worse before it levels out. He then offers you the job of being fall guy and taking the blame for him.

An absolute no brainer.”

]]> By: Russ http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76559 Russ Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:28:21 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76559 Hi James. For all the fantasy politics involved in discussing this at all, I'm afraid I don't agree with you. Firstly, Dr Cable as Chancellor would be invested with massive power. As Gordon Brown showed, if you control the Treasury then you ARE the veto. It's not as if we're discussing a LibDem being given responsibility for, say, DEFRA. This would be a serious politician being given a serious job. Secondly, you ask what Dr Cable would achieve in cabinet, but I'd rather ask what is he achieving where he is? Nick Clegg is right that he has a front bench of quality, but shadowing Government mistakes is a long way removed from actually making the decisions that govern the country. Hi James. For all the fantasy politics involved in discussing this at all, I’m afraid I don’t agree with you.

Firstly, Dr Cable as Chancellor would be invested with massive power. As Gordon Brown showed, if you control the Treasury then you ARE the veto. It’s not as if we’re discussing a LibDem being given responsibility for, say, DEFRA. This would be a serious politician being given a serious job.

Secondly, you ask what Dr Cable would achieve in cabinet, but I’d rather ask what is he achieving where he is? Nick Clegg is right that he has a front bench of quality, but shadowing Government mistakes is a long way removed from actually making the decisions that govern the country.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76553 Anonymous Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:15:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76553 I don't think for a moment Brown would make such an offer, but if he did it would certainly be something of a poisoned chalice. If he took the job with the party's blessing, it would be portrayed as another Lib-Lab pact. If he took the job without the party's blessing, well ... ! But I think this is definitely in the realm of fantasy politics. I don’t think for a moment Brown would make such an offer, but if he did it would certainly be something of a poisoned chalice.

If he took the job with the party’s blessing, it would be portrayed as another Lib-Lab pact.

If he took the job without the party’s blessing, well … !

But I think this is definitely in the realm of fantasy politics.

]]> By: James Graham http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76547 James Graham Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:52:38 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76547 Russ, come on. The issue is whether Cable could achieve anything by actually doing the job, or whether he would be hopelessly compromised by Gordon Brown and the 20 other cabinet members who would be able to veto every single thing he wanted to do. Yeah, sure, if Brown had a personality transplant and Labour had a policy transplant, then it might be an option. But that aint gonna happen. Russ, come on. The issue is whether Cable could achieve anything by actually doing the job, or whether he would be hopelessly compromised by Gordon Brown and the 20 other cabinet members who would be able to veto every single thing he wanted to do.

Yeah, sure, if Brown had a personality transplant and Labour had a policy transplant, then it might be an option. But that aint gonna happen.

]]> By: Russ http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76546 Russ Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:46:28 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76546 There is a consensus that Dr Cable would be the best Chancellor for Britain at the moment, inside the LibDems and outside. So why would such a healthy majority of us oppose the idea that he could join up and apply his obvious abilities in Government? Is it really sensible for us to look at the UK in economic crisis and insist that Dr Cable sits on the sidelines, sniping away while the economy heads downward? What's more important, safeguarding jobs or making Labour look silly with a well-aimed press release? There is a consensus that Dr Cable would be the best Chancellor for Britain at the moment, inside the LibDems and outside. So why would such a healthy majority of us oppose the idea that he could join up and apply his obvious abilities in Government? Is it really sensible for us to look at the UK in economic crisis and insist that Dr Cable sits on the sidelines, sniping away while the economy heads downward? What’s more important, safeguarding jobs or making Labour look silly with a well-aimed press release?

]]> By: James Graham http://www.libdemvoice.org/ldv-readers-say-a-big-no-to-vince-becoming-gordons-chancellor-10252.html#comment-76523 James Graham Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:58:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=10252#comment-76523 It is fascinating the difference a week makes. Last week, the rightwingers were calling Cable Brown's poodle for going along with everything he says. Now they're claiming that Brown just goes along with whatever Gideon Osborne says. If confidently expect Oborne to now predict Brown will now be replacing Darling with the <a href="http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/14/which-of-these-two-characters-would-you-most-trust-with-the-economy/" rel="nofollow">Annoying Talking Donkey</a>. It is fascinating the difference a week makes. Last week, the rightwingers were calling Cable Brown’s poodle for going along with everything he says. Now they’re claiming that Brown just goes along with whatever Gideon Osborne says.

If confidently expect Oborne to now predict Brown will now be replacing Darling with the Annoying Talking Donkey.

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