Comments on: LDV readers say: we’re luke-warm about Obama

By: Alex Sabine

Alex Sabine — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:14 +0000

I’m not sure he’s a liberal either, although I suspect my concerns are different to Geoffrey’s: namely, Obama’s vascillations over free trade (which should be non-negotiable for liberals and internationalists) and a somewhat interventionist bent on economics.

However I do think he comes across as a humane, likeable and intelligent person. And he is certainly more liberal on social matters than McCain and indeed most Democrats (hence the slightly misleading characterisation of him as the most ‘liberal’ or left-wing senator).

There is also an attractive libertarian streak to his thinking on immigration, on standing up for the individual against bureaucracies and (hopefully) on school choice.

Overall, I’d say he is ‘progressive’ in a general sense but not a liberal as such (at least in the European meaning of that word).

I can’t agree with Asquith that Edwards would have been a better choice for the Democrats. He was the most protectionist of all the candidates from the two main parties (disastrous from an international perspective), he was populist in his pandering to the unions and he didn’t seem particularly interested in personal freedom – pretty reactionary sentiments in my view.

It’s already worrying how much the Democrats have abandoned the free-trade and fiscally sensible policies of the 1990s and Edwards was threatening to veer much further away from them.

By: Geoffrey Payne

Geoffrey Payne — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:08:27 +0000

I wish him the best.
The problem in the US is that there are considerably more people who identify themselves as conservative rather than liberal.
So I am not sure he is a liberal. I am concerned at his foreign policies in particular. I hope he turns out to be liberal after he is elected.
What I do like is the way he has mobilised lots of people who have never been politically active before. I hope that benefits the Democrats for years to come. It is also noticable that voters under 30 are going for him in a big way. Hopefully this is a generation gap that will isolate Conservatives in the same way that the generations subsequent to the 1960s beat the Conservatives in the UK in 1997.

By: asquith

asquith — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:22:53 +0000

In short, the Obamamaniacs will hopefully put their passion to good use in future, as Blair’s supporters conspicuously didn’t once they realised that he couldn’t satisfy their needs.

By: asquith

asquith — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:21:49 +0000

Obama would be very cautious as president, & would certainly do little or nothing to move the country in a more progressive direction as Edwards would have done. His devotees are in for a big disappointment. I hope it doesn’t drive them to cynicism: yes, they shouldn’t put their trust in politicians, but they should hopefully remain passionate about the issues.

At the moment, party politics has not caught up with the interests of the younger generation as it was designed for an earlier age in which people were conservatives of one form or another (settlers if you like). I hope that when the disillusionment about politicians comes, it will drive the elite to catch up with us rather than breed negativity about “politics”, which will simply allow the likes of Brown to do whatever they like while a load of vegetables sit around uncomplainingly, satiated by plasma screen TVs.