Comments on: Lib Dem chief whip broke Parliamentary rules http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:55:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Terry Gilbert http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-56135 Terry Gilbert Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:35:25 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-56135 While this is pretty minor compared to say, employing your son to do no work at at all and paying him from public funds, it is still disappointing in a Liberal Democrat MP. The party ought to condemn it. While this is pretty minor compared to say, employing your son to do no work at at all and paying him from public funds, it is still disappointing in a Liberal Democrat MP. The party ought to condemn it.

]]> By: Hywel Morgan http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55886 Hywel Morgan Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:04:09 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55886 We promote it as best practice for sitting MPs so it's very common! That's way I was curious to see what was sent out as the BBC referred to material attacking Paul's tory opponent. AIUI the rules were that you could only produce stuff this way covering the MPs work "as an MP." We promote it as best practice for sitting MPs so it’s very common! That’s way I was curious to see what was sent out as the BBC referred to material attacking Paul’s tory opponent. AIUI the rules were that you could only produce stuff this way covering the MPs work “as an MP.”

]]> By: Annoymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55883 Annoymous Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:24:53 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55883 Charles Clarke included an annual report leaflet with a letter in pre-paid house of commons envelopes. So this appears to be pretty common practice by some MPs in all parties. Charles Clarke included an annual report leaflet with a letter in pre-paid house of commons envelopes. So this appears to be pretty common practice by some MPs in all parties.

]]> By: Neale Upstone http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55865 Neale Upstone Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:26:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55865 Interesting to note how much the LD opposition want to complain about such a mistake over £1500, when neither the Tories or Lab are keen to do the right thing and get rid of the ridiculous vested interests in allowing multi-million pound donations from the likes of Sainsbury and Ashworth (who, "just coincidentally", were also made peers). http://politicalfundingwatch.blogspot.com Interesting to note how much the LD opposition want to complain about such a mistake over £1500, when neither the Tories or Lab are keen to do the right thing and get rid of the ridiculous vested interests in allowing multi-million pound donations from the likes of Sainsbury and Ashworth (who, “just coincidentally”, were also made peers).

http://politicalfundingwatch.blogspot.com

]]> By: Julian H http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55839 Julian H Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:55:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55839 Scampi - yesterday you were arguing that no LD misdemeanors ever appear on this site. Now you're moaning that this one is "late" and that there should be more comments. Why should there be more comments? Some threads only get one or two comments. Furthermore, it's Sunday bloody evening. If I were you I'd drop this bizarre obsession and note the correct spelling of "hypocrisy". Scampi – yesterday you were arguing that no LD misdemeanors ever appear on this site.

Now you’re moaning that this one is “late” and that there should be more comments. Why should there be more comments? Some threads only get one or two comments. Furthermore, it’s Sunday bloody evening.

If I were you I’d drop this bizarre obsession and note the correct spelling of “hypocrisy”.

]]> By: scampi http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55835 scampi Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:18:21 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55835 Given the wave of criticism of othe party's MPs who 'slip up' it's a wonder to see how late this one appeared on the site and the small numbr of condemnatory comments. The hypocracy of the LDs never ceases to astonish!! Given the wave of criticism of othe party’s MPs who ‘slip up’ it’s a wonder to see how late this one appeared on the site and the small numbr of condemnatory comments. The hypocracy of the LDs never ceases to astonish!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55806 Anonymous Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:25:41 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55806 "This seems to have been at least his third “minor error” in the last frour years or so." Just curious - what were the other two (or more)? “This seems to have been at least his third “minor error” in the last frour years or so.”

Just curious – what were the other two (or more)?

]]> By: Paul http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55803 Paul Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:04:09 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55803 Alasdair This seems to have been at least his third "minor error" in the last frour years or so. Alasdair

This seems to have been at least his third “minor error” in the last frour years or so.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55801 Anonymous Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:58:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55801 Paul Burstow's statement is here: http://tinyurl.com/6z53xz Paul Burstow’s statement is here:
http://tinyurl.com/6z53xz

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55798 Anonymous Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:49:50 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55798 What was being sent was a letter to new voters and an "annual report" leaflet. The BBC report says: "Mr Lyon ruled that the material, sent between January 2007 and June this year, should not have been sent in pre-paid Commons envelopes ... But he said the Lib Dem MP could legitimately have charged the cost of sending the letters against his parliamentary allowances." So as I understand it the letters could have been charged to his allowance (but shouldn't have been sent in Commons envelopes) but the leaflet couldn't. What was being sent was a letter to new voters and an “annual report” leaflet.

The BBC report says:
“Mr Lyon ruled that the material, sent between January 2007 and June this year, should not have been sent in pre-paid Commons envelopes … But he said the Lib Dem MP could legitimately have charged the cost of sending the letters against his parliamentary allowances.”

So as I understand it the letters could have been charged to his allowance (but shouldn’t have been sent in Commons envelopes) but the leaflet couldn’t.

]]> By: Alasdair http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55797 Alasdair Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:46:57 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55797 It was as he said an accident that he stopped when he found out that it was being done. Also it was a cost of £1,500 to the taxpayer, which he has offered to pay back. This is virtually a minor error, especially compared with the scandals from the labour and tory benches. Mr. Bustrow has responded correctly. It was as he said an accident that he stopped when he found out that it was being done. Also it was a cost of £1,500 to the taxpayer, which he has offered to pay back. This is virtually a minor error, especially compared with the scandals from the labour and tory benches. Mr. Bustrow has responded correctly.

]]> By: Hywel Morgan http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55796 Hywel Morgan Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:11:22 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55796 What was actually being sent out? I don't see why MPs should be able to send out overt campaigning material and get the taxpayers to pay for it. What was actually being sent out? I don’t see why MPs should be able to send out overt campaigning material and get the taxpayers to pay for it.

]]> By: Grammar PCSO http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55795 Grammar PCSO Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:11:17 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55795 You mean like Cameron and Spelman? We live in hope. You mean like Cameron and Spelman? We live in hope.

]]> By: scampi http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55791 scampi Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:54:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55791 We wait for Clegg to sack him! We don't hold our breath! We wait for Clegg to sack him! We don’t hold our breath!

]]> By: Cheltenham Robin http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-chief-whip-broke-parliamentary-rules-3009.html#comment-55789 Cheltenham Robin Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:23:38 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=3009#comment-55789 You only have to look at the expenses for postage when they are published to see those MPs who are really abusing the freepost system. Some of the bills have been for tens of thousands of pounds and no way represent just replies to casework. You only have to look at the expenses for postage when they are published to see those MPs who are really abusing the freepost system.

Some of the bills have been for tens of thousands of pounds and no way represent just replies to casework.

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