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	<title>Comments on: Lib Dem councillor expelled over police assault charges</title>
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		<title>By: adrian whittaker</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-106018</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian whittaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi to all people on here i do not like what this blog is sayen about myself i resinged from the lib group on my own acored i am still a lib dem if any person wishes to know more please fill free to get in touch with me mr barton appoligised the the iw exc as for cllr barry nothing forth comming i am maken a complaint to the standers committee on monday if there is other cllrs on here alll what you are saying is idele and not true it was a simply spiiting incident that hit a police officer and i will take the apropiate action withh any othere cllr on this site thankyou cllr a whittaker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi to all people on here i do not like what this blog is sayen about myself i resinged from the lib group on my own acored i am still a lib dem if any person wishes to know more please fill free to get in touch with me mr barton appoligised the the iw exc as for cllr barry nothing forth comming i am maken a complaint to the standers committee on monday if there is other cllrs on here alll what you are saying is idele and not true it was a simply spiiting incident that hit a police officer and i will take the apropiate action withh any othere cllr on this site thankyou cllr a whittaker</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-106016</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Wakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that these comments are based upon a newspaper report and off the cuff comments from members who had no direct or immediate knowledge of what had taken place.
It is a matter of record that the Isle of Wight Executive did not suspend Cllr Whittaker from the party and determined &#039;no action should be taken at this time&#039;.  This position will be reviewed after the scheduled court hearing.
Cllr Whittaker chose to stand down from the Lib Dem Group on the Isle of Wight Council - he was not expelled, he also withdrew from committees although he continues to represent the interests of his constituents.  Similarly Cllr Whittaker also stood down from Ryde Town Council groups where he was an appointed Council representative.  All of these actions were voluntary and will be open to review after the court hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that these comments are based upon a newspaper report and off the cuff comments from members who had no direct or immediate knowledge of what had taken place.<br />
It is a matter of record that the Isle of Wight Executive did not suspend Cllr Whittaker from the party and determined &#8216;no action should be taken at this time&#8217;.  This position will be reviewed after the scheduled court hearing.<br />
Cllr Whittaker chose to stand down from the Lib Dem Group on the Isle of Wight Council &#8211; he was not expelled, he also withdrew from committees although he continues to represent the interests of his constituents.  Similarly Cllr Whittaker also stood down from Ryde Town Council groups where he was an appointed Council representative.  All of these actions were voluntary and will be open to review after the court hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102706</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not policy making by evidence Colin, that&#039;s policy making by anecdote and prejudice.  The sort of thing you rail against when it comes to drugs policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not policy making by evidence Colin, that&#8217;s policy making by anecdote and prejudice.  The sort of thing you rail against when it comes to drugs policy.</p>
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		<title>By: ColinW</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102635</link>
		<dc:creator>ColinW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hywel - the police lie all the time. Ask Jan Charles de Menezes,   Oh wait a minute you can&#039;t because he has eight police bullets in his head for being brown. And didn;t they tell the truth about that too.

Barton should STFU or back our man against the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hywel &#8211; the police lie all the time. Ask Jan Charles de Menezes,   Oh wait a minute you can&#8217;t because he has eight police bullets in his head for being brown. And didn;t they tell the truth about that too.</p>
<p>Barton should STFU or back our man against the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102626</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Suspended pending resolution of the court case” is all this called for.

Possibly - but it might be that there is admitted conduct which, although short of criminal conviction, brings the party into clear disrepute.  That could (in theory, though there are difficulties in practice) be dealt with prior to a criminal conviction.

@ColinW - don&#039;t you go on about evidence based policy making?  Obviously not when attacks on the police are involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Suspended pending resolution of the court case” is all this called for.</p>
<p>Possibly &#8211; but it might be that there is admitted conduct which, although short of criminal conviction, brings the party into clear disrepute.  That could (in theory, though there are difficulties in practice) be dealt with prior to a criminal conviction.</p>
<p>@ColinW &#8211; don&#8217;t you go on about evidence based policy making?  Obviously not when attacks on the police are involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102621</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

Thank you. I should have read it properly before commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>Thank you. I should have read it properly before commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102620</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cllr Whittaker had been expelled from the group&quot; is your answer Herbert. Not expelled from the party so far, but expelled from the council group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cllr Whittaker had been expelled from the group&#8221; is your answer Herbert. Not expelled from the party so far, but expelled from the council group.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Griffiths</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102619</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expulsion (surely suspension?) from the group is one thing. But expelling someone from the party is a serious business and can’t be done at the drop of a hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expulsion (surely suspension?) from the group is one thing. But expelling someone from the party is a serious business and can’t be done at the drop of a hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102618</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or does the report not actually say he was expelled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does the report not actually say he was expelled?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Suffield</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102616</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Suffield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expelled over an allegation? That seems a bit judgemental. I would have expected them to wait for a conviction. &quot;Suspended pending resolution of the court case&quot; is all this called for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expelled over an allegation? That seems a bit judgemental. I would have expected them to wait for a conviction. &#8220;Suspended pending resolution of the court case&#8221; is all this called for.</p>
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		<title>By: ColinW</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/lib-dem-councillor-expelled-over-police-assault-charges-16979.html#comment-102614</link>
		<dc:creator>ColinW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, makes a nice change from reading about police attacks on peaceful protests, the 1000 deaths in police custody over the last 30 years &amp; the impunity the uniformed thugs enjoy. I&#039;m sure the copper deserved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, makes a nice change from reading about police attacks on peaceful protests, the 1000 deaths in police custody over the last 30 years &amp; the impunity the uniformed thugs enjoy. I&#8217;m sure the copper deserved it.</p>
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