Comments on: New figures reveal which candidates do the most campaigning

By: The average local election candidate did 20 hours of campaigning a week! « Philip Ling

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:15:42 +0000

[...] Dems, Tory That’s a lot! Almost half a working week. This is based on research by the Electoral Commission, although it may be skewed by candidates who are retired as they have more time to [...]

By: Mark Pack

Mark Pack — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:28:03 +0000

Rantersparadise: actually, I think the fact that Teek, Jo and KL all found things in the piece they wanted to talk about is a pretty good indication that it is a story

I suspect that most people heavily involved in party politics will indeed be unsurprised by the amount of voluntary effort candidates put in – but I also think that the public overall would greatly underestimate the number of hours if asked to guess. (I’ve not seen any direct data on this though.)

By: rantersparadise

rantersparadise — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:44:29 +0000

“Even so, the amount of hours that candidates of all parties put in is impressive – and a reflection of the voluntary hard work that often goes unrecognised but is vital to making our democracy meaningful.”

Huh? Oh look over there, I can see pigs flying…

I’m with Teek, Jo and KL here. It’s a non story.

We should try and use more internet campaigning because that’s how the independents (inc Greens) creep in and get a lot of voters that would be swayed to vote for us.

By: Mark Pack

Mark Pack — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:04:29 +0000

Malcolm: the survey also covered issues about where candidates get advice on election law matters, how useful the find the Electoral Commission’s publications etc – all sensible questions to ask in order to help the EC improve its work in those areas. I don’t know what the marginal cost was of adding in these extra questions, but I expect it was fairly low. If so, I think it’s reasonable as a way of adding to the background knowledge about how electoral systems work in practice. If not, then I agree with you.

By: Malcolm Todd

Malcolm Todd — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:56:06 +0000

Okay, I’m not usually one of the ‘how dare they spend public money on anything but wheelie-bins (and by the way wheel-bins are horrible)’ brigade, but – what the hell are the Electoral Commission doing wasting our money on a survey like this? It simply isn’t germane to their function, as far as I can see.

By: Peter1919

Peter1919 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:49:57 +0000

@Cllr Robert Bleakley, don;t forget this is across all candidates and we field far more ‘paper’ candidates than the other two main parties plus it only says a campaign leaflet i.e. one not lots like we do in our target seats. It really doesn’t suprise me that the Tories well funded party that they are can afford to produce, print and deliver at least one leaflet for most of their candidates. I’m actually pretty happy that we are ahead of Labour on this measure.

By: anon

anon — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:03:23 +0000

Ps. Cllr robert – I like your positivity and enthusiasm. Good luck to you sir!

By: anon

anon — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:59:49 +0000

Tories campaign in non target wards at election time we generally don’t. A strength for us in terms of our targeting strategy, a weakness in terms of our national profile.

By: Tom Papworth

Tom Papworth — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:23:47 +0000

If only they could list PPCs and how much campaigning they have done.

It’d be a good way to hold them to account.

By: Jo

Jo — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:05:29 +0000

KL – for a good picture of education background employment status, age and gender consult any book on the last GE – of course you’d have to generalise over the last 4 years but it’s still good data

By: KL

KL — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:01:54 +0000

I think the Tory leaflet figure can be explained quite easily – Ashcroft money. Where the Lib Dems tend not to issue leaflets in no-hope seats, and Labour tend not to issue leaflets at all, the Tories can afford to do it and – perhaps more significantly – afford to pay for someone to do it for them, so even if they are employed full time they can still get the leaflets out. This would impact on satisfaction too – if I could pay someone to design, print and deliver all the leaflets in my ward I’d be over the moon!

I’d be interested though in a survey which covered the age and employment status of the candidates. Now that might be revealing…

By: Jo

Jo — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:36:11 +0000

Teek – I think that is a good point – also the enjoyment of campaigning – if you can only canvass after work or at weekends then your enjoyment won’t be as high as a self-employed tory who can easily rejig their day to accommodate a few hours of canvassing then carry on working at home in the evening.

Perhaps it’s spin as they want so much to win the General Election! It depends how they interact with people on the doorstep. Maybe Labour canvassers get more involved in the conversation to extract casework then find that that brings its own stress…whereas Tory canvassers just knock say hi hand a leaflet then say bye…which is the easy option…

By: saltirethinking

saltirethinking — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:50:21 +0000

Just seen a story about Bubbles Lamont on BBC Scotland.Now there’s a man who campaigns…. mostly with public money.

By: Simon

Simon — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:46:30 +0000

I would hope in wards where we do monthly Focus we would have more volunter delivers so candidates would spend significantly less time delivering leaflets. A Tory County Councillor in most parts of Norfolk does one leaflet every four years so propably spends a lot of time putting it out themselves in the month or two running up to the campaign.

By: Teek

Teek — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:50 +0000

Without wishing to make sweeping generalisations about candidates from different parties (moi…?!), I wonder how much of the first two points are accounted for by the employment status of the candidate in question – i.e. are Conservatives just more likely to choose candidates who are self-emlpoyed or have more time/money on their hands, and that the other parties choose folk with jobs etc who simply cannot dedicate as much personal resource to the campaign, but who could once they’re elected.

Just a thought…

By: Cllr Robert Bleakley

Cllr Robert Bleakley — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:07:58 +0000

I find the first point very stranage. I would have at least have thought that the Lib Dems would be top of the poll here as we are the party of “community politics” and put all sorts of campaign literature through doors. In my ward (Tyldesley, Wigan Council) we do monthly Focus leaflets, street specials and surveys etc. It’s hard work but its worth it seeing that we now have the highest vote within Wigan borough.

Don’t forget the David Penhaligan quote: “If you have something to say put it on a leaflet and put it through a letter box”