Comments on: UPDATED: PPC news: Winchester & Woking select http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe Taylor http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1751 Joe Taylor Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:32:58 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1751 Whoever this MPDAWE chap is he/she should realise that there is <i>no</i> Tory marginal that can be considered "in the bag" yet. Make no mistake, UKIP will be after blood (Cameron's) at the next election and nothing would delight them more to act as spoilers for the Tories in <i>every</i> marginal seat. Also, don't let national polls fool you. The average voting intention of 646 constituencies tells you nothing about the 20 you need to win off us! A final point. <a href="http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/winchester" rel="nofollow">Winchester is Tory target no. 142.</a> Please feel free to waste as much money as you like there, because the <i>excellent</i> Martin Tod is going to be their next MP. Whoever this MPDAWE chap is he/she should realise that there is no Tory marginal that can be considered “in the bag” yet. Make no mistake, UKIP will be after blood (Cameron’s) at the next election and nothing would delight them more to act as spoilers for the Tories in every marginal seat.

Also, don’t let national polls fool you. The average voting intention of 646 constituencies tells you nothing about the 20 you need to win off us!

A final point. Winchester is Tory target no. 142. Please feel free to waste as much money as you like there, because the excellent Martin Tod is going to be their next MP.

]]> By: hywelmorgan http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1743 hywelmorgan Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:59:24 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1743 Why shouldn't they forget Mark Oaten. The voters seemed to forget Harvey Proctor pretty rapidly after all - whose failings were of an order of magnitude greater. (Con 53.7% in 83 54.9% in 87 - even though Proctor was charged with and pleaded guilty to gross indecency just before the election) Why shouldn’t they forget Mark Oaten. The voters seemed to forget Harvey Proctor pretty rapidly after all – whose failings were of an order of magnitude greater. (Con 53.7% in 83 54.9% in 87 – even though Proctor was charged with and pleaded guilty to gross indecency just before the election)

]]> By: Angus J Huck http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1738 Angus J Huck Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:18:36 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1738 Threre is a crucial difference between MPDAWE and Mark Oaten. Mark may be a walking embarrassment when he discusses his private life in public, but one thing he most certainly is not is a coward. MPDAWE, on the other hand, is an operator so craven that he hides behind the cloak of anonymity. A kind of overgrown playground sneak who spreads gossip and ill-will behind everyone's backs. But, like most amateur auguries, he lacks crucial knowledge. You see, I actually lived in Guildford for 19 years and know something about the town. About the presence of a large education sector, which continues to expand. (Few educational professionals vote Tory - I wonder why?) The electorate is beginning to tire of Cameron, as people see him for what he is - behind the vapid media creation stands an arrogant Etonian toff. Already, the polls are picking this up. And when Cameron fails, boy are the members going to turn on him! Gosh. Wouldn't it have been wonderful if the Tories had elected Reginald Maudling leader instead of Ted Heath? Then we'd have had Lord Poulson of West Clandon. Hug a Tory? Yuck! By the way, would MPDAWE prefer the last Tory MP for Winchester but one - the one who infected his wife with venereal disease then sued her for her assets? Threre is a crucial difference between MPDAWE and Mark Oaten.

Mark may be a walking embarrassment when he discusses his private life in public, but one thing he most certainly is not is a coward.

MPDAWE, on the other hand, is an operator so craven that he hides behind the cloak of anonymity. A kind of overgrown playground sneak who spreads gossip and ill-will behind everyone’s backs.

But, like most amateur auguries, he lacks crucial knowledge. You see, I actually lived in Guildford for 19 years and know something about the town. About the presence of a large education sector, which continues to expand. (Few educational professionals vote Tory – I wonder why?) The electorate is beginning to tire of Cameron, as people see him for what he is – behind the vapid media creation stands an arrogant Etonian toff. Already, the polls are picking this up. And when Cameron fails, boy are the members going to turn on him!

Gosh. Wouldn’t it have been wonderful if the Tories had elected Reginald Maudling leader instead of Ted Heath? Then we’d have had Lord Poulson of West Clandon.

Hug a Tory? Yuck!

By the way, would MPDAWE prefer the last Tory MP for Winchester but one – the one who infected his wife with venereal disease then sued her for her assets?

]]> By: Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1657 Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:02:57 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1657 Sadly, I don't think people will forget Oaten for a very long time. And David Cameron is more popular with Lib Dem voters than Sir Ming. Tactical voting will harm you at this election, as you'll be severely squeezed to stop Brown. Your win in Guildford was an anomaly - it's now Conservative again and is unlikely to change any time soon. Solihull will come back, too. Sadly, I don’t think people will forget Oaten for a very long time. And David Cameron is more popular with Lib Dem voters than Sir Ming. Tactical voting will harm you at this election, as you’ll be severely squeezed to stop Brown. Your win in Guildford was an anomaly – it’s now Conservative again and is unlikely to change any time soon. Solihull will come back, too.

]]> By: Neil http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1649 Neil Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:03:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1649 Yup. Looking forward to working with Martin. He is just what Winchester needs. Yup. Looking forward to working with Martin. He is just what Winchester needs.

]]> By: David Spender http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1647 David Spender Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:42 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1647 Most Ventans (?) are bright enough to realise that Mark Oaten and the Liberal Democrats are not the same thing. Angus, you're absolutely right and Martin will be a great candidate to get that message across. The word, by the way, is "Wintonians"! Most Ventans (?) are bright enough to realise that Mark Oaten and the Liberal Democrats are not the same thing.

Angus, you’re absolutely right and Martin will be a great candidate to get that message across. The word, by the way, is “Wintonians”!

]]> By: Angus J Huck http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1646 Angus J Huck Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:28:45 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1646 MPDAWE lays bare his ignorance. The new Winchester Parliamentary Constituency is smaller and more compact. It is based on the town, where Lib Dem support is strongest, and excludes the Meon Valley, which is heavily Conservative. If MPDAWE is alluding to the possibility of an "Oaten effect", then he should be careful. Mark Oaten has stepped aside three years ahead of the next General Election. He has given plenty of time for Martin Tod to establish himself and for the local party to recover. Also, Mark will continue with his constituency duties right up to the wire. Most Ventans (?) are bright enough to realise that Mark Oaten and the Liberal Democrats are not the same thing. While Woking is an unlikely Lib Dem gain, it should not be discounted. Remember neighbouring Guildford? Or the demographically very similar Solihull? MPDAWE lays bare his ignorance. The new Winchester Parliamentary Constituency is smaller and more compact. It is based on the town, where Lib Dem support is strongest, and excludes the Meon Valley, which is heavily Conservative. If MPDAWE is alluding to the possibility of an “Oaten effect”, then he should be careful. Mark Oaten has stepped aside three years ahead of the next General Election. He has given plenty of time for Martin Tod to establish himself and for the local party to recover. Also, Mark will continue with his constituency duties right up to the wire. Most Ventans (?) are bright enough to realise that Mark Oaten and the Liberal Democrats are not the same thing.

While Woking is an unlikely Lib Dem gain, it should not be discounted. Remember neighbouring Guildford? Or the demographically very similar Solihull?

]]> By: Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1628 Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections Sun, 03 Dec 2006 13:36:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1628 I doubt it; both will be blue - with big majorities. I doubt it; both will be blue – with big majorities.

]]> By: Antony Hook http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1627 Antony Hook Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:59:05 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/martin-tod-to-follow-in-mark-oatens-footsteps-as-it-were-308.html#comment-1627 Two very good candidates in two seats that could certainly both be won by Lib Dems next time. Very good news indeed. Two very good candidates in two seats that could certainly both be won by Lib Dems next time. Very good news indeed.

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