Comments on: Menzies Campbell’s new year message: “I’m listening” http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:46:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tony Greaves http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-3054 Tony Greaves Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:38:58 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-3054 What nasty people come here and claim to be Tories! But if they cannot even use their ordinary names I for one wil reagrad them as being the smelly flotsam that they obviously are! Tony Greaves What nasty people come here and claim to be Tories! But if they cannot even use their ordinary names I for one wil reagrad them as being the smelly flotsam that they obviously are!

Tony Greaves

]]> By: It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-3028 It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:56:15 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-3028 Switch to Win, Win for Britain! Switch to Win, Win for Britain!

]]> By: Facts please http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-3023 Facts please Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:24:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-3023 Adrian Childs has never been a Liberal Democrat candidate: did you mean Adrian Graves? Adrian Childs has never been a Liberal Democrat candidate: did you mean Adrian Graves?

]]> By: Paul Griffiths http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2980 Paul Griffiths Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:46:08 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2980 In future, can we agree to just ignore the trolls, rather than give them the oxygen of publicity? In future, can we agree to just ignore the trolls, rather than give them the oxygen of publicity?

]]> By: It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2975 It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:14:29 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2975 Fair enough. Fair enough.

]]> By: Rob Fenwick http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2974 Rob Fenwick Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:40:12 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2974 I can't say - didn't even <em>read</em> any quotes then :) I can’t say – didn’t even read any quotes then :)

]]> By: It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2973 It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:37:52 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2973 "I’m not going to comment on their “quotes” as they’re blatantly written by a Tory press officer", says Rob. Well, the Lib Dems never did that with Aitken, Cranfield-Adams, Dykes, Emmerson, Thurnham et al, did they? “I’m not going to comment on their “quotes” as they’re blatantly written by a Tory press officer”, says Rob. Well, the Lib Dems never did that with Aitken, Cranfield-Adams, Dykes, Emmerson, Thurnham et al, did they?

]]> By: Rob Fenwick http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2970 Rob Fenwick Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:30:59 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2970 I know one of them and can't say I'm suprised as he only ever saw the party as a vehicle for self-promotion. Well, good luck to the three of them - switching parties is never an easy business, and takes a certain amount of bravery. I'm not going to comment on their "quotes" as they're blatantly written by a Tory press officer. I know one of them and can’t say I’m suprised as he only ever saw the party as a vehicle for self-promotion.

Well, good luck to the three of them – switching parties is never an easy business, and takes a certain amount of bravery. I’m not going to comment on their “quotes” as they’re blatantly written by a Tory press officer.

]]> By: It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2968 It's a two-horse race - the Lib Dems can't win here! Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:12:30 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2968 Friday, December 29, 2006 Three More LibDem Candidates Join Conservatives It's not a good day for the LibDems. They are at their lowest poll ratings in months - 14% with Communicate Research today - and it's just been announved that three Liberal Democrats who stood in the 2005 General Election as parliamentary candidates have today joined the Conservative Party. This makes a total of six former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary candidates to join the Conservatives in the last 12 months. Richard Porter stood in Camberwell and Peckham in 2005 and wrote the Liberal Democrat manifesto for the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender community in the 2005 general election. Richard said: “Ming Campbell is a ‘has-been’ and since he has been in control of the party, they have been stuck firmly in reverse gear. After the election, I took time out to reflect on my own personal beliefs and values. Previously I thought that these values were best represented by the Liberal Democrats but I now believe that the principles of freedom from state interference, personal freedom, the environment and civil liberties are all areas where the Conservative Party leads the way. John Barstow, a shop steward for USDAW and Liberal Democrat PPC in Tonbridge and Malling in 2005 said: "I have joined the Conservative Party because I sincerely believe David Cameron is the right person to be Prime Minister. And that I am a natural Conservative in the great One Nation tradition, proudly conserving what is best and well tried and taking decisive action to eradicate black spots of despair and unemployment within the United Kingdom. The Liberal Democrats are bland, formulaic and out of touch with real life." Dr Tariq Mahmood, a physician, consultant gastroenterologist and honorary senior lecturer at the University of London, stood in Uxbridge as the Liberal Democrat candidate in 2005. He also works as a TV presenter on the ARY Digital channel. Tariq said: “Under the leadership of David Cameron I have seen that the Party is moving forward. There is now a real possibility for the Conservative Party. During the course of 2006 three former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary candidates have joined the Conservatives. Today’s recruits make six in all, joining Adrian Childs, former Liberal Democrat candidate for West Suffolk, Jeff Clarke, former Liberal Democrat candidate for West Wirral, and Rene Kinsett, former Liberal Democrat candidate for Swansea West. Friday, December 29, 2006
Three More LibDem Candidates Join Conservatives

It’s not a good day for the LibDems. They are at their lowest poll ratings in months – 14% with Communicate Research today – and it’s just been announved that three Liberal Democrats who stood in the 2005 General Election as parliamentary candidates have today joined the Conservative Party. This makes a total of six former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary candidates to join the Conservatives in the last 12 months.

Richard Porter stood in Camberwell and Peckham in 2005 and wrote the Liberal Democrat manifesto for the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender community in the 2005 general election. Richard said: “Ming Campbell is a ‘has-been’ and since he has been in control of the party, they have been stuck firmly in reverse gear. After the election, I took time out to reflect on my own personal beliefs and values. Previously I thought that these values were best represented by the Liberal Democrats but I now believe that the principles of freedom from state interference, personal freedom, the environment and civil liberties are all areas where the Conservative Party leads the way.

John Barstow, a shop steward for USDAW and Liberal Democrat PPC in Tonbridge and Malling in 2005 said: “I have joined the Conservative Party because I sincerely believe David Cameron is the right person to be Prime Minister. And that I am a natural Conservative in the great One Nation tradition, proudly conserving what is best and well tried and taking decisive action to eradicate black spots of despair and unemployment within the United Kingdom. The Liberal Democrats are bland, formulaic and out of touch with real life.”

Dr Tariq Mahmood, a physician, consultant gastroenterologist and honorary senior lecturer at the University of London, stood in Uxbridge as the Liberal Democrat candidate in 2005. He also works as a TV presenter on the ARY Digital channel. Tariq said: “Under the leadership of David Cameron I have seen that the Party is moving forward. There is now a real possibility for the Conservative Party.

During the course of 2006 three former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary candidates have joined the Conservatives. Today’s recruits make six in all, joining Adrian Childs, former Liberal Democrat candidate for West Suffolk, Jeff Clarke, former Liberal Democrat candidate for West Wirral, and Rene Kinsett, former Liberal Democrat candidate for Swansea West.

]]> By: ColinW http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2862 ColinW Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:50:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2862 How about Tory fuckwit? How about Tory fuckwit?

]]> By: Angus J Huck http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2861 Angus J Huck Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:44:25 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2861 Gosh! Our Tory friend is old enough to remember Norman Scott's dog. And here was I thinking he was suffering a bad attack of nappy rash! Gosh! Our Tory friend is old enough to remember Norman Scott’s dog. And here was I thinking he was suffering a bad attack of nappy rash!

]]> By: Cameron - the wrong choice http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2859 Cameron - the wrong choice Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:58:30 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2859 How about "Tory Nutter"? How about “Tory Nutter”?

]]> By: Change to? http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2858 Change to? Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:54:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2858 So much for liberalism ! So much for liberalism !

]]> By: Change to? http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2857 Change to? Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:53:33 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2857 From MPDAWEs. From MPDAWEs.

]]> By: Change to? http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2856 Change to? Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:53:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2856 Hello Rob, So what do you think I should change my name to? Cheeky Passport? Mark Oaten's toilet cleaner? Mantalk? Highlands’s whiskey? I'd be a suicide bomber if I lived in Palestine? Michael Brown? Be a councillor to employ a cleaner? Ban competitive sports? I shoot dogs? Advice, please. Hello Rob,

So what do you think I should change my name to?

Cheeky Passport?

Mark Oaten’s toilet cleaner?

Mantalk?

Highlands’s whiskey?

I’d be a suicide bomber if I lived in Palestine?

Michael Brown?

Be a councillor to employ a cleaner?

Ban competitive sports?

I shoot dogs?

Advice, please.

]]> By: Manjit http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2852 Manjit Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:22:39 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2852 The Guardian's take on Ming's New Year message Lib Dems must sharpen message on crime, says Campbell http://politics.guardian.co.uk/libdems/story/0,,1978832,00.html The BBC's take: Lib Dems pledge to reduce crime http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6211861.stm The Guardian’s take on Ming’s New Year message

Lib Dems must sharpen message on crime, says Campbell
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/libdems/story/0,,1978832,00.html

The BBC’s take:
Lib Dems pledge to reduce crime
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6211861.stm

]]> By: Manjit http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2851 Manjit Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:20:13 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2851 Steve Richard's had a very good analysis of the Lib Dems current position in today's Independent. The Big Question: Have the Liberal Democrats missed their historic opportunity? http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2105960.ece Steve Richard’s had a very good analysis of the Lib Dems current position in today’s Independent.

The Big Question: Have the Liberal Democrats missed their historic opportunity?
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2105960.ece

]]> By: Rob Fenwick http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2849 Rob Fenwick Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:05:52 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2849 OK - I think it's time to call time on people using Mark Pack based names who aren't, in fact, Mark Pack. I don't have a particular objection to people using pseudonyms, but I think it's unfair to use someone elses's name without their consent. New names, please. OK – I think it’s time to call time on people using Mark Pack based names who aren’t, in fact, Mark Pack.

I don’t have a particular objection to people using pseudonyms, but I think it’s unfair to use someone elses’s name without their consent.

New names, please.

]]> By: Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2844 Mark Pack Doesn't Always Win Elections Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:32:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2844 Ming's listening? Has he got a new hearing aid? Let's be tough on criminals -tough sentences on those who sell goldfish at fairgrounds! Ming’s listening? Has he got a new hearing aid? Let’s be tough on criminals -tough sentences on those who sell goldfish at fairgrounds!

]]> By: Mark Pack Wins Elections More Often Than Labour Wish He Did http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-395.html#comment-2841 Mark Pack Wins Elections More Often Than Labour Wish He Did Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:06:49 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/menzies-campbells-new-year-message-i-get-angry-you-dont-want-to-see-me-when-im-angry-395.html#comment-2841 If "Not a supporter" wants to debate this issue, then perhaps he will explain how giving votes to prisoners and ending mandatory life for murder would increase crime? In the case of the former, I am not sure many villains are deterred from criminal activity by the threat of being deprived the ballot, so how does it impact on crime rates? In the case of the latter, making murder charges more flexible, so manslaughter didn't get used so often when current murder charges are inappropriate, is just common sense transparency. There's no suggestion it would lead to the most dangerous offenders being released any earlier than they are now. I think our New Tory Labour chum has helped show exactly why Lib Dems can cut crime, and his party (whichever of the identikit two it is) can just throw around its rattle and mislead the public. If “Not a supporter” wants to debate this issue, then perhaps he will explain how giving votes to prisoners and ending mandatory life for murder would increase crime?

In the case of the former, I am not sure many villains are deterred from criminal activity by the threat of being deprived the ballot, so how does it impact on crime rates?

In the case of the latter, making murder charges more flexible, so manslaughter didn’t get used so often when current murder charges are inappropriate, is just common sense transparency. There’s no suggestion it would lead to the most dangerous offenders being released any earlier than they are now.

I think our New Tory Labour chum has helped show exactly why Lib Dems can cut crime, and his party (whichever of the identikit two it is) can just throw around its rattle and mislead the public.

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