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	<title>Comments on: NEW POLL: Could a job-share leadership work?</title>
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		<title>By: tony hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got an even better idea:  if the leadership rotated between all the MPs then if each of them had it for a month they could all be leader over a 5 year parliament.  Or if it was a fortnight the Lords could have a go too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an even better idea:  if the leadership rotated between all the MPs then if each of them had it for a month they could all be leader over a 5 year parliament.  Or if it was a fortnight the Lords could have a go too.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God Spitting Image isn&#039;t still on the go - another two-headed party leadership woudl have given them plenty of ammo.  I think Kramer&#039;s comment were rather more of a dig at Clegg&#039;s performance (understandably) than any real regret that she didn&#039;t go for it herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God Spitting Image isn&#8217;t still on the go &#8211; another two-headed party leadership woudl have given them plenty of ammo.  I think Kramer&#8217;s comment were rather more of a dig at Clegg&#8217;s performance (understandably) than any real regret that she didn&#8217;t go for it herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Otten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Otten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but this is absolute bonkers. David and David were effectively a job share and it was made an issue of to the exclusion of policy. Don&#039;t go round giving the press irrelevant things to talk about instead of the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but this is absolute bonkers. David and David were effectively a job share and it was made an issue of to the exclusion of policy. Don&#8217;t go round giving the press irrelevant things to talk about instead of the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Grammar Police</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grammar Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we have anything to learn from the debates that the Green party have recently just had? 
I personally think the Greens were wrong to imagine that having a single leader will bring them more media interest and be easier for people to understand (most ordinary people just assumed that &quot;principal speaker&quot; meant leader, and probably didn&#039;t realise there were two of them). However, there were perceived failings in the system. 

@ Steve Garner - given your leader&#039;s comments on women in the cabinet today, do you have any views relevant to the discussion? (To mirror your snide aside, I&#039;ll just point to Andrew Lansley&#039;s comments on health spending and snigger)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we have anything to learn from the debates that the Green party have recently just had?<br />
I personally think the Greens were wrong to imagine that having a single leader will bring them more media interest and be easier for people to understand (most ordinary people just assumed that &#8220;principal speaker&#8221; meant leader, and probably didn&#8217;t realise there were two of them). However, there were perceived failings in the system. </p>
<p>@ Steve Garner &#8211; given your leader&#8217;s comments on women in the cabinet today, do you have any views relevant to the discussion? (To mirror your snide aside, I&#8217;ll just point to Andrew Lansley&#8217;s comments on health spending and snigger)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a serious suggestion though.  People &lt;em&gt;say&lt;/em&gt; all kinds of daft things, it&#039;s what they &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; that counts; when she had the chance to stand, she didn&#039;t.

My guess is that she is simply using a political example to talk about an issue which is something that she regards as a generally good idea - job sharing.  This is often the case with people&#039;s opinions - being &lt;em&gt;generally&lt;/em&gt; in favour of an idea but somehow rather less in favour of actually doing it themselves (to borrow a theme from the post office closure thread).  It&#039;s easy enough to say &quot;wouldn&#039;t a job share have been a &lt;em&gt;good idea&lt;/em&gt;&quot; when there&#039;s absolutely no prospect of there being a leadership election in which this scenario might arise.

That said, there are probably plenty of scenarios where job sharing does make sense, and I can&#039;t fault Susan Kramer&#039;s support of the general principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a serious suggestion though.  People <em>say</em> all kinds of daft things, it&#8217;s what they <em>do</em> that counts; when she had the chance to stand, she didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My guess is that she is simply using a political example to talk about an issue which is something that she regards as a generally good idea &#8211; job sharing.  This is often the case with people&#8217;s opinions &#8211; being <em>generally</em> in favour of an idea but somehow rather less in favour of actually doing it themselves (to borrow a theme from the post office closure thread).  It&#8217;s easy enough to say &#8220;wouldn&#8217;t a job share have been a <em>good idea</em>&#8221; when there&#8217;s absolutely no prospect of there being a leadership election in which this scenario might arise.</p>
<p>That said, there are probably plenty of scenarios where job sharing does make sense, and I can&#8217;t fault Susan Kramer&#8217;s support of the general principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say it&#039;s a good idea out of sheer commonsensical feminism (the sort I don&#039;t mind endorsing). But I echo Geoffrey&#039;s concern about a suppose job-share becoming de facto two full-time jobs.

Also in tactical terms, if I may speak cynically, I think it would have been the wrong thing, too much of an &quot;alt&quot; stick to beat us with unless we had fantastically and obviously good reasons for preferring SK and whoever over anyone else. Which I think in this instance I personally wouldn&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say it&#8217;s a good idea out of sheer commonsensical feminism (the sort I don&#8217;t mind endorsing). But I echo Geoffrey&#8217;s concern about a suppose job-share becoming de facto two full-time jobs.</p>
<p>Also in tactical terms, if I may speak cynically, I think it would have been the wrong thing, too much of an &#8220;alt&#8221; stick to beat us with unless we had fantastically and obviously good reasons for preferring SK and whoever over anyone else. Which I think in this instance I personally wouldn&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Jock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan clearly does not read my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan clearly does not read my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bancroft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Bancroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the Greens recognise this is a bad idea - what&#039;s Kramer playing at? We have too much leadership by committee in the party as it is, without us attempting to boldly go in two directions at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the Greens recognise this is a bad idea &#8211; what&#8217;s Kramer playing at? We have too much leadership by committee in the party as it is, without us attempting to boldly go in two directions at once.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daft idea, and one already being used against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daft idea, and one already being used against us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be said that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown had a job share, and it was certainly very successful from an electoral perspective; whether it delivered good government is another matter, but it was no barrier to popularity (indeed, it may have allowed both men to appeal to audiences who would have naturally disliked them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be said that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown had a job share, and it was certainly very successful from an electoral perspective; whether it delivered good government is another matter, but it was no barrier to popularity (indeed, it may have allowed both men to appeal to audiences who would have naturally disliked them).</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a good idea. There is no reason to be concerned about 2 leaders having different points of view than there is 2 colleagues in the shadow cabinet having different points of view.
The only problem might be that they would find the job becoming a full time one anyway as they would be doing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a good idea. There is no reason to be concerned about 2 leaders having different points of view than there is 2 colleagues in the shadow cabinet having different points of view.<br />
The only problem might be that they would find the job becoming a full time one anyway as they would be doing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerrard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you should look to your own inaffective leadership before commenting on what is a discussion point.

Speaking as one who believes in capitalism with a social conscience, your party ought to be more concerned about why this principal is no longer best represented by the Tories.

If you start with &#039;cameleon&#039; and &#039;changing with the wind&#039; this will give you a head start on your fellow conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you should look to your own inaffective leadership before commenting on what is a discussion point.</p>
<p>Speaking as one who believes in capitalism with a social conscience, your party ought to be more concerned about why this principal is no longer best represented by the Tories.</p>
<p>If you start with &#8216;cameleon&#8217; and &#8216;changing with the wind&#8217; this will give you a head start on your fellow conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Garner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Garner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a Tory, Kramer&#039;s comments are more interesting in what they tell us about her innermost thoughts about the Clegg leadership. I&#039;m delighted that thus far he has failed to make the sort of impact we&#039;d feared and the Lib Dem mess over the Lisbon Treaty is I believe evidence amongst other things of some fairly uninspiring leadership. Is that really Kramer&#039;s message today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a Tory, Kramer&#8217;s comments are more interesting in what they tell us about her innermost thoughts about the Clegg leadership. I&#8217;m delighted that thus far he has failed to make the sort of impact we&#8217;d feared and the Lib Dem mess over the Lisbon Treaty is I believe evidence amongst other things of some fairly uninspiring leadership. Is that really Kramer&#8217;s message today?</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us with long memories remember the problems we had when we (then as the SDP-Liberal Alliance) had two leaders before. The party voted overwhelmingly for merger and a single leader as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us with long memories remember the problems we had when we (then as the SDP-Liberal Alliance) had two leaders before. The party voted overwhelmingly for merger and a single leader as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerrard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerrard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting proposition but in reality one that could never work in today&#039;s society.

Leadership is exactly that, a singular focal point to rally around on policies, causes and issues.

To dilute the leadership would lead to splits, favouritism and utimately a return to the wilderness for our party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting proposition but in reality one that could never work in today&#8217;s society.</p>
<p>Leadership is exactly that, a singular focal point to rally around on policies, causes and issues.</p>
<p>To dilute the leadership would lead to splits, favouritism and utimately a return to the wilderness for our party.</p>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. One of those ideas that should never have been concieved. Just no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. One of those ideas that should never have been concieved. Just no.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do support the general idea but as leader of the Lib Dem party? People are already confused easily by who our leader is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do support the general idea but as leader of the Lib Dem party? People are already confused easily by who our leader is&#8230;</p>
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