Comments on: New poll: who do you want to be the Lib Dems’ London mayoral candidate? http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Black http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26501 Chris Black Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:44:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26501 <i>Not as daft an idea as it may first seem - after all London’s majority population in many of its boroughs is made up of ethnic minority.</i> Sorry, that's even <I> dafter</i> than it first seems. Isn't saying we won't have a white candidate racist in itself? Angus Huck is quite right. Not as daft an idea as it may first seem – after all London’s majority population in many of its boroughs is made up of ethnic minority.

Sorry, that’s even dafter than it first seems. Isn’t saying we won’t have a white candidate racist in itself?

Angus Huck is quite right.

]]> By: Duncan Borrowman http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26444 Duncan Borrowman Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:52:18 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26444 http://tinyurl.com/2jf7rx Paddick 'in London mayor bid' The policeman who pioneered the "softly-softly" approach to cannabis use is being lined up as the Liberal Democrat candidate for London Mayor. Brian Paddick, 49, has held talks with the party about standing against Labour's Ken Livingstone and the Tories' Boris Johnson. The entry into the race of Mr Paddick, who is gay, paves the way for a colourful contest. The former Scotland Yard officer came to prominence while masterminding a scheme that meant people caught with small amounts of cannabis in Brixton would not be prosecuted, but sent away with a warning. He joined the Met as an 18-year-old recruit in November 1976 and worked his way through the ranks. The officer had reached the £125,667-a-year rank of Deputy Assistant Commissioner when he retired this year after clashing with Met chief Sir Ian Blair over the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes. A LibDem source said: "We have been in talks with Brian Paddick and we hope and expect him to go forward for nomination as part of a full and open selection process." http://tinyurl.com/2jf7rx
Paddick ‘in London mayor bid’

The policeman who pioneered the “softly-softly” approach to cannabis use is being lined up as the Liberal Democrat candidate for London Mayor.

Brian Paddick, 49, has held talks with the party about standing against Labour’s Ken Livingstone and the Tories’ Boris Johnson.

The entry into the race of Mr Paddick, who is gay, paves the way for a colourful contest.

The former Scotland Yard officer came to prominence while masterminding a scheme that meant people caught with small amounts of cannabis in Brixton would not be prosecuted, but sent away with a warning.

He joined the Met as an 18-year-old recruit in November 1976 and worked his way through the ranks.

The officer had reached the £125,667-a-year rank of Deputy Assistant Commissioner when he retired this year after clashing with Met chief Sir Ian Blair over the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.

A LibDem source said: “We have been in talks with Brian Paddick and we hope and expect him to go forward for nomination as part of a full and open selection process.”

]]> By: Angus Huck http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26430 Angus Huck Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:56:46 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26430 Ming Campbell belongs to an ethnic minority. Having made that somewhat flippant point, I would warn against even the slightest move down the road the US went back in the 19th century of cobbling together coalitions of ethnic and religious minorities and interest groups - pork barrel politics of the very worst sort. If there is a good ethnic minority candidate out there, then let's have him, or her (if he or she is genuinely the best). But please, we don't have to have an ethnic minority candidate just to prove our anti-racist credentials. Ming Campbell belongs to an ethnic minority.

Having made that somewhat flippant point, I would warn against even the slightest move down the road the US went back in the 19th century of cobbling together coalitions of ethnic and religious minorities and interest groups – pork barrel politics of the very worst sort.

If there is a good ethnic minority candidate out there, then let’s have him, or her (if he or she is genuinely the best). But please, we don’t have to have an ethnic minority candidate just to prove our anti-racist credentials.

]]> By: Realist http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26427 Realist Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:40:19 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26427 So the Party can't find anyone who is ready to stand as our London Mayoral Candidate Well - here is an opportunity for the Party to turn adversity into virtue It should declare that it wants to demonstrate its commitement to equality by selecting a ethnic minority candidate. Not as daft an idea as it may first seem - after all London's majority population in many of its boroughs is made up of ethnic minority. So the Party can’t find anyone who is ready to stand as our London Mayoral Candidate

Well – here is an opportunity for the Party to turn adversity into virtue

It should declare that it wants to demonstrate its commitement to equality by selecting a ethnic minority candidate.

Not as daft an idea as it may first seem – after all London’s majority population in many of its boroughs is made up of ethnic minority.

]]> By: Laurence Boyce http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26407 Laurence Boyce Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:03:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26407 Is there any reason why Millennium Elephant and Pink Dog are not on the list? Is there any reason why Millennium Elephant and Pink Dog are not on the list?

]]> By: Benjamin Mathis http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26361 Benjamin Mathis Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:48:32 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26361 Ah, yes, the ever-luminous Frank Dobson. Ah, yes, the ever-luminous Frank Dobson.

]]> By: Doug http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26357 Doug Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:28:39 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26357 Susan Kramer actually came fourth, not third http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_mayoral_election,_2000 Susan Kramer actually came fourth, not third http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_mayoral_election,_2000

]]> By: Paul L http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26347 Paul L Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:39:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26347 I guess the Lib Dems in Henley are already using it against him - after all Henley isn't in London and there are public comments from some local Tory councillors about Boris letting them down. Big problem for any sitting MP is that the General election could be before the Mayoral election and effectively put them out of one of the races with now where to go - this was apparently Boris's connundrum and why he took so long making his mind up. Boris has effectively admitted that the Tories won't win the General election! Lib Dems need to get a candidate in place who will commit to running a wholehearted campaign. I guess the Lib Dems in Henley are already using it against him – after all Henley isn’t in London and there are public comments from some local Tory councillors about Boris letting them down.

Big problem for any sitting MP is that the General election could be before the Mayoral election and effectively put them out of one of the races with now where to go – this was apparently Boris’s connundrum and why he took so long making his mind up.

Boris has effectively admitted that the Tories won’t win the General election!

Lib Dems need to get a candidate in place who will commit to running a wholehearted campaign.

]]> By: mer http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26344 mer Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:20:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26344 8 <i>“Being your MP wasn’t good enough for X, s/he wanted to be mayor - vote for your Conservative/Labour/Green candidate”</i> Hmmm, I'm sure that Lib Dems can use that next time in Henley, if Boris doesn't get elected as Mayor. 8 “Being your MP wasn’t good enough for X, s/he wanted to be mayor – vote for your Conservative/Labour/Green candidate”

Hmmm, I’m sure that Lib Dems can use that next time in Henley, if Boris doesn’t get elected as Mayor.

]]> By: Graeme http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26334 Graeme Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:31:10 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26334 Andy: Not sure how they could have included the four people who puts their names forward as I don't remember those names ever being publicised. Andy: Not sure how they could have included the four people who puts their names forward as I don’t remember those names ever being publicised.

]]> By: nigelashton http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26269 nigelashton Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:16:13 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26269 Lynne has pretty comprehensively rules herself out of standing for London Mayor. On her blog, Lynne writes: "Thanks all those who've put me (as I type) at the top of the poll, but sorry to tell you - I've no interest in putting my name forward for the selection when it kicks off again latter this year." http://tinyurl.com/3chulj Lynne has pretty comprehensively rules herself out of standing for London Mayor. On her blog, Lynne writes:
“Thanks all those who’ve put me (as I type) at the top of the poll, but sorry to tell you – I’ve no interest in putting my name forward for the selection when it kicks off again latter this year.”
http://tinyurl.com/3chulj

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26263 Anonymous Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:36:00 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26263 Just to confirm that in the real ballot all members of the Party in London will select the Mayoral candidate in an STV (AV) postal ballot. Applications will be invited in a formal advert in Lib Dem News which I will also post here when details have been finalised, and full details will go to all Party members for whom we hold an email address. Jonathan Davies Returning Officer Just to confirm that in the real ballot all members of the Party in London will select the Mayoral candidate in an STV (AV) postal ballot.

Applications will be invited in a formal advert in Lib Dem News which I will also post here when details have been finalised, and full details will go to all Party members for whom we hold an email address.

Jonathan Davies
Returning Officer

]]> By: Benjamin Mathis http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26246 Benjamin Mathis Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:32:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26246 ADDENDUM - Not forgetting the very real possibility that any MP who puts themselves forward MAY well end up fighting BOTH elections on the same day! ADDENDUM – Not forgetting the very real possibility that any MP who puts themselves forward MAY well end up fighting BOTH elections on the same day!

]]> By: Benjamin Mathis http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26245 Benjamin Mathis Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:29:52 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26245 Indeed she was, Mr H, but 5 years before entering parliament. For a sitting MP to seek other elected office and them attempt to retain their seat would IMHO be a mistake, especially when Lynne's seat was won with such a large swing: They swung once, give them a reason to turn against you and they'll swing right on back! Which is a shame because I think Lynne is wonderful, would be a great candidate and a great mayor and if she went for it I'd be right behind her all the way to polling day, I just think it could be a tactical mistake that winds up costing her dearly. Indeed she was, Mr H, but 5 years before entering parliament. For a sitting MP to seek other elected office and them attempt to retain their seat would IMHO be a mistake, especially when Lynne’s seat was won with such a large swing: They swung once, give them a reason to turn against you and they’ll swing right on back!
Which is a shame because I think Lynne is wonderful, would be a great candidate and a great mayor and if she went for it I’d be right behind her all the way to polling day, I just think it could be a tactical mistake that winds up costing her dearly.

]]> By: johnhemming http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26231 johnhemming Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:50:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26231 11 - Susan Kramer was third in the mayoral election. 11 – Susan Kramer was third in the mayoral election.

]]> By: Benjamin Mathis http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26222 Benjamin Mathis Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:39:42 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26222 Lynne's fabulous - although some of the more fanatical liberals I know question some of her views particularly on drugs and alcohol - but some people don't think ANYONE's liberal enough. As I said, I think it's a bad idea for an MP who will be seeking re-election to go for mayor as the opposition campaign at the GE then writes itself. I think Lynne is much more use to us as a rising star in parliament than as a defeated one-term MP who once came a good third in a mayoral race. Lynne’s fabulous – although some of the more fanatical liberals I know question some of her views particularly on drugs and alcohol – but some people don’t think ANYONE’s liberal enough.

As I said, I think it’s a bad idea for an MP who will be seeking re-election to go for mayor as the opposition campaign at the GE then writes itself. I think Lynne is much more use to us as a rising star in parliament than as a defeated one-term MP who once came a good third in a mayoral race.

]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26219 Chris Paul Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:09:16 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26219 Yeah, Lynne Featherstone. Please! Yeah, Lynne Featherstone. Please!

]]> By: Rabi http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26209 Rabi Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:51:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26209 Now that you mentioned Lynne Benjamin - why not Lynne Featherstone - Ex Business Women - Ex Councillor - Now MP - and a Londoner too !!! Now that you mentioned Lynne Benjamin – why not Lynne Featherstone – Ex Business Women – Ex Councillor – Now MP – and a Londoner too !!!

]]> By: Benjamin Mathis http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26202 Benjamin Mathis Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:51:09 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26202 Does anyone HAVE an online STV application? That would generate literally days of fun! Any of the MP's would be silly to go for it, frankly - "Being your MP wasn't good enough for X, s/he wanted to be mayor - vote for your Conservative/Labour/Green candidate" although there are some who might otherwise make very good candidates. It would be nice if we could have someone with charisma AND policy nouse but I suppose that's just wishful thinking now! Oh and who's been repeatedly clicking on Lynne?! Does anyone HAVE an online STV application? That would generate literally days of fun!

Any of the MP’s would be silly to go for it, frankly – “Being your MP wasn’t good enough for X, s/he wanted to be mayor – vote for your Conservative/Labour/Green candidate” although there are some who might otherwise make very good candidates.

It would be nice if we could have someone with charisma AND policy nouse but I suppose that’s just wishful thinking now!

Oh and who’s been repeatedly clicking on Lynne?!

]]> By: Tim Leunig http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26197 Tim Leunig Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:24:20 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-do-you-want-to-be-the-lib-dems%e2%80%99-london-mayoral-candidate-1110.html#comment-26197 And surely as LDs we should not be using a FPTP ballot?! And surely as LDs we should not be using a FPTP ballot?!

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