Comments on: NEW POLL: Who is your Liberal Voice of the Year? http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The LDV Friday Five: 15 January 2010 http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105440 The LDV Friday Five: 15 January 2010 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:02:47 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105440 [...] 2. What do we want? Section 63 of the Metropolitan Paving Act 1817 of course (20) by Mark Pack 3. NEW POLL: Who is your Liberal Voice of the Year? (22) by Stephen Tall 4. Gina Ford vs Nick Clegg (12) by Mark Pack 5. Liberal Youth … the story [...] [...] 2. What do we want? Section 63 of the Metropolitan Paving Act 1817 of course (20) by Mark Pack 3. NEW POLL: Who is your Liberal Voice of the Year? (22) by Stephen Tall 4. Gina Ford vs Nick Clegg (12) by Mark Pack 5. Liberal Youth … the story [...]

]]> By: LDV’s Liberal Voice poll: a two-horse race* between Tatchell and Goldacre? http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105374 LDV’s Liberal Voice poll: a two-horse race* between Tatchell and Goldacre? Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:01:10 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105374 [...] days ago, LDV launched our search for our annual Liberal Voice of the Year, open only to non-Lib Dems, with you, our dear readers, forming the electorate. Voting will close [...] [...] days ago, LDV launched our search for our annual Liberal Voice of the Year, open only to non-Lib Dems, with you, our dear readers, forming the electorate. Voting will close [...]

]]> By: Anne http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105257 Anne Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:12:27 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105257 I have huge respect and gratitude for all the people who bravely campaign for the protection of others and there seems to be good reason to vote for each of the candidates. However I have voted for Guy Herbert for his work for NO2ID which aims to safeguard our liberties from insidious erosion in the guise of the government ID scheme, so that people in our society can continue to campaign, straight talk and write books without fear from our own government. I have huge respect and gratitude for all the people who bravely campaign for the protection of others and there seems to be good reason to vote for each of the candidates. However I have voted for Guy Herbert for his work for NO2ID which aims to safeguard our liberties from insidious erosion in the guise of the government ID scheme, so that people in our society can continue to campaign, straight talk and write books without fear from our own government.

]]> By: Stephen Tall http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105170 Stephen Tall Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:45:11 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105170 <blockquote>there are only 2 liberals on it</blockquote> Subjective. But in any case the Liberal Voice award is not for the most liberal person/group, but for whoever has contributed most towards liberal society in the past 12 months (according to LDV's readers). Doesn't mean they have to be a liberal all the time. <blockquote>Why not have Damian Green?</blockquote> Because no-one nominated him. Nominations were <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2009-17368.html" rel="nofollow">open to all LDV readers</a> to submit, and were open for 10 days. <blockquote> It is possible to be right of centre and liberal, isn’t it?</blockquote> Rory Sterwart is on the list.

there are only 2 liberals on it

Subjective. But in any case the Liberal Voice award is not for the most liberal person/group, but for whoever has contributed most towards liberal society in the past 12 months (according to LDV’s readers). Doesn’t mean they have to be a liberal all the time.

Why not have Damian Green?

Because no-one nominated him. Nominations were open to all LDV readers to submit, and were open for 10 days.

It is possible to be right of centre and liberal, isn’t it?

Rory Sterwart is on the list.

]]> By: LiberalHammer http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105166 LiberalHammer Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:02:04 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105166 This is a confusing list - there are only 2 liberals on it, Pratchett and Porter. Goldacre, whilst being brilliant, exposes cant and misinformation. That just makes him objective, not liberal. And Alan Rusbridger may well edit the most popular left leaning paper but that doesn't make him a liberal, does it? Why not have Damian Green? It is possible to be right of centre and liberal, isn't it? This is a confusing list – there are only 2 liberals on it, Pratchett and Porter. Goldacre, whilst being brilliant, exposes cant and misinformation. That just makes him objective, not liberal. And Alan Rusbridger may well edit the most popular left leaning paper but that doesn’t make him a liberal, does it?

Why not have Damian Green? It is possible to be right of centre and liberal, isn’t it?

]]> By: Geoffrey Payne http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105114 Geoffrey Payne Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:10:40 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105114 I have never voted Tory in my life, but Rory Stewart gets my vote as the only British politician I know who speaks any sense on Afghanistan. The current policy of the government, unfortunately supported to some extent by the leadership of the party, although not by the motion we passed at the last Lib Dem conference, is doing more harm than good. However I did previously suggest including Adair Turner for speaking out against the excesses of the banking sector and suggesting a Tobin Tax. May not be to everyone's taste, but Shirley Williams was impressed enough invite him onto the Today programme. I have never voted Tory in my life, but Rory Stewart gets my vote as the only British politician I know who speaks any sense on Afghanistan. The current policy of the government, unfortunately supported to some extent by the leadership of the party, although not by the motion we passed at the last Lib Dem conference, is doing more harm than good.
However I did previously suggest including Adair Turner for speaking out against the excesses of the banking sector and suggesting a Tobin Tax. May not be to everyone’s taste, but Shirley Williams was impressed enough invite him onto the Today programme.

]]> By: Ian Stewart http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-105005 Ian Stewart Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:13:05 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-105005 Rory Stewart? (no relation) hold on a minute folks.....this is the former Labour Party member who is Tory PPC for Penrith & the Borders. It might be somewhat strange to see him on this list. So he has a view on Afghanistan that is at variance with most in his party..............one swallow a spring does not make! Caveat emptor. Rory Stewart? (no relation)
hold on a minute folks…..this is the former Labour Party member who is Tory PPC for Penrith & the Borders.

It might be somewhat strange to see him on this list. So he has a view on Afghanistan that is at variance with most in his party…………..one swallow a spring does not make!

Caveat emptor.

]]> By: burkesworks http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104987 burkesworks Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:45:29 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104987 Henry Porter is streets ahead of the other candidates in my book - he really gets it regarding the pantechnicon state that so many, the Labour top brass and Murdoch among them, want to inflict on the public. I've a lot of time for Guy Herbert and No2ID, but I'm sure he wouldn't relish winning a "Liberal Voice of the Year award". Libertarian, maybe. Tatchell should not be on this list, what with his having thrown in his lot with the Eustonites and then the Greens; and God knows why ex-spook Rory Stewart is there - that's a name you'll be hearing plenty of if the Tories come to power, and it won't be for any services to liberalism either. Henry Porter is streets ahead of the other candidates in my book – he really gets it regarding the pantechnicon state that so many, the Labour top brass and Murdoch among them, want to inflict on the public. I’ve a lot of time for Guy Herbert and No2ID, but I’m sure he wouldn’t relish winning a “Liberal Voice of the Year award”. Libertarian, maybe.

Tatchell should not be on this list, what with his having thrown in his lot with the Eustonites and then the Greens; and God knows why ex-spook Rory Stewart is there – that’s a name you’ll be hearing plenty of if the Tories come to power, and it won’t be for any services to liberalism either.

]]> By: James http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104966 James Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:56:59 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104966 Peter Tatchell. Genuinely inspiring, and I was so upset he's had to withdraw from the election. Peter Tatchell. Genuinely inspiring, and I was so upset he’s had to withdraw from the election.

]]> By: Geraint http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104920 Geraint Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:14:59 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104920 There is a fine selection of candidates to choose from, but my vote has to go to Guy Herbert who has worked so tirelessly for NO2ID. It was Guy who coined the phrase "database state", which so succinctly describes one of the main battle lines between liberals and our authoritarian-minded government. There is a fine selection of candidates to choose from, but my vote has to go to Guy Herbert who has worked so tirelessly for NO2ID. It was Guy who coined the phrase “database state”, which so succinctly describes one of the main battle lines between liberals and our authoritarian-minded government.

]]> By: Freddy Phillips http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104916 Freddy Phillips Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:39:53 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104916 Aghhh.. Following my post above I will be voting for Guy Herbert the reason should be obvious but I omitted the obvious! Aghhh.. Following my post above I will be voting for Guy Herbert the reason should be obvious but I omitted the obvious!

]]> By: Freddy Phillips http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104914 Freddy Phillips Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:38:06 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104914 Remember the words of Martin Niemoller "They came first for the communists, and I didn’t speak up For I was not a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up For I was not a Jew Then they cam for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak up, For I was not a Trade Unionist Then they came for the Catholics and I didn’t speak up Because I was a Protestant Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up". Remember the words of Martin Niemoller

“They came first for the communists, and I didn’t speak up
For I was not a communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up
For I was not a Jew
Then they cam for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak up,
For I was not a Trade Unionist
Then they came for the Catholics and I didn’t speak up
Because I was a Protestant
Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up”.

]]> By: Brian D Finch http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104912 Brian D Finch Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:25:53 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104912 Ben Goldacre is an 'orthodox' writer. In other words, he follows the 'orthodox' consensus - regardless of whether or not it is a true consensus and regardless of whether or not it truly refelcts the science - which, in the case of 'climate science', it does not. The CRU and the UEA sre demonstrable proven frauds. Al Gore is a scientific illiterate who appears to think that (his own words) the centre of the earth is 'millions of degrees' hot. Does Goldacre challenge this? No. He is a waste of space.Porter is the most eloquent voice currently opposing the imposition of technologically-driven tyranny upon the people. The rest are trivial. Porter gets my vote. Ben Goldacre is an ‘orthodox’ writer. In other words, he follows the ‘orthodox’ consensus – regardless of whether or not it is a true consensus and regardless of whether or not it truly refelcts the science – which, in the case of ‘climate science’, it does not. The CRU and the UEA sre demonstrable proven frauds. Al Gore is a scientific illiterate who appears to think that (his own words) the centre of the earth is ‘millions of degrees’ hot. Does Goldacre challenge this? No. He is a waste of space.Porter is the most eloquent voice currently opposing the imposition of technologically-driven tyranny upon the people. The rest are trivial. Porter gets my vote.

]]> By: Chris http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104909 Chris Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:45:02 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104909 I'll be voting for Guy Herbert, a man who has worked tirelessly to protect our liberties. I’ll be voting for Guy Herbert, a man who has worked tirelessly to protect our liberties.

]]> By: James http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104908 James Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:26:00 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104908 How is Ben Goldache Liberal? He pulled out of an event put on for free to increase public understanding of science simply because it was hosted in a Humanities department (they had a free room), and he has an intolerant illiberal attitude towards Humanities graduates even when they may be perfectly scientifically literature. How is Ben Goldache Liberal? He pulled out of an event put on for free to increase public understanding of science simply because it was hosted in a Humanities department (they had a free room), and he has an intolerant illiberal attitude towards Humanities graduates even when they may be perfectly scientifically literature.

]]> By: Liberal Neil http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104906 Liberal Neil Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:50:48 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104906 My vote was just accepted. My vote was just accepted.

]]> By: Stephen Tall http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104897 Stephen Tall Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:53:30 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104897 Lorna - erm, you sure? Still open when I look at it (unless you've already voted). Lorna – erm, you sure? Still open when I look at it (unless you’ve already voted).

]]> By: Lorna Spenceley http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104893 Lorna Spenceley Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:22:42 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104893 This poll appears to have closed on the day it opens - wtf?! This poll appears to have closed on the day it opens – wtf?!

]]> By: ColinW http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104891 ColinW Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:08:02 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104891 know-nothing 'journalists' know-nothing ‘journalists’

]]> By: ColinW http://www.libdemvoice.org/new-poll-who-is-your-liberal-voice-of-the-year-17477.html#comment-104889 ColinW Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:06:46 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=17477#comment-104889 Another great demolition today by Ben Goldacre - of a truly crap Sunday Times story claiming public sector employees earn more than the private sector. The story is entirely based on crap statistics & no-nothing 'journalism' by rightwing fuckwits. http://www.badscience.net/2010/01/if-you-want-to-be-trusted-more-claim-less/ Another great demolition today by Ben Goldacre – of a truly crap Sunday Times story claiming public sector employees earn more than the private sector. The story is entirely based on crap statistics & no-nothing ‘journalism’ by rightwing fuckwits.

http://www.badscience.net/2010/01/if-you-want-to-be-trusted-more-claim-less/

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