LDYS/LIBERAL YOUTH has impeciable anti-fascist credentials. Many of our members have fought the BNP. To say that this is some kind of homage to the HJ is as absurd as it is offensive.

A number of our present exec including the person who actually came up with the name are Jewish. I doubt they would be pleased to have it implied that they harbour some kind of nostalgia for the Nazis.

I don’t see the words “Hitler” or “Nazis” in the new name, either. And I don’t see why Hitler and Nazis should be granted the sole right to the word “Youth”. As for the German word “Jugend”, it translates in English “Youth”, but also “Art Nouveau”, which preceded the Nazis and was despised by them (and by the communists) as bourgeois and decadent – maybe exactly the same reason why I love that style so much.

The new name might be related to the names European Liberal Youth (LYMEC) and International Federation of Liberal Youth (IFLRY), where the youth organisation of Lib Dems is a member. There are also a Organisation of African Liberal Youth and a Liberal Youth South Asia, are you claiming they are nazis because of their name, too?

But why have they dropped the Democrats. In Council chambers up and down the country stuck in the past Tories and Labour still call us the Liberals in a disparaging way – they can’t even be bothered to update our name.

Yes, but at least it was to the LEFT hand side.

Young Liberal Popular Front or the Popular Young Liberal Front.

Splitters

- I don’t see the point. “Youth” was included in the old name, and nobody complained then.