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	<title>Comments on: Opinion: How we made fortnightly bin collections work in Cambridge</title>
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		<title>By: Mund</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83921</link>
		<dc:creator>Mund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t only the recycling of Aluminium and Glass productive whilst all the others are merely bridges to nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t only the recycling of Aluminium and Glass productive whilst all the others are merely bridges to nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83275</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Lifting one or two backs into a lorry...&lt;/i&gt;

That should, of course, be one or two &lt;b&gt;bags&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Lifting one or two backs into a lorry&#8230;</i></p>
<p>That should, of course, be one or two <b>bags</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83234</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous: you don&#039;t seem to understand much about Cambridge. While there are areas where liberal-minded academic types seem to predominate, this is far from the majority of the city. 

Take Kings Hedges Ward in the north of the city, for example, dominated by housing estates and with few of your Oxbridge stereotypes. This was a Labour stronghold before we switched to alternate weekly collections: now all its city councillors are Lib Dems. That&#039;s down to the hard work of the local Lib Dem team - but if the people of Kings Hedges thought we&#039;d screwed up their bins in 2005, I don&#039;t think they&#039;d be too ready to vote for us.

Next time you&#039;re in Cambridge, try taking a trip away from the colleges and the punting, and see how the rest of Cambridge lives. You&#039;ll find it&#039;s not so different from the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous: you don&#8217;t seem to understand much about Cambridge. While there are areas where liberal-minded academic types seem to predominate, this is far from the majority of the city. </p>
<p>Take Kings Hedges Ward in the north of the city, for example, dominated by housing estates and with few of your Oxbridge stereotypes. This was a Labour stronghold before we switched to alternate weekly collections: now all its city councillors are Lib Dems. That&#8217;s down to the hard work of the local Lib Dem team &#8211; but if the people of Kings Hedges thought we&#8217;d screwed up their bins in 2005, I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d be too ready to vote for us.</p>
<p>Next time you&#8217;re in Cambridge, try taking a trip away from the colleges and the punting, and see how the rest of Cambridge lives. You&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s not so different from the rest of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83232</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first district to introduce alternate weekly collections in oxfordshire was Tory run Cherwell - about as Daily Mail reading as you will find!

I agree with the original article - it can be done as long as time and effort is put into planning, consultation on detail and explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first district to introduce alternate weekly collections in oxfordshire was Tory run Cherwell &#8211; about as Daily Mail reading as you will find!</p>
<p>I agree with the original article &#8211; it can be done as long as time and effort is put into planning, consultation on detail and explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83230</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advantages of wheeled bins are that they are better at containing the waste - bin bags are vulnerable to being ripped open by assorted vermin - and they can be collected with less risk of injury to the workforce. Not only should a responsible employer take reasonable steps to prevent injuries at work anyway, but reducing long-term sickness and absenteeism is of direct benefit to the council. Lifting one or two backs into a lorry may not seem much more hassle than loading on a wheeled bin: try doing it a few hundred times and you&#039;ll soon appreciate the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advantages of wheeled bins are that they are better at containing the waste &#8211; bin bags are vulnerable to being ripped open by assorted vermin &#8211; and they can be collected with less risk of injury to the workforce. Not only should a responsible employer take reasonable steps to prevent injuries at work anyway, but reducing long-term sickness and absenteeism is of direct benefit to the council. Lifting one or two backs into a lorry may not seem much more hassle than loading on a wheeled bin: try doing it a few hundred times and you&#8217;ll soon appreciate the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Rosenstiel</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83229</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Rosenstiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thanks to Iain for this helpful and thorough piece.
 
It is particularly timely because we are in the build up at present for a further switch in November this year, from the black and blue box recyclables collections to a third wheelie bin for dry recyclables (which will be dark blue, so far the most publicly discussed aspect of the change).

The change has been driven by a number of factors. A survey of residents showed a large number wanting to recycle more than the boxes allow; many boxes overflowing, leading to increased street litter problems; and developments in waste sorting technology which make feasible today what could not be done when we started kerbside recycling early in the present decade under Iain&#039;s predecessor.

I make a point not to respond to anonymous internet posters. If something is valid there is no reason to hide in that way on matters like this. They rarely get their facts right either.

The new arrangements will also add cardboard drinks containers (&quot;Tetrapaks&quot;) to the doorstep recycling portfolio and allow householders to recycle cardboard instead of composting it. We hope to extend the range of plastics recycled too.

The blue bin contents will go for sorting to a Materials Recycling Facility (MRF) under a contract currently being let. This will have to be a modern MRF because we continue to be determined to recycle glass and sort it by colour. Weare working with other district councils in Cambridgeshire to reduce procurement costs.

The biggest issue this time is to identify about 7,500 households with insufficient space or access for another wheelie bin. They will retain their boxes though they will be able to use the black and blue ones interchangeably. The box contents will go in the co-mingled collection and not be sorted at the kerbside as at present.

The other problem is that local government finances are even tighter now than in 2005 so we will have to work harder with fewer resources. The &quot;Cambridge Matters&quot; magazine that Iain referred to will also be a key part of the information flow to help residents with the change.

Colin Rosenstiel
Executive Councillor for Waste and Environmental Services (Iain&#039;s successor)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thanks to Iain for this helpful and thorough piece.</p>
<p>It is particularly timely because we are in the build up at present for a further switch in November this year, from the black and blue box recyclables collections to a third wheelie bin for dry recyclables (which will be dark blue, so far the most publicly discussed aspect of the change).</p>
<p>The change has been driven by a number of factors. A survey of residents showed a large number wanting to recycle more than the boxes allow; many boxes overflowing, leading to increased street litter problems; and developments in waste sorting technology which make feasible today what could not be done when we started kerbside recycling early in the present decade under Iain&#8217;s predecessor.</p>
<p>I make a point not to respond to anonymous internet posters. If something is valid there is no reason to hide in that way on matters like this. They rarely get their facts right either.</p>
<p>The new arrangements will also add cardboard drinks containers (&#8220;Tetrapaks&#8221;) to the doorstep recycling portfolio and allow householders to recycle cardboard instead of composting it. We hope to extend the range of plastics recycled too.</p>
<p>The blue bin contents will go for sorting to a Materials Recycling Facility (MRF) under a contract currently being let. This will have to be a modern MRF because we continue to be determined to recycle glass and sort it by colour. Weare working with other district councils in Cambridgeshire to reduce procurement costs.</p>
<p>The biggest issue this time is to identify about 7,500 households with insufficient space or access for another wheelie bin. They will retain their boxes though they will be able to use the black and blue ones interchangeably. The box contents will go in the co-mingled collection and not be sorted at the kerbside as at present.</p>
<p>The other problem is that local government finances are even tighter now than in 2005 so we will have to work harder with fewer resources. The &#8220;Cambridge Matters&#8221; magazine that Iain referred to will also be a key part of the information flow to help residents with the change.</p>
<p>Colin Rosenstiel<br />
Executive Councillor for Waste and Environmental Services (Iain&#8217;s successor)</p>
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		<title>By: Edis Bevan</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83203</link>
		<dc:creator>Edis Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, you seem still to have weekly collections - of the socially most contentuous waste, the rottable and (people believe) potentially rat-feeding &#039;compostable&#039; bit. The fortnighly element seems to be alternating recyclable and non-recyclable dry waste, which is much more acceptable.

You were also lucky to be able to offer an &#039;extra dimension&#039; in collecting plastic waste. Where plastics are already part of the weekly deal an authority would not have this bait to dangle.

In Milton Keynes by the way we dont have bin collections at all.

That is, we dont have wheely bins. Residents put out waste in colour-coded sacks (broken glass in blue boxes) which the weekly collection crews toss directly into appropriate compartments of the lorry. Tipping wheely bins into a lorry and returning them to their doorsteps really slows things down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you seem still to have weekly collections &#8211; of the socially most contentuous waste, the rottable and (people believe) potentially rat-feeding &#8216;compostable&#8217; bit. The fortnighly element seems to be alternating recyclable and non-recyclable dry waste, which is much more acceptable.</p>
<p>You were also lucky to be able to offer an &#8216;extra dimension&#8217; in collecting plastic waste. Where plastics are already part of the weekly deal an authority would not have this bait to dangle.</p>
<p>In Milton Keynes by the way we dont have bin collections at all.</p>
<p>That is, we dont have wheely bins. Residents put out waste in colour-coded sacks (broken glass in blue boxes) which the weekly collection crews toss directly into appropriate compartments of the lorry. Tipping wheely bins into a lorry and returning them to their doorsteps really slows things down.</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83202</link>
		<dc:creator>Bishop Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as far as I can tell there is not a shred of evidence that recycling does anything other than waste valuable resources. I&#039;ve looked. I&#039;ve even asked WRAP, but there&#039;s nothing you&#039;d describe as a serious study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far as I can tell there is not a shred of evidence that recycling does anything other than waste valuable resources. I&#8217;ve looked. I&#8217;ve even asked WRAP, but there&#8217;s nothing you&#8217;d describe as a serious study.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-how-we-made-fortnightly-bin-collections-work-in-cambridge-12120.html#comment-83200</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might not have suffered at the ballot box for this because places like Oxbridge are full of beardy-sandal academic types, not to mention lots of students, who probably were keen on their recycling in the first place. Lots of Green waverers too to win over. Very few Mail readers and Tories with quixotic hostility to the very ideas of recylcing and climate change.

Out in the rest of the world there is sadly a greater degree of hostility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might not have suffered at the ballot box for this because places like Oxbridge are full of beardy-sandal academic types, not to mention lots of students, who probably were keen on their recycling in the first place. Lots of Green waverers too to win over. Very few Mail readers and Tories with quixotic hostility to the very ideas of recylcing and climate change.</p>
<p>Out in the rest of the world there is sadly a greater degree of hostility.</p>
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