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		<title>By: Lawliet</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-159990</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that the culture of extreme yah boo politics portrays the Commons to be a place for politicians to just shout down their questions and views at each other like rowdy school chilrden. It does seem as though it&#039;s the size of one&#039;s vocal chords that matters most in debates and not the importance of the point to be made. 
However I do think that the adversarial style of the lower House is important and that many of the issues discussed bring out passionate views. But perhaps more actually scrutiny of the governments actions is needed, rather than MPs not letting each other talk for very long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that the culture of extreme yah boo politics portrays the Commons to be a place for politicians to just shout down their questions and views at each other like rowdy school chilrden. It does seem as though it&#8217;s the size of one&#8217;s vocal chords that matters most in debates and not the importance of the point to be made.<br />
However I do think that the adversarial style of the lower House is important and that many of the issues discussed bring out passionate views. But perhaps more actually scrutiny of the governments actions is needed, rather than MPs not letting each other talk for very long.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37729</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure many of us would agree with most of the points you make about PMQs. Whilst the Speaker does sometimes tell MPs off for bad behaviour, I&#039;ve never heard him, or Ms Boothroyd before him, ask the PM to &quot;please answer the question !&quot; Is this not permissible ?

I also like your suggestion: &quot;Outside of Parliament’s normal sitting weeks, why not take PMQs around the different
parts of the UK? Indeed, this would open up all sorts of possibilities for allowing
members of the public to ask questions. It would be good to get the public more
involved directly.&quot; But, what I would ask is why don&#039;t MPs themselves also allow the public to ask questions of them ? We keep hearing that there should be &quot;a public debate&quot; on various topics but I never hear where these debates are to be held. So, Ms Featherstone, when will you next be giving a public speech in Highgate, or some other part of the constituency, where local residents can attend, ask you questions etc ? Or, do you believe that the internet has done away with the need for public speaking ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure many of us would agree with most of the points you make about PMQs. Whilst the Speaker does sometimes tell MPs off for bad behaviour, I&#8217;ve never heard him, or Ms Boothroyd before him, ask the PM to &#8220;please answer the question !&#8221; Is this not permissible ?</p>
<p>I also like your suggestion: &#8220;Outside of Parliament’s normal sitting weeks, why not take PMQs around the different<br />
parts of the UK? Indeed, this would open up all sorts of possibilities for allowing<br />
members of the public to ask questions. It would be good to get the public more<br />
involved directly.&#8221; But, what I would ask is why don&#8217;t MPs themselves also allow the public to ask questions of them ? We keep hearing that there should be &#8220;a public debate&#8221; on various topics but I never hear where these debates are to be held. So, Ms Featherstone, when will you next be giving a public speech in Highgate, or some other part of the constituency, where local residents can attend, ask you questions etc ? Or, do you believe that the internet has done away with the need for public speaking ?</p>
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		<title>By: D Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37713</link>
		<dc:creator>D Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Democracy&#039;, as we know it, is essentially adversarial: winning is all that matters. And it not just PMQT that is not fit for purpose. 

Parliament, itself, is the bear pit:    yielding illegal warfare, uncontrolled growth, climate change, growing inequality, the threat of Big Brother  etc etc.

Elections?  What for? More of the same.
Unless the world can evolve something much better than the much vaunted democratic system America and Britain is attempting to impose by force on mankind - in the interests of permanent growth and inequality - our so-called civilisation is at an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Democracy&#8217;, as we know it, is essentially adversarial: winning is all that matters. And it not just PMQT that is not fit for purpose. </p>
<p>Parliament, itself, is the bear pit:    yielding illegal warfare, uncontrolled growth, climate change, growing inequality, the threat of Big Brother  etc etc.</p>
<p>Elections?  What for? More of the same.<br />
Unless the world can evolve something much better than the much vaunted democratic system America and Britain is attempting to impose by force on mankind &#8211; in the interests of permanent growth and inequality &#8211; our so-called civilisation is at an end.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37648</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect for many Lib Dems the famous quip by Vince Cable about Mr Bean was one of their finest moments in 2007.
However although it was clever, it was also the politics of the playground. Amusing but not of any great substance. To be fair, Vince was proceding to make a more substantial point - but who can remember what that was?
A lot of what goes on in PMQs passes people by. It was said that William Hague was very good at them, but he was still soundly defeated.
I agree with Lynne, we should stop having PMQs. I do not see why we should pay our MPs to play silly games.
I do not think that Nick Clegg should give them much attention. I do not know if he would be good at them, but whether he is or isn&#039;t I prefer to see him campaigning in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect for many Lib Dems the famous quip by Vince Cable about Mr Bean was one of their finest moments in 2007.<br />
However although it was clever, it was also the politics of the playground. Amusing but not of any great substance. To be fair, Vince was proceding to make a more substantial point &#8211; but who can remember what that was?<br />
A lot of what goes on in PMQs passes people by. It was said that William Hague was very good at them, but he was still soundly defeated.<br />
I agree with Lynne, we should stop having PMQs. I do not see why we should pay our MPs to play silly games.<br />
I do not think that Nick Clegg should give them much attention. I do not know if he would be good at them, but whether he is or isn&#8217;t I prefer to see him campaigning in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Boydell</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37642</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Boydell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point raised is a valid one that I have been mulling over for a long while.  Every Wednesday I watch PMQs, necessary for my line of work, and as the weeks go on I am more and more inclined to avoid watching the bear baiting that goes on.  As I said to a colleague recently, what we see happen is basically bullying and, ironically, something that our government has strived to make illegal in our workplaces yet somehow sees as ok within PMQs- is this not a workplace too?  Apart from this is just adds to the idea of &#039;celebrity’ by reinforcing the idea that MPs are characters, or in fact caricatures, and this is embarrassing and not at all confidence inspiring!  How can we pressure for change- PMQs is just a waste of time and hugely embarrassing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point raised is a valid one that I have been mulling over for a long while.  Every Wednesday I watch PMQs, necessary for my line of work, and as the weeks go on I am more and more inclined to avoid watching the bear baiting that goes on.  As I said to a colleague recently, what we see happen is basically bullying and, ironically, something that our government has strived to make illegal in our workplaces yet somehow sees as ok within PMQs- is this not a workplace too?  Apart from this is just adds to the idea of &#8216;celebrity’ by reinforcing the idea that MPs are characters, or in fact caricatures, and this is embarrassing and not at all confidence inspiring!  How can we pressure for change- PMQs is just a waste of time and hugely embarrassing?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Hinchcliffe</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37607</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Hinchcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I agree with Mark (-:

I suspect &quot;Dave&quot; is a socialist posing as a Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I agree with Mark (-:</p>
<p>I suspect &#8220;Dave&#8221; is a socialist posing as a Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37606</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave: &quot;utter, utter crap&quot;, &quot;complete moron&quot; etc. I think you rather neatly make the point about how some people think politics and debate is about throwing around as many insults as you can :-) But why should the rest of us - and Parliament overall - descend to your level?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: &#8220;utter, utter crap&#8221;, &#8220;complete moron&#8221; etc. I think you rather neatly make the point about how some people think politics and debate is about throwing around as many insults as you can <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But why should the rest of us &#8211; and Parliament overall &#8211; descend to your level?</p>
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		<title>By: The Huntsman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37602</link>
		<dc:creator>The Huntsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise some points which ought periodically to be raised so that the parliamentary process is kept under scrutiny.

Although some issues are valid (I too hate the Ovine &amp; Bovine who ask either the planted question or the &#039;didn&#039;t he do well?!&#039; question), I would retain this element of procedure for one good reason.

Normally we never see the PM or Leader of the  Opposition in a situation of genuine pressure and stress. Usually they are in places of comfort of their own choosing or with people who do not do pressure. But of late we have had a jolly good look at GB under pressure and he has been clearly seen to be  a poor performer when stressed. The day when his hand shook is a case in point.

This is one way for us to judge him and  I believe it is a valid one.

And if there were no PMQs we should never have had Vince Cable&#039;s bon mots which so wounded GB to the  quick.

I suspect that one thing you want to do is to lay the ground for excuses lest your new boy cannot hack it, which I predict he will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise some points which ought periodically to be raised so that the parliamentary process is kept under scrutiny.</p>
<p>Although some issues are valid (I too hate the Ovine &amp; Bovine who ask either the planted question or the &#8216;didn&#8217;t he do well?!&#8217; question), I would retain this element of procedure for one good reason.</p>
<p>Normally we never see the PM or Leader of the  Opposition in a situation of genuine pressure and stress. Usually they are in places of comfort of their own choosing or with people who do not do pressure. But of late we have had a jolly good look at GB under pressure and he has been clearly seen to be  a poor performer when stressed. The day when his hand shook is a case in point.</p>
<p>This is one way for us to judge him and  I believe it is a valid one.</p>
<p>And if there were no PMQs we should never have had Vince Cable&#8217;s bon mots which so wounded GB to the  quick.</p>
<p>I suspect that one thing you want to do is to lay the ground for excuses lest your new boy cannot hack it, which I predict he will not.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37590</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested to know how many  MPs feel equally dissatisfied with PMQ and would like to see it changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested to know how many  MPs feel equally dissatisfied with PMQ and would like to see it changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37589</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utter utter crap from an apalling woman.

Politics, you complete moron, is about being animated, you are in the mother of all parliaments. Why shouldn&#039;t people get worked up? why shouldn&#039;t people heckle? 

Politics is about passion and believing in something, it is about debate, putting forward a point, a proposal, testing people&#039;s debating skills so that proper scrutiny of the PM can be carried out. The lower chamber isn&#039;t a whispering gallery so people can tip-toe around and it was never designed to be.

If you don&#039;t like it then you may as well leave. I don&#039;t think you&#039;d be particularly missed to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utter utter crap from an apalling woman.</p>
<p>Politics, you complete moron, is about being animated, you are in the mother of all parliaments. Why shouldn&#8217;t people get worked up? why shouldn&#8217;t people heckle? </p>
<p>Politics is about passion and believing in something, it is about debate, putting forward a point, a proposal, testing people&#8217;s debating skills so that proper scrutiny of the PM can be carried out. The lower chamber isn&#8217;t a whispering gallery so people can tip-toe around and it was never designed to be.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like it then you may as well leave. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d be particularly missed to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37577</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem of behaviour in politics goes much deeper than is thought. When choosing able politicians too much emphasis is given to the skills of &#039;debating&#039;(shouting down your opponent or talking round the issue?)and it is very much time for a new approach. Most people outside are very cynical and don&#039;t rate the shouting matches for anything more important than they are..., a total waste of precious time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem of behaviour in politics goes much deeper than is thought. When choosing able politicians too much emphasis is given to the skills of &#8216;debating&#8217;(shouting down your opponent or talking round the issue?)and it is very much time for a new approach. Most people outside are very cynical and don&#8217;t rate the shouting matches for anything more important than they are&#8230;, a total waste of precious time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or alternatively the Lib Dems could make better use of their only guaranteed weekly opportunity by asking better questions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or alternatively the Lib Dems could make better use of their only guaranteed weekly opportunity by asking better questions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mash, Tory, and yes, fourth passing Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37572</link>
		<dc:creator>Mash, Tory, and yes, fourth passing Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting article produced by the Member of Parliament for Wood Green and Hornsey.  I recall when Lynne raised this issue on her blog, where I suggested that Prime Minister&#039;s Questions ought to be extended for an hour or so. Prime Minister&#039;s Question Time (often referred to as PMQs) is an opportunity for MPs from all parties to question the PM on any subject. However, the period of time offered, is unacceptably short and therefore inadequate. In order to hold the Prime Minister accountable, thirty minutes is frankly not enough time. Additionally, there ought to be a public Question Time of the Prime Minister ensuring there is healthy accountability of our Prime Minister to the wider public. From a personal standpoint, I don&#039;t tend to judge my MP simply based upon what she affirms in PMQ, in actual fact, I monitor her comments via various mediums, EDMs and other mechanisms. The PMQ is inadequate to allow any constituent to make a real decision, unless your MP sits on the front benches.Lynne is and remains far more in tune than Barbara Roche, when she was the Labour MP for this particular area. She seems to listen, learn and then take the interest of her constituents forward.  However, there are further weaknesses, of course, but generally she has been far better in representing the interest of her constituents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting article produced by the Member of Parliament for Wood Green and Hornsey.  I recall when Lynne raised this issue on her blog, where I suggested that Prime Minister&#8217;s Questions ought to be extended for an hour or so. Prime Minister&#8217;s Question Time (often referred to as PMQs) is an opportunity for MPs from all parties to question the PM on any subject. However, the period of time offered, is unacceptably short and therefore inadequate. In order to hold the Prime Minister accountable, thirty minutes is frankly not enough time. Additionally, there ought to be a public Question Time of the Prime Minister ensuring there is healthy accountability of our Prime Minister to the wider public. From a personal standpoint, I don&#8217;t tend to judge my MP simply based upon what she affirms in PMQ, in actual fact, I monitor her comments via various mediums, EDMs and other mechanisms. The PMQ is inadequate to allow any constituent to make a real decision, unless your MP sits on the front benches.Lynne is and remains far more in tune than Barbara Roche, when she was the Labour MP for this particular area. She seems to listen, learn and then take the interest of her constituents forward.  However, there are further weaknesses, of course, but generally she has been far better in representing the interest of her constituents.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we avoid all the male/female references, please? It&#039;s boring as well as sexist - on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we avoid all the male/female references, please? It&#8217;s boring as well as sexist &#8211; on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: passing tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2PT et al.,

Of course you can put the case for the behaviour at PMQs putting people off politics. On balance, though, I don&#039;t think that it does. I strongly suspect it is one of those things where people proclaim one thing but, were we to change, they would rapidly tire of a more sanitised format. They get enough of politicians giving set answers to predictable questions as it is; I don&#039;t see that giving people more of this would really help.

And incidentally, when a really serious question is asked then the House does, in fact, tend to go quiet and both sides play by different rules. Take the last PMQs (how many people remember Cameron&#039;s first two questions about Kosovo?) The very fact that these serious sections do not make the news bulletins rather supports my hypothesis that the reason PMQs get the coverage it does is precisely because of the banter, rather than, as you posit, that it gets the coverage because of its status and the banter gets in the way.

And, at the risk of reiterating what I have said above, I think the reason for the success of PMQs (which, I will freely admit, is a rather bizarre process) comes down to the fact that it forces the politicians to express themselves not in the normal language of parliament but in something closer to the language of the street - more &quot;News of the World&quot; than &quot;The Times&quot;. As a result I don&#039;t think that changing this aspect is going to engage more people - it is more likely to have the opposite effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2PT et al.,</p>
<p>Of course you can put the case for the behaviour at PMQs putting people off politics. On balance, though, I don&#8217;t think that it does. I strongly suspect it is one of those things where people proclaim one thing but, were we to change, they would rapidly tire of a more sanitised format. They get enough of politicians giving set answers to predictable questions as it is; I don&#8217;t see that giving people more of this would really help.</p>
<p>And incidentally, when a really serious question is asked then the House does, in fact, tend to go quiet and both sides play by different rules. Take the last PMQs (how many people remember Cameron&#8217;s first two questions about Kosovo?) The very fact that these serious sections do not make the news bulletins rather supports my hypothesis that the reason PMQs get the coverage it does is precisely because of the banter, rather than, as you posit, that it gets the coverage because of its status and the banter gets in the way.</p>
<p>And, at the risk of reiterating what I have said above, I think the reason for the success of PMQs (which, I will freely admit, is a rather bizarre process) comes down to the fact that it forces the politicians to express themselves not in the normal language of parliament but in something closer to the language of the street &#8211; more &#8220;News of the World&#8221; than &#8220;The Times&#8221;. As a result I don&#8217;t think that changing this aspect is going to engage more people &#8211; it is more likely to have the opposite effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Falchikov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Falchikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With rare exceptions, PMQs only elicit superficial answers to inadequate questions and provide an excuse for posturing and silly would-be macho rhetoric.  Passing Tory&#039;s example of Cameron&#039;s question to Brown  &quot;Can we believe...&quot; illustrates the 
pointlessness of it all - silly question which leads to silly arrogant answer.  And it isn&#039;t just a male preserve - seem to recall Thatcher&#039;s bullying manner at PMQs.
Altogether a poor example both of democratic practice and personal behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With rare exceptions, PMQs only elicit superficial answers to inadequate questions and provide an excuse for posturing and silly would-be macho rhetoric.  Passing Tory&#8217;s example of Cameron&#8217;s question to Brown  &#8220;Can we believe&#8230;&#8221; illustrates the<br />
pointlessness of it all &#8211; silly question which leads to silly arrogant answer.  And it isn&#8217;t just a male preserve &#8211; seem to recall Thatcher&#8217;s bullying manner at PMQs.<br />
Altogether a poor example both of democratic practice and personal behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or would you deny that the manner in which PMQs is conducted is generally a turn off for a sizeable proportion of voters?&quot;

... The vast majority, I&#039;d say. PMQs is an exemplar of the wider malaise; media training leads to weaseling away from answering questions unless you can answer them with a quote from the manifesto or an insult to a political opponent. This contributes to the public perception that all politicians are lying weaselly bastards who are incapable of answering a question straightly. The fact that PMQs involves ramping up the volume and shouting the insults and weaselly obfuscation rather than saying it quietly to Paxman just makes it worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or would you deny that the manner in which PMQs is conducted is generally a turn off for a sizeable proportion of voters?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; The vast majority, I&#8217;d say. PMQs is an exemplar of the wider malaise; media training leads to weaseling away from answering questions unless you can answer them with a quote from the manifesto or an insult to a political opponent. This contributes to the public perception that all politicians are lying weaselly bastards who are incapable of answering a question straightly. The fact that PMQs involves ramping up the volume and shouting the insults and weaselly obfuscation rather than saying it quietly to Paxman just makes it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Passing Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37540</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Passing Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Passing Tory,

&#039;They are forced to make their case concisely, and in demotic terms, and will get turned on very quickly and loudly if they fail.&#039;

I admit that it is true that if the question is answered unsatisfactorily or unreasonably (as in my example of Brown and the election above), then it is basically inevitable that the resulting jeers will signify, albeit in an undignified manner, that the answer given by the PM was unsatisfactory. Thus, the questioner effectively (but implictly) scores a point and the PM loses.

Though I recognise some force in the points you raise above, perhaps it may,  at the same time, be submitted that the unedifying character of PMQs is partly responsible for the increasing disengagement and disillusionment by the electorate with the political process. This would appear especially to be the case since PMQs is broadcast and analysed to a greater extent than other such scrutinies. Or would you deny that the manner in which PMQs is conducted is generally a turn off for a sizeable proportion of voters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passing Tory,</p>
<p>&#8216;They are forced to make their case concisely, and in demotic terms, and will get turned on very quickly and loudly if they fail.&#8217;</p>
<p>I admit that it is true that if the question is answered unsatisfactorily or unreasonably (as in my example of Brown and the election above), then it is basically inevitable that the resulting jeers will signify, albeit in an undignified manner, that the answer given by the PM was unsatisfactory. Thus, the questioner effectively (but implictly) scores a point and the PM loses.</p>
<p>Though I recognise some force in the points you raise above, perhaps it may,  at the same time, be submitted that the unedifying character of PMQs is partly responsible for the increasing disengagement and disillusionment by the electorate with the political process. This would appear especially to be the case since PMQs is broadcast and analysed to a greater extent than other such scrutinies. Or would you deny that the manner in which PMQs is conducted is generally a turn off for a sizeable proportion of voters?</p>
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		<title>By: 3rd Passing Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37539</link>
		<dc:creator>3rd Passing Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As ever, this is an interesting debate. I think it shows clearly that different people have different ideas of what PMQs is actually for.

Lynne is quite right that it doesn&#039;t achieve what she wants it to achieve, and Passing Tory is quite right that is does achieve what he wants it to.

So the real question is not &#039;is PMQs fit for purpose&#039;, but rather &#039;what is the purpose of PMQs&#039;?

I tend to agree that Lynne&#039;s suggestion of sending the PM off around the country would not lead to a greater scrutiny, but would lead to a series of dull, carefully stage-managed events. I also find myself thinking, surely the PM has more important things to be doing (like running the country) than traipsing around the regions.

I think that our current system is probably best: the Liaison Committee does the detailed forensic questioning (and look how few people bother watching!! But it is valuable stuff - perhaps allow them to question the PM more often), while PMQs provides an opportunity for the PM to held to account publicly over the main issues of the week - with the public able to decide fore themselves whether he is answering the questions satisfactorily or whether he is evadint them. As PT says - the mood of the House is often a very good indicator of how well the PM and the Govt is doing over particular issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever, this is an interesting debate. I think it shows clearly that different people have different ideas of what PMQs is actually for.</p>
<p>Lynne is quite right that it doesn&#8217;t achieve what she wants it to achieve, and Passing Tory is quite right that is does achieve what he wants it to.</p>
<p>So the real question is not &#8216;is PMQs fit for purpose&#8217;, but rather &#8216;what is the purpose of PMQs&#8217;?</p>
<p>I tend to agree that Lynne&#8217;s suggestion of sending the PM off around the country would not lead to a greater scrutiny, but would lead to a series of dull, carefully stage-managed events. I also find myself thinking, surely the PM has more important things to be doing (like running the country) than traipsing around the regions.</p>
<p>I think that our current system is probably best: the Liaison Committee does the detailed forensic questioning (and look how few people bother watching!! But it is valuable stuff &#8211; perhaps allow them to question the PM more often), while PMQs provides an opportunity for the PM to held to account publicly over the main issues of the week &#8211; with the public able to decide fore themselves whether he is answering the questions satisfactorily or whether he is evadint them. As PT says &#8211; the mood of the House is often a very good indicator of how well the PM and the Govt is doing over particular issues.</p>
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		<title>By: passing tory</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/prime-ministers-questions-1913.html#comment-37521</link>
		<dc:creator>passing tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2PT,

I used to hold views similar to Lynne and you but have changed after careful reflection.

To take the point that you make about the greater audience meaning that the PM has to give a fuller response first. I think that the reason that PMQs get the coverage that it does is precisely because of the way that complex issues are turned into small soundbites that capture the essence of the problem. Brown after all does get examined by the Press under more controlled conditions and that usually gets far less coverage than PMQs, and it not more enlightening. 

In fact, PMQs is one of the few times that politicans banter in the way that people might down the pub (and it isn&#039;t all guys down the boozer, Lynne), and I think it would be a pity to loose this. I often feel that some of the cleverest guys in &quot;Fleet Street&quot; are not the profound political commentators for the broadsheets, but the guys in the tabloids who are able to distill down complex arguments into easily digestable ideas. PMQs in its current format forces this from politicians, and I don&#039;t think this is a bad thing.

Your two other points are linked, I think. Would Brown fully answer the question if the format was sanitised? No, he wouldn&#039;t, as any check against his press conferences or select committee appearances will testify to. You would just get slightly more sophisticated dodging. The value of PMQs is that someone trying this on will (a) be seen as a crushing boor and (b) get jeered to the rafters. So, what at first glance appears to be schoolboy behaviour in fact acts as a barometer of performance. And the guys I am interested in are not those who are jeering, supporting their guy, but those who cannot bring themselves to (and this has been quite a number on the government benches in recent weeks).

Lynne, and a number of commentators, have said that they don&#039;t think that PMQs is effective at what it sets out to achieve. Thats depends a little on what you are expecting it to achieve, of course. If you are after a forensic examination of the governments performance then you are in the wrong place. But Lynne says it fails to hold the PM to account. I think the opposite, that it holds the PM (and the leaders of the other parties) to account extremely well. They are forced to make their case concisely, and in demotic terms, and will get turned on very quickly and loudly if they fail. Therefore, although on first inspection it might appear unedifying, I think in reality it is highly informative in a way that a more sanitised format would not be. Which it why I would have severe reservations about changing this aspect.

By all means send the PM around the country during recess to answer questions from the public, although I think it would be wrong to see this as a direct extension to PMQs as it would tell you something very different (and, I think you would have to guard against heavy manipulation of these events, as seen with the citizen juries).

It also puzzles me slightly why Lynne feels that she has to wait until her name comes out of the hat at PMQs to ask the PM a question. Is the art of letter writing, or composing an email, completely dead? Or are MPs increasingly willing only to ask a question for the benefit of the cameras so that their constituents can see them on TV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2PT,</p>
<p>I used to hold views similar to Lynne and you but have changed after careful reflection.</p>
<p>To take the point that you make about the greater audience meaning that the PM has to give a fuller response first. I think that the reason that PMQs get the coverage that it does is precisely because of the way that complex issues are turned into small soundbites that capture the essence of the problem. Brown after all does get examined by the Press under more controlled conditions and that usually gets far less coverage than PMQs, and it not more enlightening. </p>
<p>In fact, PMQs is one of the few times that politicans banter in the way that people might down the pub (and it isn&#8217;t all guys down the boozer, Lynne), and I think it would be a pity to loose this. I often feel that some of the cleverest guys in &#8220;Fleet Street&#8221; are not the profound political commentators for the broadsheets, but the guys in the tabloids who are able to distill down complex arguments into easily digestable ideas. PMQs in its current format forces this from politicians, and I don&#8217;t think this is a bad thing.</p>
<p>Your two other points are linked, I think. Would Brown fully answer the question if the format was sanitised? No, he wouldn&#8217;t, as any check against his press conferences or select committee appearances will testify to. You would just get slightly more sophisticated dodging. The value of PMQs is that someone trying this on will (a) be seen as a crushing boor and (b) get jeered to the rafters. So, what at first glance appears to be schoolboy behaviour in fact acts as a barometer of performance. And the guys I am interested in are not those who are jeering, supporting their guy, but those who cannot bring themselves to (and this has been quite a number on the government benches in recent weeks).</p>
<p>Lynne, and a number of commentators, have said that they don&#8217;t think that PMQs is effective at what it sets out to achieve. Thats depends a little on what you are expecting it to achieve, of course. If you are after a forensic examination of the governments performance then you are in the wrong place. But Lynne says it fails to hold the PM to account. I think the opposite, that it holds the PM (and the leaders of the other parties) to account extremely well. They are forced to make their case concisely, and in demotic terms, and will get turned on very quickly and loudly if they fail. Therefore, although on first inspection it might appear unedifying, I think in reality it is highly informative in a way that a more sanitised format would not be. Which it why I would have severe reservations about changing this aspect.</p>
<p>By all means send the PM around the country during recess to answer questions from the public, although I think it would be wrong to see this as a direct extension to PMQs as it would tell you something very different (and, I think you would have to guard against heavy manipulation of these events, as seen with the citizen juries).</p>
<p>It also puzzles me slightly why Lynne feels that she has to wait until her name comes out of the hat at PMQs to ask the PM a question. Is the art of letter writing, or composing an email, completely dead? Or are MPs increasingly willing only to ask a question for the benefit of the cameras so that their constituents can see them on TV?</p>
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