Correction. You mean as places where children can develop the Islamic identity of their parents . . . which children, to whom if true freedom of expression were granted, might choose no such thing.

I am simply noting what I believe could happen – a faith schools gets a reputation for being “good”, so a lot of people who are not of that faith apply for their children to go to it. As faith is not allowed to be an element on picking who gets places, those people’s children get places. Children of the faith community which built and nurtured that school do not get places.

So why should the school carry on being “religious” when it no longer caters for the faith community who built it? Those people have been squeezed out, perhaps they will resort to using Sunday schools and the like to pass on their culture instead.

Why should I if I were a governor of such a school bother putting in the huge amount of effort I put into it, if it no longer has the connection to the parish community of which I am a part, and educates the children of those I know as part of my community? What you want to do, Joe, in my view – it is my view, and I write from experience, and I do not wish to hurt anyone by saying it, so if you wish to accuse me of writing a “vicious lie” please tell me what is vicious about it and why it is a lie – is in effect to destroy all that motivates people to put in effort and make these schools good schools.

No, not like that at all. Because religious instruction is indoctrination for the simple reason that when it comes to the central tenets of religion, there are “no clear facts to be ascertained.” That last phrase comprises the precise words used by Rowan Williams when I saw him last year.

I’m afraid that if there are “no clear facts to be ascertained,” then indoctrination is all that remains.

State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue. According to a number of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual
Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslims
have the right to educate their children in an environment that suits their
culture. This notion of “integration”, actually means “assimilation”, by
which people generally really mean “be more like me”. That is not
multiculturalism. In Sydney, Muslims were refused to build a Muslim school,
because of a protest by the residents. Yet a year later, permission was
given for the building of a Catholic school and no protests from the
residents. This clrearly shows the blatant hypocrisy, double standards and racism. Christians oppose Muslim schools in western countries yet build
their own religious schools.

British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional
racism. The result is that Muslim children are unable to develop
self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leave schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. Every native child is born with a gene or virus of racism, therefore, no law could change the attitudes of racism towards those who are different. It is not only the common man, even member of the royal family is involved in racism. The
father of a Pakistani office cadet who was called a “Paki” by Prince Harry
has profoundly condemned his actions. He had felt proud when he met the
Queen and the Prince of Wales at his son’s passing out parade at Sandhurst
in 2006 but now felt upset after learning about the Prince’s comments. Queen Victoria invited an Imam from India to teach her Urdu language. He was highly respected by the Queen but other members of the royal family had no respect for him. He was forced to go back to India. His protrait is still in
one of the royal places.

There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Let’s promote a world where reason is valued more highly than dogma, and put an end to the illogical emotion-based rubbish we’ve seen flying out of Government for decades.

Thanks. That makes better sense.

My problem now is that I don’t understand in what sense they would be faith schools, if they weren’t allowed to select either staff or pupils on the basis of faith.

4.7.7 Balancing these freedoms, rights and aspirations is not easy. It requires compromises.
Liberal Democrats would:
• Allow parents to continue to choose faith-based schools within the state funded sector, and allow the establishment of new faith schools.
• Ban selection by faith from new faith schools, and require all existing state-funded faith schools to phase out selection by faith in admissions within five years.
• End the opt out from employment and equalities legislation for staff in faith schools, except those responsible for religious instruction.
• Require schools who choose to hold assemblies to ensure that any act of collective worship is optional for pupils who are old enough to decide for themselves and otherwise for parents.

It speaks only of preventing new state schools selecting by faith, and preventing existing state schools starting to select by faith. Clearly, meaning state schools that don’t select by faith already.