Comments on: The Grauniad – pathetic, just pathetic http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html Our place to talk - an independent website for supporters of the Liberal Democrat party in the UK. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:55:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stuart http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29938 Stuart Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:03:39 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29938 Chris (1), you refer to, "some very poor local election results". Do you mean the results this year when we came just 1% behind the governing party and scored the second highest share of the vote we have ever achieved? I assume you just swallowed the inaccurate media line without any independent thought of your own. Which is kind of Stephen's point about the media having its own agenda. Chris (1), you refer to, “some very poor local election results”. Do you mean the results this year when we came just 1% behind the governing party and scored the second highest share of the vote we have ever achieved? I assume you just swallowed the inaccurate media line without any independent thought of your own. Which is kind of Stephen’s point about the media having its own agenda.

]]> By: Father Tall http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29934 Father Tall Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:01:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29934 Don't bother, Paul, I'm right here reading and noting. I shall send him to bed without any tea when I next catch up with him. Whatever you do, don't think he was taught his Anglo-Saxon vocab at home. It all began to go downhill when he was deprived of reading what he likes to call "The Torygraph". Father Tall Don’t bother, Paul, I’m right here reading and noting. I shall send him to bed without any tea when I next catch up with him. Whatever you do, don’t think he was taught his Anglo-Saxon vocab at home. It all began to go downhill when he was deprived of reading what he likes to call “The Torygraph”.
Father Tall

]]> By: Paul Walter http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29897 Paul Walter Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:23:36 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29897 " “Trivia not policy”, Matt? Bollocks. Why not look here: " Really! Stephen! I'll report you to Father Tall! ” “Trivia not policy”, Matt? Bollocks. Why not look here: ”

Really! Stephen! I’ll report you to Father Tall!

]]> By: Tristan Mills http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29881 Tristan Mills Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:46:38 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29881 I'm not a bit surprised, the days of the Guardian being the least bit liberal are long gone (as my grandmother said, it went downhill when it ceased to be the Manchester Guardian ;) ) Its a mainly Labour supporting paper which is going increasingly tabloid-like (as is the Independent), this sort of thing will be common. The fact that Polly Toynbee is paid so much to write such drivel has to be a sure sign that the paper isn't that serious surely? I’m not a bit surprised, the days of the Guardian being the least bit liberal are long gone (as my grandmother said, it went downhill when it ceased to be the Manchester Guardian ;) )

Its a mainly Labour supporting paper which is going increasingly tabloid-like (as is the Independent), this sort of thing will be common.
The fact that Polly Toynbee is paid so much to write such drivel has to be a sure sign that the paper isn’t that serious surely?

]]> By: Stephen Tall http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29880 Stephen Tall Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:30:25 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29880 "Trivia not policy", Matt? Bollocks. Why not look here: http://www.libdemvoice.org/category/op-eds/ Trivia <strong>and </strong>policy - now that's more like it :) “Trivia not policy”, Matt? Bollocks. Why not look here: http://www.libdemvoice.org/category/op-eds/

Trivia and policy – now that’s more like it :)

]]> By: Paul Walter http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29877 Paul Walter Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:23:44 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29877 If it was a "gaffe", all he has to do now is make a joke and say at the end of it "I'm a success" and he's even, isn't he? Breathe in, breathe out.... If it was a “gaffe”, all he has to do now is make a joke and say at the end of it “I’m a success” and he’s even, isn’t he?

Breathe in, breathe out….

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29872 Matt Wardman Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:05:34 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29872 Have to say that given the habit of LDV of featuring and then puffing political trivia not policy, there's more than a bit of "pot-kettle-black" going on here. My view via the link on my name Matt Have to say that given the habit of LDV of featuring and then puffing political trivia not policy, there’s more than a bit of “pot-kettle-black” going on here.

My view via the link on my name

Matt

]]> By: Ian Ridley http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29871 Ian Ridley Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:03:37 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29871 Well that's my future purchases of the Grauniad gone for a while... Well that’s my future purchases of the Grauniad gone for a while…

]]> By: Richard George http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29864 Richard George Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:35:59 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29864 The Guardian's had it in for the LDs for months, at least since the local elections. I gave up reading it in favour of the Indy a while back. As LD policies tend to naturally fit the self-proclaimed politics of that alleged paper (when they're not too busy giving voice to every right-wing halfwit in sight, in the name of "balance"), this frequently makes them look like a right bunch of prats. The Guardian’s had it in for the LDs for months, at least since the local elections. I gave up reading it in favour of the Indy a while back.

As LD policies tend to naturally fit the self-proclaimed politics of that alleged paper (when they’re not too busy giving voice to every right-wing halfwit in sight, in the name of “balance”), this frequently makes them look like a right bunch of prats.

]]> By: Matt Sellwood http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29862 Matt Sellwood Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:03:38 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29862 Oops, that comment above was me, btw. Oops, that comment above was me, btw.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29861 Anonymous Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:03:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29861 Chris, I don't agree at all. Even as a member of another party I get frustrated with this kind of nonsense from the media, so god knows what it must be like as a Lib Dem. I would like Liberal Democrat policies to be reported. I would like the policies of my party to be reported. Then we could have an informed discussion about whose ideas are better (mine obviously...!) instead of Ming vs Nick vs Chris vs anyone else the media have thought of from the top of their heads, which just completely wastes my time.... Matt Chris,

I don’t agree at all. Even as a member of another party I get frustrated with this kind of nonsense from the media, so god knows what it must be like as a Lib Dem.

I would like Liberal Democrat policies to be reported. I would like the policies of my party to be reported. Then we could have an informed discussion about whose ideas are better (mine obviously…!) instead of Ming vs Nick vs Chris vs anyone else the media have thought of from the top of their heads, which just completely wastes my time….

Matt

]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29856 Chris Paul Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:26:14 +0000 http://www.libdemvoice.org/the-grauniad-pathetic-just-pathetic-1347.html#comment-29856 It was a gaffe. Four words that count. Like: I am a failure. Actually Ming is far better than what comes next. But he did say these words and for Lib Dem activists to be bleating about quotes out of context (and ditto many political activists of any party including my own) is just plain silly. Especially when spoken in jest or not it is technically true after some very poor local election results. You're adding fuel to the flames by complaining. IMO. It was a gaffe.

Four words that count.

Like:

I am a failure.

Actually Ming is far better than what comes next. But he did say these words and for Lib Dem activists to be bleating about quotes out of context (and ditto many political activists of any party including my own) is just plain silly.

Especially when spoken in jest or not it is technically true after some very poor local election results.

You’re adding fuel to the flames by complaining. IMO.

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