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	<title>Comments on: Tom tries to put the Brake on Google Street View</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Page</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94591</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;d like it if Google&#039;s mapping information and photography *were* in the public domain rather than remaining under Google&#039;s copyright, but that&#039;s another matter entirely, and probably unreasonable of me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like it if Google&#8217;s mapping information and photography *were* in the public domain rather than remaining under Google&#8217;s copyright, but that&#8217;s another matter entirely, and probably unreasonable of me <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94567</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see so many people in agreement.
Google is not showing anything which cannot be seen from a public right of way (there have been cases where they went down a private road and had to take the images down - which is the right thing to do).

Generally they seem to go beyond the strictly necessary too - they blur people&#039;s faces and license plates and will remove images upon request.

Tom Brake is sounding a bit reactionary - perhaps its the big business aspect (which does lead to some concerns with Google), or perhaps its just a bit of good old fear of new technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see so many people in agreement.<br />
Google is not showing anything which cannot be seen from a public right of way (there have been cases where they went down a private road and had to take the images down &#8211; which is the right thing to do).</p>
<p>Generally they seem to go beyond the strictly necessary too &#8211; they blur people&#8217;s faces and license plates and will remove images upon request.</p>
<p>Tom Brake is sounding a bit reactionary &#8211; perhaps its the big business aspect (which does lead to some concerns with Google), or perhaps its just a bit of good old fear of new technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94563</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom doesn&#039;t sound very smart.

He says, &quot;putting such images into the public domain&quot;, as if the images weren&#039;t taken in public spaces anyway! He says, &quot;Google must show even greater respect for privacy that on the street&quot;, but we don&#039;t have privacy on the street! It&#039;s a public area!

Thumbs down from me too here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom doesn&#8217;t sound very smart.</p>
<p>He says, &#8220;putting such images into the public domain&#8221;, as if the images weren&#8217;t taken in public spaces anyway! He says, &#8220;Google must show even greater respect for privacy that on the street&#8221;, but we don&#8217;t have privacy on the street! It&#8217;s a public area!</p>
<p>Thumbs down from me too here.</p>
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		<title>By: simonsez</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94561</link>
		<dc:creator>simonsez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
you are barking up the wrong tree here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
you are barking up the wrong tree here!</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94559</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would an image of a street at some indeterminate point several months earlier be useful in fighting crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would an image of a street at some indeterminate point several months earlier be useful in fighting crime?</p>
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		<title>By: ColinW</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94557</link>
		<dc:creator>ColinW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he&#039;s wrong over this. Just another example of misplaced concerns like the problems the trainspotters &amp; railway togs were finding from over-zealous police earlier this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he&#8217;s wrong over this. Just another example of misplaced concerns like the problems the trainspotters &amp; railway togs were finding from over-zealous police earlier this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94554</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t understand the fuss about Streetview, it doesn&#039;t show anything I couldn&#039;t find myself just by taking a walk down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t understand the fuss about Streetview, it doesn&#8217;t show anything I couldn&#8217;t find myself just by taking a walk down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy H</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94550</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel instinctively that this a rare occasion on which Tom risks landing on the wrong side of the debate.  Obviously the Information Commissioner &amp; other relevant authorities must be consulted.  However, a blanket opposition to expanding Google Street View on privacy grounds would be wrong. I hope Tom won&#039;t tilt over into such a knee-jerk opposition.

One could just as easily headline the blogpost above as &#039;Lib Dem MP tries to block access to information which is already in the public domain&#039;.   

I presume Tom doesn&#039;t want a new law to prevent me taking a photo of some trees on a public footpath &amp; then uploading the piccie to flickr?   But that is essentially what Google is doing  - admittedly on a massive scale.

Sounds to me like this new iteration of Street View, including taking photos of sites such as Stonehenge will likely:
- Increase tourism to the countryside at a time when the rural economy desperately needs it.
- Provide an inspiration for people to rediscover our public footpaths &amp; other walkways thus increasing exercise in a nation suffering an obesity crisis. 

A party that has a long &amp; distinguished history of supporting greater access for ramblers to the countryside should follow the logic of that support. 

(Just for the sake of clarity I hold no brief for google and myself have significant concerns about, for example, its seemingly cavalier attitude to authors&#039; Intellectual Property).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel instinctively that this a rare occasion on which Tom risks landing on the wrong side of the debate.  Obviously the Information Commissioner &amp; other relevant authorities must be consulted.  However, a blanket opposition to expanding Google Street View on privacy grounds would be wrong. I hope Tom won&#8217;t tilt over into such a knee-jerk opposition.</p>
<p>One could just as easily headline the blogpost above as &#8216;Lib Dem MP tries to block access to information which is already in the public domain&#8217;.   </p>
<p>I presume Tom doesn&#8217;t want a new law to prevent me taking a photo of some trees on a public footpath &amp; then uploading the piccie to flickr?   But that is essentially what Google is doing  &#8211; admittedly on a massive scale.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like this new iteration of Street View, including taking photos of sites such as Stonehenge will likely:<br />
- Increase tourism to the countryside at a time when the rural economy desperately needs it.<br />
- Provide an inspiration for people to rediscover our public footpaths &amp; other walkways thus increasing exercise in a nation suffering an obesity crisis. </p>
<p>A party that has a long &amp; distinguished history of supporting greater access for ramblers to the countryside should follow the logic of that support. </p>
<p>(Just for the sake of clarity I hold no brief for google and myself have significant concerns about, for example, its seemingly cavalier attitude to authors&#8217; Intellectual Property).</p>
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		<title>By: Mapper99</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/tom-tires-to-put-the-brake-on-google-street-view-15638.html#comment-94548</link>
		<dc:creator>Mapper99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out some of these Google Street View privacy invasions:

http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out some of these Google Street View privacy invasions:</p>
<p><a href="http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/" rel="nofollow">http://streetviewgallery.corank.com/</a></p>
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