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	<title>Comments on: Top of the Blogs: The Golden Dozen #54</title>
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		<title>By: Lib Dem member</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-dozen-54-2268.html#comment-41646</link>
		<dc:creator>Lib Dem member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Shaw:- I have not read all your blog posts, and have forgotten some I am sure. My main memory is that when you mention another Liberal Democrat blogger it is almost always just to criticise them. I wonder if your question is best answered by yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Shaw:- I have not read all your blog posts, and have forgotten some I am sure. My main memory is that when you mention another Liberal Democrat blogger it is almost always just to criticise them. I wonder if your question is best answered by yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it sheer coincidence that whenever certain bloggers are around there is always bitchyness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it sheer coincidence that whenever certain bloggers are around there is always bitchyness?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilcock</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-dozen-54-2268.html#comment-41619</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wilcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, you&#039;re so right, Jo. The London Borough of Oxford and the London Borough of Lincoln are in a giant conspiracy to...

Oh, hang on ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, you&#8217;re so right, Jo. The London Borough of Oxford and the London Borough of Lincoln are in a giant conspiracy to&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, hang on <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-dozen-54-2268.html#comment-41615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am putting my knitting down long enough to say this so you should be very flattered indeed :@)

I think it&#039;s the London issue rearing its head again :@)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am putting my knitting down long enough to say this so you should be very flattered indeed :@)</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s the London issue rearing its head again :@)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

this is something fun, that you get for free, and it costs effort on the part of the people who do it for you... why are you trying to make it more complicated for them?

Ryan,

thanks for counting clicks, even though I never make it above the line on the list :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>this is something fun, that you get for free, and it costs effort on the part of the people who do it for you&#8230; why are you trying to make it more complicated for them?</p>
<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>thanks for counting clicks, even though I never make it above the line on the list <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,  What a curious thing to say -&quot;Bob, I’m not publishing the numbers, as that in turn could lead to vote rigging&quot;. Are you implying that some people are that desperate to get on the list they will stop at nothing?  Also, can you explain how actually publishing the numbers would lead to vote rigging? You have just said how the figures are calcuated so if people wanted to fiddle the count they already could. All I am asking for is clarity - what is wrong with simply saying No 1 Jo A with 50 click throughs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,  What a curious thing to say -&#8221;Bob, I’m not publishing the numbers, as that in turn could lead to vote rigging&#8221;. Are you implying that some people are that desperate to get on the list they will stop at nothing?  Also, can you explain how actually publishing the numbers would lead to vote rigging? You have just said how the figures are calcuated so if people wanted to fiddle the count they already could. All I am asking for is clarity &#8211; what is wrong with simply saying No 1 Jo A with 50 click throughs?</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Golden Dozen is perfect as it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Golden Dozen is perfect as it is!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Hargreaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Hargreaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The points Ryan makes about what the count is actually a count of are very good ones. The count above doesn&#039;t show &#039;the most read Lib Dem blogposts of the week&#039;, and Ryan has never claimed it does. For example, people who (unlike me!) who are not very dependent on the aggregator, and have built up their own readership, will gets lots of readers who never go near Libdemblogs. 

None of this is in the slightest way a criticism of libdemblogs, which I think most people who read the Lib Dem blogosphere would be completely lost without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The points Ryan makes about what the count is actually a count of are very good ones. The count above doesn&#8217;t show &#8216;the most read Lib Dem blogposts of the week&#8217;, and Ryan has never claimed it does. For example, people who (unlike me!) who are not very dependent on the aggregator, and have built up their own readership, will gets lots of readers who never go near Libdemblogs. </p>
<p>None of this is in the slightest way a criticism of libdemblogs, which I think most people who read the Lib Dem blogosphere would be completely lost without.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Jo&lt;/b&gt;, it&#039;s the same code every week, just with &lt;a href=&quot;&lt;b&gt;THE LINK IN THE ADDRESS BAR&lt;/b&gt;&quot;&gt; changing each time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Jo</b>, it&#8217;s the same code every week, just with &lt;a href=&#8221;<b>THE LINK IN THE ADDRESS BAR</b>&#8220;&gt; changing each time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cullen</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-dozen-54-2268.html#comment-41590</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I&#039;m not publishing the numbers, as that in turn could lead to vote rigging ;)
The clicks are only counted by people who are visiting LibDemBlogs, and then click on the title of a post which goes to the actuall blog post. Clicks to the blog itself aren&#039;t counted, and clicks via the RSS feed aren&#039;t either. It&#039;s also not possible to count the people who visit your blog via their bookmarks or links on other peoples blogs.
However as everyone is in the same boat, and the top 7 never claims to be anything else than &quot;the seven most popular stories according to click-throughs from the Aggregator&quot;, I&#039;m not that worried that every page view isn&#039;t counted.
Also if you want to get blog stats sign up for one of the many free services including &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/analytics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Analytics&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitemeter.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sitemeter&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I&#8217;m not publishing the numbers, as that in turn could lead to vote rigging <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The clicks are only counted by people who are visiting LibDemBlogs, and then click on the title of a post which goes to the actuall blog post. Clicks to the blog itself aren&#8217;t counted, and clicks via the RSS feed aren&#8217;t either. It&#8217;s also not possible to count the people who visit your blog via their bookmarks or links on other peoples blogs.<br />
However as everyone is in the same boat, and the top 7 never claims to be anything else than &#8220;the seven most popular stories according to click-throughs from the Aggregator&#8221;, I&#8217;m not that worried that every page view isn&#8217;t counted.<br />
Also if you want to get blog stats sign up for one of the many free services including <a href="http://www.google.com/analytics/" rel="nofollow">Google Analytics</a>, or <a href="http://www.sitemeter.com/" rel="nofollow">Sitemeter</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex &amp; Stephen - thanks that&#039;s nifty :@) If you wanted to code a box from scratch how would you do it? Is there a formula you follow? I have noticed that it follows a kind of pattern...:@)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &amp; Stephen &#8211; thanks that&#8217;s nifty :@) If you wanted to code a box from scratch how would you do it? Is there a formula you follow? I have noticed that it follows a kind of pattern&#8230;:@)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

Thanks for the tip. Is that a no then - you can&#039;t post the numbers?  Perhaps Ryan can just tell you the numbers and you can write them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip. Is that a no then &#8211; you can&#8217;t post the numbers?  Perhaps Ryan can just tell you the numbers and you can write them?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Tall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Tall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - ref the stats, they&#039;re provided by Ryan Cullen. (And can be independently verfied :)) Whether you appear in the top 7 often depends on the time of the week you post - posting something controversial on Wed/Thur is much more likely to make it into the top 7 than something posted over the weekend.

Jo/Alex - forgot to ad the code, sorry. Now in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; ref the stats, they&#8217;re provided by Ryan Cullen. (And can be independently verfied <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) Whether you appear in the top 7 often depends on the time of the week you post &#8211; posting something controversial on Wed/Thur is much more likely to make it into the top 7 than something posted over the weekend.</p>
<p>Jo/Alex &#8211; forgot to ad the code, sorry. Now in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Wilcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top tip: there&#039;s an easy way to make your own little yellow box (as it were). Just find any of the old ones, and replace the number in there with the one from the URL at the top here - in this case, &quot;54-2268&quot;.

I suspect people of greater technical accomplishment can tell you all the right words for bits of code, but I just worked it out as a &#039;spot the difference&#039; puzzle ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top tip: there&#8217;s an easy way to make your own little yellow box (as it were). Just find any of the old ones, and replace the number in there with the one from the URL at the top here &#8211; in this case, &#8220;54-2268&#8243;.</p>
<p>I suspect people of greater technical accomplishment can tell you all the right words for bits of code, but I just worked it out as a &#8216;spot the difference&#8217; puzzle <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little post-it note for Stephen...where&#039;s the little yellow box that usually links to The Golden Dozen? It&#039;s just I haven&#039;t been in for the last month so it would be nice to put an update box on my blog...

Thanks you :@))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little post-it note for Stephen&#8230;where&#8217;s the little yellow box that usually links to The Golden Dozen? It&#8217;s just I haven&#8217;t been in for the last month so it would be nice to put an update box on my blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks you :@))</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you Jo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you Jo!</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-dozen-54-2268.html#comment-41548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &#039;fevered imagination&#039;? I just made a cool £150 out of it!!!

Be nice if someone paid me the same rate on here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8216;fevered imagination&#8217;? I just made a cool £150 out of it!!!</p>
<p>Be nice if someone paid me the same rate on here!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Following on from the TV phone rigging scandal is there any chance you can publish the click through totals when you publish the results.  I do not have a counter on my site and although my posts sometimes stay in the top five for a couple of days I never seem to get the numkbers? Cheers - if anyone wants to think this is sour grapes - its not - but think what you want.  Its a free world - well for now it is anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Following on from the TV phone rigging scandal is there any chance you can publish the click through totals when you publish the results.  I do not have a counter on my site and although my posts sometimes stay in the top five for a couple of days I never seem to get the numkbers? Cheers &#8211; if anyone wants to think this is sour grapes &#8211; its not &#8211; but think what you want.  Its a free world &#8211; well for now it is anyways.</p>
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