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	<title>Comments on: Top of the Blogs: The Golden Ton (Nos. 11-20)</title>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96272</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, haven&#039;t you got some constitutions you should be reading? OK don&#039;t tell me. You have read them all and know them all off by heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, haven&#8217;t you got some constitutions you should be reading? OK don&#8217;t tell me. You have read them all and know them all off by heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96257</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of weighting them by number of readers is a good one though. Can anyone let me have the figures? It will give me something to do when I&#039;m not drafting the first ever Focus leaflet with a Valladares on it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of weighting them by number of readers is a good one though. Can anyone let me have the figures? It will give me something to do when I&#8217;m not drafting the first ever Focus leaflet with a Valladares on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96255</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a pluralist! That&#039;s why I want you to do MORE work, not less! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a pluralist! That&#8217;s why I want you to do MORE work, not less! <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96254</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

Had a headache and couldn&#039;t sleep. However, we can agree on one thing... Norfolk...

James,

It&#039;s all a bit of fun. Besides, a thought that you were a pluralist... :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>Had a headache and couldn&#8217;t sleep. However, we can agree on one thing&#8230; Norfolk&#8230;</p>
<p>James,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all a bit of fun. Besides, a thought that you were a pluralist&#8230; <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96247</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind you, if you wanted to throw a bucket of cold water on the whole thing, you could point out that if a blog has built up a good audience of regular readers, it&#039;s much less likely to pick up traffic via Lib Dem Blogs as more people will be reading it directly rather than via LDB. So not appearing in the Golden Ton is a sign of success. (Or so says Pink Dog, who isn&#039;t biting my ankle at the moment, oh no, and doesn&#039;t have a bitter bone in her body.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind you, if you wanted to throw a bucket of cold water on the whole thing, you could point out that if a blog has built up a good audience of regular readers, it&#8217;s much less likely to pick up traffic via Lib Dem Blogs as more people will be reading it directly rather than via LDB. So not appearing in the Golden Ton is a sign of success. (Or so says Pink Dog, who isn&#8217;t biting my ankle at the moment, oh no, and doesn&#8217;t have a bitter bone in her body.)</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96246</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, you make a good point in that first place probably shouldn&#039;t be counted as equal to 100th, but then that is precisely what the Golden Ton is listing.

Should a poll of polls weight posts according to ranking?  Ideally, yes but that weighting should depend on traffic, which we don&#039;t have here.  I sincerely doubt that the 100th placed post had less than a tenth of the traffic of the first placed post, let alone a 100th, which is what your system presumes.

Go away and recalculate it based on a log scale won&#039;t you? There&#039;s a good chap! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you make a good point in that first place probably shouldn&#8217;t be counted as equal to 100th, but then that is precisely what the Golden Ton is listing.</p>
<p>Should a poll of polls weight posts according to ranking?  Ideally, yes but that weighting should depend on traffic, which we don&#8217;t have here.  I sincerely doubt that the 100th placed post had less than a tenth of the traffic of the first placed post, let alone a 100th, which is what your system presumes.</p>
<p>Go away and recalculate it based on a log scale won&#8217;t you? There&#8217;s a good chap! <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Martin Land</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, please arrange the following into a well known phrase or sentence:

Life a get

It must be something in the water in Suffolk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, please arrange the following into a well known phrase or sentence:</p>
<p>Life a get</p>
<p>It must be something in the water in Suffolk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96239</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that we should have a variation, so I&#039;ve granted each entry points based on where it is on the list, i.e. 1 point for 100th, 2 points for 99th, etc. Interestingly, the top 10 reads:

399    Alex Wilcock
397    Peter Black
356    Lib Dem Voice
332    James Graham
300    Mark Valladares
197    Irfan Ahmed
193    Darrell Goodliffe
186    Anders Hansen
142    John Abrams
135    Sara Bedford

which leaves the same top 5 (what on earth am I doing there?) with the only difference being that James is fourth, not first...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that we should have a variation, so I&#8217;ve granted each entry points based on where it is on the list, i.e. 1 point for 100th, 2 points for 99th, etc. Interestingly, the top 10 reads:</p>
<p>399    Alex Wilcock<br />
397    Peter Black<br />
356    Lib Dem Voice<br />
332    James Graham<br />
300    Mark Valladares<br />
197    Irfan Ahmed<br />
193    Darrell Goodliffe<br />
186    Anders Hansen<br />
142    John Abrams<br />
135    Sara Bedford</p>
<p>which leaves the same top 5 (what on earth am I doing there?) with the only difference being that James is fourth, not first&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-1120-2-15835.html#comment-96230</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief. I didn&#039;t realise you were going to spread this out so much. Will it be a top 5 tomorrow? :P

Anyway, the scores on the doors stand at:

James Graham: 9
Alex Wilcock: 8
Lib Dem Voice: 7
Peter Black: 7
Mark Valladares: 5
John Abrams: 4
Costigan Quist: 4
Sara Bedford: 3
Helen Duffett: 3
Jonathan Calder: 3
Irfan Ahmed: 3
Darrell Goodliffe: 3
Anders Hanson: 3
Jonathan Fryer: 2
Alex Folkes: 2
Martin Land: 2
Duncan Borrowman: 2
Paul Walter: 2
Steve Cooke: 1
Andrew Porrer: 1
Barrie Wood: 1
Jock Coats: 1
Andy Strange: 1
Antony Hook: 1
Huw Dawson: 1
Liberal Vision: 1
Jennie Rigg: 1
Julian Harris: 1
Bernard Salmon: 1
Alasdair Wood: 1
Ruaraidh Dobson: 1
Linda Jack: 1
Nich Starling: 1
Charlotte Gore: 1
David Walker: 1
Jonathan Wallace: 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief. I didn&#8217;t realise you were going to spread this out so much. Will it be a top 5 tomorrow? <img src='http://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, the scores on the doors stand at:</p>
<p>James Graham: 9<br />
Alex Wilcock: 8<br />
Lib Dem Voice: 7<br />
Peter Black: 7<br />
Mark Valladares: 5<br />
John Abrams: 4<br />
Costigan Quist: 4<br />
Sara Bedford: 3<br />
Helen Duffett: 3<br />
Jonathan Calder: 3<br />
Irfan Ahmed: 3<br />
Darrell Goodliffe: 3<br />
Anders Hanson: 3<br />
Jonathan Fryer: 2<br />
Alex Folkes: 2<br />
Martin Land: 2<br />
Duncan Borrowman: 2<br />
Paul Walter: 2<br />
Steve Cooke: 1<br />
Andrew Porrer: 1<br />
Barrie Wood: 1<br />
Jock Coats: 1<br />
Andy Strange: 1<br />
Antony Hook: 1<br />
Huw Dawson: 1<br />
Liberal Vision: 1<br />
Jennie Rigg: 1<br />
Julian Harris: 1<br />
Bernard Salmon: 1<br />
Alasdair Wood: 1<br />
Ruaraidh Dobson: 1<br />
Linda Jack: 1<br />
Nich Starling: 1<br />
Charlotte Gore: 1<br />
David Walker: 1<br />
Jonathan Wallace: 1</p>
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