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	<title>Comments on: Top of the Blogs: The Golden Ton (Nos. 61-80)</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Cullen</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58300</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answering some of the points.

All the stats are collected via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mybloglog.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MyBlogLog&lt;/a&gt;.

Each week Stephen (or this week myself) will look at the top 50 clicks. We then take the top 7 blog posts, plus the other 5 and this creates the Golden Dozen.

On the 1st August I then logged into the MyBlogLog stat system and asked it for the top 500 clicks for the last 12 months. I then spent over an hour filtering out the clicks that didn&#039;t go to a blog post directly and provided Stephen with a list of the 100 most clicked on posts.

Stephen then wrote the articles for them last week and has them set up to appear throughout the week in stages.

As Mark Valladares pointed out, it could be possible that a post which was ranked 8th one week and never appeared in a Golden Dozen, could end up in the top 100 (or even top 10) if it was a busy blogging week, or if it was posted on a Saturday it will have been spread across two weeks of counting and might miss both dozens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answering some of the points.</p>
<p>All the stats are collected via <a href="http://www.mybloglog.com/" rel="nofollow">MyBlogLog</a>.</p>
<p>Each week Stephen (or this week myself) will look at the top 50 clicks. We then take the top 7 blog posts, plus the other 5 and this creates the Golden Dozen.</p>
<p>On the 1st August I then logged into the MyBlogLog stat system and asked it for the top 500 clicks for the last 12 months. I then spent over an hour filtering out the clicks that didn&#8217;t go to a blog post directly and provided Stephen with a list of the 100 most clicked on posts.</p>
<p>Stephen then wrote the articles for them last week and has them set up to appear throughout the week in stages.</p>
<p>As Mark Valladares pointed out, it could be possible that a post which was ranked 8th one week and never appeared in a Golden Dozen, could end up in the top 100 (or even top 10) if it was a busy blogging week, or if it was posted on a Saturday it will have been spread across two weeks of counting and might miss both dozens.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo,

I was, initially, simply trying to be helpful, as your question seemed not to have been answered. Your response seemed, to me at least, to be dripping with sarcasm. 

So, instead of attacking you, I decided upon humour, albeit slightly mocking. It did distract attention from the earlier part of the thread...

Your response? Further abuse. You really do go out of your way to make friends, don&#039;t you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo,</p>
<p>I was, initially, simply trying to be helpful, as your question seemed not to have been answered. Your response seemed, to me at least, to be dripping with sarcasm. </p>
<p>So, instead of attacking you, I decided upon humour, albeit slightly mocking. It did distract attention from the earlier part of the thread&#8230;</p>
<p>Your response? Further abuse. You really do go out of your way to make friends, don&#8217;t you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58279</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alix, there&#039;s nothing now to be confused about, I came to the wrong conclusion and I now stand corrected.

@ Mark, I&#039;ve admitted my error so you just sound like a sad middle-aged ****** who wants to hassle me a bit about questionning things too much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alix, there&#8217;s nothing now to be confused about, I came to the wrong conclusion and I now stand corrected.</p>
<p>@ Mark, I&#8217;ve admitted my error so you just sound like a sad middle-aged ****** who wants to hassle me a bit about questionning things too much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58276</link>
		<dc:creator>asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made your fatal mistake in listening to organ music rather than Elvis Costello. I, the kingmaker, will not be backing you for this reason, &amp; your schemes are thereby doomed to failure. I mock you.

I shall see myself out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made your fatal mistake in listening to organ music rather than Elvis Costello. I, the kingmaker, will not be backing you for this reason, &amp; your schemes are thereby doomed to failure. I mock you.</p>
<p>I shall see myself out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58254</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah no, my grass-loving friend, for I employ Herr Graham to progress my evil schemes through the medium of Unlock Democracy where I wield ultimate power as a substitute member of the Management Board.

Of course, I also own most of Oxfordshire, so Mr Tall is, in fact, my colonial administrator. On summer evenings, I like to sit in my favourite pub in Wantage with my cat, Cincinnati, plotting my inevitable seizure of ultimate global control over your sad, pathetic lives and listen to organ music.

Nya, ha, ha, ha, ha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah no, my grass-loving friend, for I employ Herr Graham to progress my evil schemes through the medium of Unlock Democracy where I wield ultimate power as a substitute member of the Management Board.</p>
<p>Of course, I also own most of Oxfordshire, so Mr Tall is, in fact, my colonial administrator. On summer evenings, I like to sit in my favourite pub in Wantage with my cat, Cincinnati, plotting my inevitable seizure of ultimate global control over your sad, pathetic lives and listen to organ music.</p>
<p>Nya, ha, ha, ha, ha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Man on the Grassy Knoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Man on the Grassy Knoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forget Mr Valladares that Mr Tall and Mr Graham are both winners of the so-called Liberal Democrat Blog of the Year. This award is just a cover for their international conspiracy. Mr Graham is not on your side. He is part of the conspiracy. Beware! 

And have you ever seen Mr Tall or Mr Graham in the same room as the Duke of Edinburgh? Suspicious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forget Mr Valladares that Mr Tall and Mr Graham are both winners of the so-called Liberal Democrat Blog of the Year. This award is just a cover for their international conspiracy. Mr Graham is not on your side. He is part of the conspiracy. Beware! </p>
<p>And have you ever seen Mr Tall or Mr Graham in the same room as the Duke of Edinburgh? Suspicious!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58249</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, you suggest that it isn&#039;t a conspiracy theory, and you get attacked for it...

Fair enough, it&#039;s a conspiracy, and Stephen Tall is the true LibDem Svengali. Alix and Ryan, you are faithful acolytes of the all powerful one and will doubtless be rewarded later for your wicked and licentious reasonableness.

I&#039;ve locked and bolted all of the doors of my house, stocked up with enough food to last me and the cats for a month or so and I&#039;m not coming out until I know that it&#039;s safe, that the powers of good have triumphed over the forces of Lib Dem Voice, and that James Graham has become President of the People&#039;s Democratic Republic of England...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, you suggest that it isn&#8217;t a conspiracy theory, and you get attacked for it&#8230;</p>
<p>Fair enough, it&#8217;s a conspiracy, and Stephen Tall is the true LibDem Svengali. Alix and Ryan, you are faithful acolytes of the all powerful one and will doubtless be rewarded later for your wicked and licentious reasonableness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve locked and bolted all of the doors of my house, stocked up with enough food to last me and the cats for a month or so and I&#8217;m not coming out until I know that it&#8217;s safe, that the powers of good have triumphed over the forces of Lib Dem Voice, and that James Graham has become President of the People&#8217;s Democratic Republic of England&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alix Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58244</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused now - I thought the original point was that Stephen removed the post from the GD artificially - i.e. on pure figures it *was* in there, but he agreed to take it out after your request? I may have misunderstood this. Therefore, when we pull out the stats for the whole year, it will still be floating around in there somewhere unless someone artificially takes it out again, for which see my post above.

Still, Mark&#039;s right in that the Golden Ton isn&#039;t necessarily a compilation of all the Golden Dozens, although the correlation will be high. There&#039;ll be slow-burners in the Ton which weren&#039;t the top posts in their week, but which did get a lot of clicks over time, and vice versa the Ton won&#039;t include some posts which got into the top seven in their week but weren&#039;t much clicked after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused now &#8211; I thought the original point was that Stephen removed the post from the GD artificially &#8211; i.e. on pure figures it *was* in there, but he agreed to take it out after your request? I may have misunderstood this. Therefore, when we pull out the stats for the whole year, it will still be floating around in there somewhere unless someone artificially takes it out again, for which see my post above.</p>
<p>Still, Mark&#8217;s right in that the Golden Ton isn&#8217;t necessarily a compilation of all the Golden Dozens, although the correlation will be high. There&#8217;ll be slow-burners in the Ton which weren&#8217;t the top posts in their week, but which did get a lot of clicks over time, and vice versa the Ton won&#8217;t include some posts which got into the top seven in their week but weren&#8217;t much clicked after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58237</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Mark, I bow to your superior intellect, that&#039;s what it was totally.

I stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Mark, I bow to your superior intellect, that&#8217;s what it was totally.</p>
<p>I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58235</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, too many actuallys... must concentrate...</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Valladares</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58234</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Valladares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very odd. However, to answer the question of &#039;why is it in the top 100 if it didn&#039;t make the Golden Dozen in the week it was published?&#039;, it is entirely possible that it appeared in a week when lots of people were reading, i.e. it is easier to get into the top seven (remember, the other five are nominated for interest rather than readership figures) in a week when not much is happening.

Indeed, if your entry straddled two weeks of the Golden Dozen, it might have been just short in consecutive weeks.

Of course, I don&#039;t know this for a fact, as I don&#039;t have access to all of the data (and don&#039;t want it either!).

Finally, I actually think that, in a contrary sort of way, this actually helps to promote more thought in terms of nominations for the awards to come. I have been reminded of some very good postings, and look forward to seeing what else appears in the coming days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very odd. However, to answer the question of &#8216;why is it in the top 100 if it didn&#8217;t make the Golden Dozen in the week it was published?&#8217;, it is entirely possible that it appeared in a week when lots of people were reading, i.e. it is easier to get into the top seven (remember, the other five are nominated for interest rather than readership figures) in a week when not much is happening.</p>
<p>Indeed, if your entry straddled two weeks of the Golden Dozen, it might have been just short in consecutive weeks.</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t know this for a fact, as I don&#8217;t have access to all of the data (and don&#8217;t want it either!).</p>
<p>Finally, I actually think that, in a contrary sort of way, this actually helps to promote more thought in terms of nominations for the awards to come. I have been reminded of some very good postings, and look forward to seeing what else appears in the coming days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58232</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alex - well I don&#039;t think you&#039;d exactly fit in at the UN either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex &#8211; well I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d exactly fit in at the UN either!</p>
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		<title>By: libdem troll</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58224</link>
		<dc:creator>libdem troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the important thing is not to draw attention to it and probably no-one will notice it (i think you&#039;ve got away with it so far...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the important thing is not to draw attention to it and probably no-one will notice it (i think you&#8217;ve got away with it so far&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilcock</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58223</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wilcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘I order you to falsify records on your site rather than me make a minor alteration to mine. And you smell, you horrid person!’

Ever considered a career at the UN, Jo?

Stephen, on the other hand, has never struck me as nasty in anything he’s ever written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘I order you to falsify records on your site rather than me make a minor alteration to mine. And you smell, you horrid person!’</p>
<p>Ever considered a career at the UN, Jo?</p>
<p>Stephen, on the other hand, has never struck me as nasty in anything he’s ever written.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Controversy is clearly the way to hits - one of my most &quot;successful&quot; days was when I was CRAZY enough to let some people from other parties say what they thought.

Scandal, Harris, find a scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Controversy is clearly the way to hits &#8211; one of my most &#8220;successful&#8221; days was when I was CRAZY enough to let some people from other parties say what they thought.</p>
<p>Scandal, Harris, find a scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28 readers to my blog from this site today! I think that&#039;s quite good going don&#039;t you James?

:@D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>28 readers to my blog from this site today! I think that&#8217;s quite good going don&#8217;t you James?</p>
<p>:@D</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58219</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d have never thought to click on it if it wasn’t for this thread.&quot;


Love your blog too James!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d have never thought to click on it if it wasn’t for this thread.&#8221;</p>
<p>Love your blog too James!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the click James - I have a sense of injustice and want to know why he didn&#039;t let it into the golden dozen yet it&#039;s in the golden ton...

I didn&#039;t delete it my end as it had thoroughly upset so many people and I didn&#039;t want to seem like a coward. However, I didn&#039;t want to feature in a list...quite reasonable I feel,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the click James &#8211; I have a sense of injustice and want to know why he didn&#8217;t let it into the golden dozen yet it&#8217;s in the golden ton&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t delete it my end as it had thoroughly upset so many people and I didn&#8217;t want to seem like a coward. However, I didn&#8217;t want to feature in a list&#8230;quite reasonable I feel,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/top-of-the-blogs-the-golden-ton-nos-6180-3111.html#comment-58216</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this states the blindingly obvious Jo but if publicising the post upsets you so much:

a) Why don&#039;t you delete it your end; and
b) Why are you spending so much time and energy promoting it?  I&#039;d have never thought to click on it if it wasn&#039;t for this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this states the blindingly obvious Jo but if publicising the post upsets you so much:</p>
<p>a) Why don&#8217;t you delete it your end; and<br />
b) Why are you spending so much time and energy promoting it?  I&#8217;d have never thought to click on it if it wasn&#8217;t for this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason &#039;LDV Towers&#039; don&#039;t want to take it down is because you&#039;d have to re-work the entire article. Utter laziness. At least everyone reading this will know how Stephen has double standards, one for both his different polls, depending on when they are published!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason &#8216;LDV Towers&#8217; don&#8217;t want to take it down is because you&#8217;d have to re-work the entire article. Utter laziness. At least everyone reading this will know how Stephen has double standards, one for both his different polls, depending on when they are published!</p>
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