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	<title>Comments on: Who was the person who faked the Norman Lamb Facebook profile? (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Lobster Blogster</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28301</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster Blogster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a muddly muddle you are in. You&#039;ve mixed up what the person is saying (which is clearly meant to deceive) with who the person is (which is just a question of tracking down where the IP address is).

Seperate one from t&#039;other and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get to the end of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a muddly muddle you are in. You&#8217;ve mixed up what the person is saying (which is clearly meant to deceive) with who the person is (which is just a question of tracking down where the IP address is).</p>
<p>Seperate one from t&#8217;other and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get to the end of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28150</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh darn my evil plans are scuppered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh darn my evil plans are scuppered.</p>
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		<title>By: welshproudliberal</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28149</link>
		<dc:creator>welshproudliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Ralph have the same IP address as well by any chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Ralph have the same IP address as well by any chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming the Tories (or anyone else) for this is as petty as the actions of the hoaxer.

It&#039;s just as likely that this is a Lib Dem trying to be &#039;clever&#039; as anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming the Tories (or anyone else) for this is as petty as the actions of the hoaxer.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just as likely that this is a Lib Dem trying to be &#8216;clever&#8217; as anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28138</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone account for the whereabouts of Grant 1234 Schweppes and his sock puppet person for the duration of this hilarious wheeze?

As if Cameron didn&#039;t have enough to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone account for the whereabouts of Grant 1234 Schweppes and his sock puppet person for the duration of this hilarious wheeze?</p>
<p>As if Cameron didn&#8217;t have enough to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More disinformation perhaps?

Search for this page on google:

http://community.channel4.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/503603557/m/5110021009/inc/1 
(the original has disappeared but a cache is still available)

This person is claiming the accountability society was set up by a labour party activist.  As there are 500+ labour groups on facebook I haven&#039;t been able to verify this but the name of the person that posted the original comment looked familiar: becksjim - Is &quot;James Beck/s&quot; around again?  The account was created on the 19th, the post made on the 20th, and it seems deleted on the 21st. First &quot;James Beck&quot; said it was definitely UKIP, now Labour, probably plaid cymru next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More disinformation perhaps?</p>
<p>Search for this page on google:</p>
<p><a href="http://community.channel4.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/503603557/m/5110021009/inc/1" rel="nofollow">http://community.channel4.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/503603557/m/5110021009/inc/1</a><br />
(the original has disappeared but a cache is still available)</p>
<p>This person is claiming the accountability society was set up by a labour party activist.  As there are 500+ labour groups on facebook I haven&#8217;t been able to verify this but the name of the person that posted the original comment looked familiar: becksjim &#8211; Is &#8220;James Beck/s&#8221; around again?  The account was created on the 19th, the post made on the 20th, and it seems deleted on the 21st. First &#8220;James Beck&#8221; said it was definitely UKIP, now Labour, probably plaid cymru next!</p>
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		<title>By: Norfolk Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28093</link>
		<dc:creator>Norfolk Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I don&#039;t know if this is of any help, but Harry left the following message on my blog about the faker looking at my blog last week, he obtaine dthis information from my Extreme Tracking information
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Harry_J has left a new comment on your post &quot;Flushing out the Fake Norman Lamb Facebook Scammer...&quot;: 

Interestingly, Google has cached a page of your extreme tracking software showing the same IP address (82-118-116-193.no-dns.keme.net) on your blog at 14.38 and 15.27 on the 15th. 

I don&#039;t know whether you might be able to find out more information from the software. All the public bit shows is that they are using firefox - so at least they got something right!

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Any use ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I don&#8217;t know if this is of any help, but Harry left the following message on my blog about the faker looking at my blog last week, he obtaine dthis information from my Extreme Tracking information<br />
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Harry_J has left a new comment on your post &#8220;Flushing out the Fake Norman Lamb Facebook Scammer&#8230;&#8221;: </p>
<p>Interestingly, Google has cached a page of your extreme tracking software showing the same IP address (82-118-116-193.no-dns.keme.net) on your blog at 14.38 and 15.27 on the 15th. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you might be able to find out more information from the software. All the public bit shows is that they are using firefox &#8211; so at least they got something right!</p>
<p>===================================</p>
<p>Any use ?</p>
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		<title>By: Norfolk Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28092</link>
		<dc:creator>Norfolk Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, what scope is there for the police to be invovled. Surely impersonating someone in the way this person has is a criminal offence ?

(I too have blogged about this)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, what scope is there for the police to be invovled. Surely impersonating someone in the way this person has is a criminal offence ?</p>
<p>(I too have blogged about this)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28086</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does Sarah Makepeace think about all this, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Sarah Makepeace think about all this, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Do</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point exactly.

I was going to say that their grammar reminded me of Paul Seery&#039;s but that just seemed immature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point exactly.</p>
<p>I was going to say that their grammar reminded me of Paul Seery&#8217;s but that just seemed immature.</p>
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		<title>By: wit and wisdom</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28082</link>
		<dc:creator>wit and wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant work.  Basic rule for Tories is surely to avoid saying &#039;We Liberals&#039;, since that always clearly identifies them.

The party of in-breeding continues to flourish it seems.  Young farmer, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant work.  Basic rule for Tories is surely to avoid saying &#8216;We Liberals&#8217;, since that always clearly identifies them.</p>
<p>The party of in-breeding continues to flourish it seems.  Young farmer, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: cbx</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28080</link>
		<dc:creator>cbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=82.118.116.193&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This change in Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; along with &lt;a&gt;the comment about Norman Lamb&#039;s Conservative rival&lt;/a&gt; would suggest that the author is at least a fan of Trevor Ivory.

Coincidentally the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Ivory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia entry on Trevor Ivory&lt;/a&gt; was considered to be deleted, but as so many Wikipedia articles about unknown Tory candidates it was decided to be kept. Instead many articles about better-known Lib Dem candidates like Ben Abbotts, who almost achieved a by-election win in a &quot;safe&quot; Tory seat has been decided to be deleted. Maybe the Lib Dems should watch for their own in Wikipedia, I can see that the Tories are already preparing themselves there for the next GE by creating articles about their candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=82.118.116.193&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" rel="nofollow">This change in Wikipedia</a> along with <a>the comment about Norman Lamb&#8217;s Conservative rival</a> would suggest that the author is at least a fan of Trevor Ivory.</p>
<p>Coincidentally the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Ivory" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia entry on Trevor Ivory</a> was considered to be deleted, but as so many Wikipedia articles about unknown Tory candidates it was decided to be kept. Instead many articles about better-known Lib Dem candidates like Ben Abbotts, who almost achieved a by-election win in a &#8220;safe&#8221; Tory seat has been decided to be deleted. Maybe the Lib Dems should watch for their own in Wikipedia, I can see that the Tories are already preparing themselves there for the next GE by creating articles about their candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28077</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogged:
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2007/08/more_tory_sockp.asp

I hear Trevor Ivory is denying involvement. Does anyone have a link to that denial?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogged:<br />
<a href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2007/08/more_tory_sockp.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2007/08/more_tory_sockp.asp</a></p>
<p>I hear Trevor Ivory is denying involvement. Does anyone have a link to that denial?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Mark. Some excellent investigative work here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Mark. Some excellent investigative work here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so a Tory, Just look back and see them trying to cover their tracks, blaming it on Labour, blaming it on UKIP, going on about the tories ignoring &quot;us liberals.&quot;

I think that the poor grammar suggests that they are a young tory. I really hope they slip up again and reveal their identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so a Tory, Just look back and see them trying to cover their tracks, blaming it on Labour, blaming it on UKIP, going on about the tories ignoring &#8220;us liberals.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that the poor grammar suggests that they are a young tory. I really hope they slip up again and reveal their identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry J</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28073</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, Thats great.  I&#039;ve been looking at those comments and thinking &quot;Why are they being so unreasonable?&quot;  and for a moment I did think this might be the same person and asking Mark Pack to investigate but put it down to being paranoid. I should trust nobody. The one from  &quot;Sarah Makepeace&quot; genuinely astounded me. Well, kudos to the person behind it as it takes some doing to be that committed! lol.  Perhaps I should have given your IP address to everyone.  If your career plan involves political deception I suggest you learn more about covering your electronic tracks.  I don&#039;t know whether UEA does a good computer security course.  Perhaps somewhere like Imperial does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, Thats great.  I&#8217;ve been looking at those comments and thinking &#8220;Why are they being so unreasonable?&#8221;  and for a moment I did think this might be the same person and asking Mark Pack to investigate but put it down to being paranoid. I should trust nobody. The one from  &#8220;Sarah Makepeace&#8221; genuinely astounded me. Well, kudos to the person behind it as it takes some doing to be that committed! lol.  Perhaps I should have given your IP address to everyone.  If your career plan involves political deception I suggest you learn more about covering your electronic tracks.  I don&#8217;t know whether UEA does a good computer security course.  Perhaps somewhere like Imperial does?</p>
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		<title>By: Grammar police</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/who-was-the-person-who-faked-the-norman-lamb-facebook-profile-1201.html#comment-28071</link>
		<dc:creator>Grammar police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. This is so inept it almost made me laugh out loud. &quot;Nasty party&quot; strikes again!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. This is so inept it almost made me laugh out loud. &#8220;Nasty party&#8221; strikes again!?</p>
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		<title>By: cbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has the case been reported to police?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the case been reported to police?</p>
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