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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nominate Sting.</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Anglin</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2007-1875.html#comment-38779</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Anglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel Brittan</description>
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		<title>By: David Collyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Collyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Good Morning from the Antipodes!

I am a member of the Australian Democrats - a lonely task, seeing we polled under 2% in November&#039;s federal election.

While distributing how-to-vote cards to HTV volunteers prior to the election, I was struck by a distinctive commonality among party supporters: all had wildly unkempt weedy gardens.  

The AD&#039;s are splendidly non-conformist folk, but I dont see that they all have to be non-conformist in the same way - that is a new conformity with its own rules, prohibitions and penalties.

My question is - Are the UK LibDems similarly united?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Good Morning from the Antipodes!</p>
<p>I am a member of the Australian Democrats &#8211; a lonely task, seeing we polled under 2% in November&#8217;s federal election.</p>
<p>While distributing how-to-vote cards to HTV volunteers prior to the election, I was struck by a distinctive commonality among party supporters: all had wildly unkempt weedy gardens.  </p>
<p>The AD&#8217;s are splendidly non-conformist folk, but I dont see that they all have to be non-conformist in the same way &#8211; that is a new conformity with its own rules, prohibitions and penalties.</p>
<p>My question is &#8211; Are the UK LibDems similarly united?</p>
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		<title>By: GaffaUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaffaUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why everyone seems to be nominating Shami Chakrabarti - because although she is head of Liberty and regular pops up on various programmes - I can&#039;t think of anything specific she has campaigned on where she has made a significant difference in awareness.

Whereas Al Gore jointly won the Nobel Peace Price in 2007 and has greatly put the issue of Climate Change as an issue throughout the globe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why everyone seems to be nominating Shami Chakrabarti &#8211; because although she is head of Liberty and regular pops up on various programmes &#8211; I can&#8217;t think of anything specific she has campaigned on where she has made a significant difference in awareness.</p>
<p>Whereas Al Gore jointly won the Nobel Peace Price in 2007 and has greatly put the issue of Climate Change as an issue throughout the globe.</p>
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		<title>By: Edis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nomination for J.K.Rowling.


For creating a new literary world upholding the importance of individual responsibility and initiative, and the importance of personal love and loyalty in the face sometimes of crass offical state meddling.


Check out the Tales of Beedle The Bard on amazon.com especially the tale of the enchanted fountain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nomination for J.K.Rowling.</p>
<p>For creating a new literary world upholding the importance of individual responsibility and initiative, and the importance of personal love and loyalty in the face sometimes of crass offical state meddling.</p>
<p>Check out the Tales of Beedle The Bard on amazon.com especially the tale of the enchanted fountain</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Whenman</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2007-1875.html#comment-37109</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Whenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry Pratchett - YES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Pratchett &#8211; YES!</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2007-1875.html#comment-37103</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of his best characters , Commander Vimes of the City Watch, is about as non-racist as you can get - he offers jobs to dwarves, werewolves , zombies and even golems.&quot;

He&#039;s quite anti-vampire though - I think characterising Vimes as non-racists is over simplistic - his liberal tendencies come because he thinks he ought to be - or because it would dishonour the Watch - not because he believes it to be intrinsically right

And I would hardly characterise the Guild based over regulation of the Vetinari regime as laissez faire or liberal.

Though Pratchett would be a good choice - and also someone who is criminally under-rated as a writer.  Probably I&#039;ve always thought because he writes far to many books to be a serious writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of his best characters , Commander Vimes of the City Watch, is about as non-racist as you can get &#8211; he offers jobs to dwarves, werewolves , zombies and even golems.&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s quite anti-vampire though &#8211; I think characterising Vimes as non-racists is over simplistic &#8211; his liberal tendencies come because he thinks he ought to be &#8211; or because it would dishonour the Watch &#8211; not because he believes it to be intrinsically right</p>
<p>And I would hardly characterise the Guild based over regulation of the Vetinari regime as laissez faire or liberal.</p>
<p>Though Pratchett would be a good choice &#8211; and also someone who is criminally under-rated as a writer.  Probably I&#8217;ve always thought because he writes far to many books to be a serious writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, not &lt;i&gt;specifically&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Julian H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does he point out that most dwarfs and trolls are young professionals who have less need for public services such as healthcare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does he point out that most dwarfs and trolls are young professionals who have less need for public services such as healthcare?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Black</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2007-1875.html#comment-37047</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, Vetenari&#039;s policies on immigration (p224, &quot;Feet of Clay&quot;):

 &lt;i&gt;&quot;Ankh-Morpork, alone of all the cities of the plains, had opened its gates to dwarfs and trolls (alloys are stronger, Vetenari had said). It had worked. They made things. Often they made trouble, but mostly they made wealth&quot; &quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Vetenari&#8217;s policies on immigration (p224, &#8220;Feet of Clay&#8221;):</p>
<p> <i>&#8220;Ankh-Morpork, alone of all the cities of the plains, had opened its gates to dwarfs and trolls (alloys are stronger, Vetenari had said). It had worked. They made things. Often they made trouble, but mostly they made wealth&#8221; &#8220;</i></p>
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		<title>By: N.O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>N.O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Vetinari believes in Laissez-faire. Sort of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Vetinari believes in Laissez-faire. Sort of.</p>
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		<title>By: Alun Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alun Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Terry Pratchett is a great suggestion.  My only problem would be with the dangerously seductive Liberal Dictator Vetinari.  But I would be surprised if anyone else has had good liberal ideas read by as many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Terry Pratchett is a great suggestion.  My only problem would be with the dangerously seductive Liberal Dictator Vetinari.  But I would be surprised if anyone else has had good liberal ideas read by as many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian H</title>
		<link>http://www.libdemvoice.org/whos-your-liberal-voice-of-2007-1875.html#comment-37026</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They campaign against third world poverty, excessive materialism and protecting the environment, all good liberal themes.&quot;

Since when was &quot;campaigning against excessive materialism&quot; a &quot;good liberal theme&quot;? Where are these campaigns? How do they define &quot;excessive materialism&quot;? How do they want to stop it?

I&#039;d have thought the liberal position would be that each individual is free to be as materialistic or unmaterialistic as they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They campaign against third world poverty, excessive materialism and protecting the environment, all good liberal themes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since when was &#8220;campaigning against excessive materialism&#8221; a &#8220;good liberal theme&#8221;? Where are these campaigns? How do they define &#8220;excessive materialism&#8221;? How do they want to stop it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have thought the liberal position would be that each individual is free to be as materialistic or unmaterialistic as they like.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have another, very serious suggestion - Terry Pratchett.

His readership in the UK is huge. Those who have read his books will know that underneath all the humour and fantasy is a very liberal philosophy. 
There&#039;s too much to mention but, for example, books such as &quot;Equal Rites&quot; and &quot;Monstrous Regiment&quot; have a theme of , well, equal rights for women. The hero of &quot;Small Gods&quot; is an honest priest trying to stay one step ahead of a corrupted fundamentalist religion. One of his best characters , Commander Vimes of the City Watch, is about as non-racist as you can get - he offers jobs to dwarves, werewolves , zombies and even golems. (this may strike non-readers of Pratchett as pretty flippant, but in it&#039;s own  context it&#039;s very serious stuff.)

The most famous fantasy books in the last 50 years have been the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I like those books, but Tolkein has a &lt;i&gt;huge amounts &lt;/i&gt; of killing, has races such as orcs with no good qualities whatsoever, and a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; of monarchs. Pratchett is on the side of the people. 

To quote from Pratchett&#039;s novel &quot;Feet of Clay&quot;:
&lt;i&gt;
&quot;You are in favour of the common people?&quot;  said Dragon mildly.
&quot;The common people?&quot; said Vimes. &quot;They&#039;re nothing special. They&#039;re no different from the rich and powerful except they&#039;ve  got no money or power. But the law should be there to balance things up a bit . So I suppose I&#039;ve got to be on their side&quot;.
&lt;/i&gt;

Later on in the same book he&#039;s ordered  to destroy a golem:
&lt;i&gt;
&quot;In order to keep the peace, the golem will have to be destroyed&quot;
&quot;No, sir&quot;
&quot;Allow me to repeat my instruction&quot;
&quot;No, sir&quot;
&quot;I&#039;m sure I just gave you an order Commander. I distinctly felt my lips move.&quot;
&quot;No, sir. He&#039;s alive, sir&quot;
&quot;He&#039;s just made of clay, Vimes&quot;
&quot;Aren&#039;t we all, sir? According to the pamphlets Constable Visit keeps handing out. Anyway &lt;i&gt; he &lt;/i&gt; thinks he&#039;s alive, and that&#039;s good enough for me.&quot;
&lt;/i&gt;

I can think of no individual who has spread a liberal , tolerant philosophy more in the last 20 years than Terry Pratchett. And now would be a very good time to give him some credit for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another, very serious suggestion &#8211; Terry Pratchett.</p>
<p>His readership in the UK is huge. Those who have read his books will know that underneath all the humour and fantasy is a very liberal philosophy.<br />
There&#8217;s too much to mention but, for example, books such as &#8220;Equal Rites&#8221; and &#8220;Monstrous Regiment&#8221; have a theme of , well, equal rights for women. The hero of &#8220;Small Gods&#8221; is an honest priest trying to stay one step ahead of a corrupted fundamentalist religion. One of his best characters , Commander Vimes of the City Watch, is about as non-racist as you can get &#8211; he offers jobs to dwarves, werewolves , zombies and even golems. (this may strike non-readers of Pratchett as pretty flippant, but in it&#8217;s own  context it&#8217;s very serious stuff.)</p>
<p>The most famous fantasy books in the last 50 years have been the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I like those books, but Tolkein has a <i>huge amounts </i> of killing, has races such as orcs with no good qualities whatsoever, and a <i>lot</i> of monarchs. Pratchett is on the side of the people. </p>
<p>To quote from Pratchett&#8217;s novel &#8220;Feet of Clay&#8221;:<br />
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&#8220;You are in favour of the common people?&#8221;  said Dragon mildly.<br />
&#8220;The common people?&#8221; said Vimes. &#8220;They&#8217;re nothing special. They&#8217;re no different from the rich and powerful except they&#8217;ve  got no money or power. But the law should be there to balance things up a bit . So I suppose I&#8217;ve got to be on their side&#8221;.<br />
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<p>Later on in the same book he&#8217;s ordered  to destroy a golem:<br />
<i><br />
&#8220;In order to keep the peace, the golem will have to be destroyed&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No, sir&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Allow me to repeat my instruction&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No, sir&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m sure I just gave you an order Commander. I distinctly felt my lips move.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No, sir. He&#8217;s alive, sir&#8221;<br />
&#8220;He&#8217;s just made of clay, Vimes&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Aren&#8217;t we all, sir? According to the pamphlets Constable Visit keeps handing out. Anyway </i><i> he </i> thinks he&#8217;s alive, and that&#8217;s good enough for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can think of no individual who has spread a liberal , tolerant philosophy more in the last 20 years than Terry Pratchett. And now would be a very good time to give him some credit for it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally admire JS Mill, but I see nothing wrong in criticising his opinions even from a liberal perspective. As I mentioned before, Gray is an admirer of Isiah Berlin and JM Keynes who were both good liberals.
I do not intend to write much about Krugman&#039;s opinions which I had a look at, except to say I strongly disagree with them. The Economist gave a good review of Gray&#039;s book at the time, and for Krugman to compare Gray with Buchannan is utterly absurd - and says more about him than it does about Gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally admire JS Mill, but I see nothing wrong in criticising his opinions even from a liberal perspective. As I mentioned before, Gray is an admirer of Isiah Berlin and JM Keynes who were both good liberals.<br />
I do not intend to write much about Krugman&#8217;s opinions which I had a look at, except to say I strongly disagree with them. The Economist gave a good review of Gray&#8217;s book at the time, and for Krugman to compare Gray with Buchannan is utterly absurd &#8211; and says more about him than it does about Gray.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read some of his work. Admitedly not much but enough to confirm that he is not a liberal. The edition of On Liberty I own has an introduction by Gray. In it he argues basically that Mill doesn&#039;t add up and that liberalism does not work as a doctrine.

I got the quote from Krugman from a review he wrote of False Dawn, which can be found at http://www.pkarchive.org/cranks/gray.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read some of his work. Admitedly not much but enough to confirm that he is not a liberal. The edition of On Liberty I own has an introduction by Gray. In it he argues basically that Mill doesn&#8217;t add up and that liberalism does not work as a doctrine.</p>
<p>I got the quote from Krugman from a review he wrote of False Dawn, which can be found at <a href="http://www.pkarchive.org/cranks/gray.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pkarchive.org/cranks/gray.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you read his work - otherwise how do you know what he is talking about?
None of his work refers to Klein or Chomsky, the usual anti-Globalisation heros. That said, I believe that a large section of the anti-Globalisation movement is a liberal movement. They campaign against third world poverty, excessive materialism and protecting the environment, all good liberal themes.
As far as Gray is concerned, he actually voted Lib Dem at the last general election. You could describe him as an old fashioned conservative given his level of scepticism, but on the other hand he is nothing like an old fasioned conservative in his view of modern Britain. He is very much in favour of multiculturalism and he rejects the old fashioned &quot;bourgeois values&quot; of Thatcher.
His seering critiques of the failed Utopian ideologies of Naziism, Marxism, Neo-Liberalism and Neo-Conservatism are thoroughly liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you read his work &#8211; otherwise how do you know what he is talking about?<br />
None of his work refers to Klein or Chomsky, the usual anti-Globalisation heros. That said, I believe that a large section of the anti-Globalisation movement is a liberal movement. They campaign against third world poverty, excessive materialism and protecting the environment, all good liberal themes.<br />
As far as Gray is concerned, he actually voted Lib Dem at the last general election. You could describe him as an old fashioned conservative given his level of scepticism, but on the other hand he is nothing like an old fasioned conservative in his view of modern Britain. He is very much in favour of multiculturalism and he rejects the old fashioned &#8220;bourgeois values&#8221; of Thatcher.<br />
His seering critiques of the failed Utopian ideologies of Naziism, Marxism, Neo-Liberalism and Neo-Conservatism are thoroughly liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52-I am not really sure John Gray can be described as a liberal.

To quote Paul Krugman (who would be a contender for this award if we lived in the states): &quot;He is certainly not a liberal, in either its 19th-century or modern American senses. Instead, he is an old-fashioned conservative - paleoconservative? - in the tradition of Burke, or of modern representatives like James Goldsmith, Edward Luttwak, and once and future U.S. presidential aspirant Pat Buchanan (whose new book The Great Betrayal sounds many of the same themes as False Dawn). What he really wants is a society in which people stay in the neighborhoods in which they were born, stay with their spouses, and stay with their traditional cultures.&quot;

I haven&#039;t read much of his writing but I was under the impression that he has not been a liberal since the eighties (even then he was a classical liberal) and that he has now thrown his lot in with the anti-globalisation left rather than pro-globalisation liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52-I am not really sure John Gray can be described as a liberal.</p>
<p>To quote Paul Krugman (who would be a contender for this award if we lived in the states): &#8220;He is certainly not a liberal, in either its 19th-century or modern American senses. Instead, he is an old-fashioned conservative &#8211; paleoconservative? &#8211; in the tradition of Burke, or of modern representatives like James Goldsmith, Edward Luttwak, and once and future U.S. presidential aspirant Pat Buchanan (whose new book The Great Betrayal sounds many of the same themes as False Dawn). What he really wants is a society in which people stay in the neighborhoods in which they were born, stay with their spouses, and stay with their traditional cultures.&#8221;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read much of his writing but I was under the impression that he has not been a liberal since the eighties (even then he was a classical liberal) and that he has now thrown his lot in with the anti-globalisation left rather than pro-globalisation liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to nominate John Gray. He is too independently minded to join the Lib Dems, or any other party, but he puts his case so well, and I decided he is a Liberal as he is a great admirer of Isiah Berlin and JM Keynes.
I also admire Shami, and I have long admired Jonathan Porrit. If I am allowed to propose an American, than Joseph Stiglitz gets my support. Kate Allen, director of Amnesty International I would also like to nominate. I will probably think of more when I wake up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to nominate John Gray. He is too independently minded to join the Lib Dems, or any other party, but he puts his case so well, and I decided he is a Liberal as he is a great admirer of Isiah Berlin and JM Keynes.<br />
I also admire Shami, and I have long admired Jonathan Porrit. If I am allowed to propose an American, than Joseph Stiglitz gets my support. Kate Allen, director of Amnesty International I would also like to nominate. I will probably think of more when I wake up!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I&#039;m aware somewhat more important things (/disasters / tragedies) are occuring right now, someone, somewhere, might want to read my write-up of the above nominations - they can now do so by clicking on my name. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I&#8217;m aware somewhat more important things (/disasters / tragedies) are occuring right now, someone, somewhere, might want to read my write-up of the above nominations &#8211; they can now do so by clicking on my name. Thanks.</p>
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