Clegg: Brown’s “staggering chaos and confusion” on Trident

The BBC has the story:

Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg has attacked government “chaos and confusion” over renewing the Trident missile system. No 10 has insisted the timetable for renewing Trident is unchanged. But earlier, officials implied that key decisions would be put off until May 2010 ahead of a conference on the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Mr Clegg said the prime minister should make a “climbdown” and admit the missile system was not justified given equipment shortages in Afghanistan. In a statement, Downing Street said there had been “no change” in the government position that Trident would be renewed.

Here’s Nick’s full statement:

The chaos and confusion surrounding Gordon Brown’s machinations on Trident is staggering. Ministers had always insisted the first contracts for replacing the submarines had to be signed this autumn. That’s why Brown and Blair rammed the decision to renew Trident through Parliament without a proper debate in the first place.

“Gordon Brown should now complete his climbdown and admit that a like-for-like Trident replacement is unnecessary and unjustifiable when our troops in Afghanistan are still short of kit.”

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7 Comments

  • Herbert Brown 17th Jul '09 - 7:31pm

    “… a like-for-like Trident replacement is unnecessary and unjustifiable when our troops in Afghanistan are still short of kit.”

    Much as I agree with the new policy of not replacing Trident, I really don’t think statements like that are going to convince anyone that the policy is based on a serious assessment of the long-term strategic situation!

  • Somewhere in Between 17th Jul '09 - 9:03pm

    Andy/Herbert:

    It is only justifyable to use that comparison if you then go on to say, all the money that is budgeted to be spent on Trident should be spent on urgent operational requirements for Afghanistan.

    Unfortuately, Nick Clegg hasn’t ruled out nuclear weapons – only Trident.

    He has not made any attempt to say how much another system would cost and therefore how much he could save.

    Nor has ne made a committment to save any saved money on defence.

    So ultimately – I agree with Herbert.

    Nick’s statement, while politically attractive in the current climate – is basically just base politiking.

  • Somewhere in Between 17th Jul '09 - 9:05pm

    spend – not save – sorry

  • Andy,

    We have no idea what our strategic interests in the future will be. There are plenty of respected analysts right across the spectrum who think the nineties and noughties obsession with Islamism and associated expeditionary warfare will, in the future, be seen as the ‘red herring’ of foreign policy in an era of climate change and declining energy security.

    In that sort of world of uncertainty it might be wise to retain nuclear weapons. And on the political level, it just looks like crass populism; more gear for the guys at the cost of the deterrent. The truth is far more complex (as ever), to do with MoD equipment failures in procurement and the general strategy in Afghanistan (which Nick himself has rightly critiqued).

    In short it looks like a political cheap shot.

    The Trident non-policy is one of the worst things Nick has done since he became leader. Purely aside from its status as a u-turn (not necessarily a bad thing), it’s based on the idea that we retain a deterrent but one which is more cost-effective. So one week he’s slamming Trident for being too costly in a recession, the next week he’s slamming it because it’s supposedly diverting resources from the front line. Trident’s turning into Nick’s equivalent of ‘government waste’ or ‘overseas aid’, a useful target for all seasons.

    And in all that he’s stated he wants to retain a deterrent but apart from vague comments about nuclear tipped cruise missiles, we have no idea what he actually means.

  • Herbert Brown 17th Jul '09 - 10:48pm

    My point is that whether we need a strategic nuclear deterrent is an important question which needs to be thought out properly and argued on its own merits.

    This kind of nonsensical soundbite is no substitute for that process. And of course if Clegg is going to accuse others of “chaos and confusion” he would be wise to work out exactly what he proposes to replace Trident with.

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