Basically it is being sold to the ERG as staking the ground for no deal in a year’s time.
https://twitter.com/peoplesvote_uk/status/1185160014421299200?s=20
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1185166530490916872?s=20
How any MP who claims to be progressive can vote for this deal is beyond me.
See you on the march.
* Caron Lindsay is Editor of Liberal Democrat Voice and blogs at Caron's Musings. You can find her on Bluesky at caronmlindsay.bsky.social



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And yet Caron enough scared Labour MP’s will vote for it coupled with a couple of mad and bad Labour MP’s it will probably get through. Labour under Corbyn truely are the handmaidens of Brexit; with a few honourable exceptions the rest failed to oppose or actually wanted Brexit. Some Oppersition they are, the handwringers of the coming Austrity. O well I suppose I can console myself with calling them ” Red Tories”; boot on the other foot next time one of the whimpers ” Yellow Tory, coalition”, I’m so going to enjoy replying ” Handmaiden”.
The Letwin amendment (there always seems to be a “Letwin amendment”) looks as though it will pass and allow the bill to be properly scrutinise before the House gives final approval, avoiding the possibility of a “no deal” (if there was a vote today but then the bill failed at some stage causing a no deal EU departure).
The vote is likely to be very tight. Political analysts are suggesting that Johnson could win by one or two votes. Unfortunately it could be Stephen Lloyd’s vote that makes the difference.
A popular claim amongst political pundits is that all parties are split on Brexit. I would like to refute this. The question for Stphen Lloyd and for Labour Brexiters is just how bad would a Brexit agreement have to be before they would vote against it? Brexit will be generally impoverishing, making the poorest poorer will hurt them the most, jobs will be lost as manufacturers leave. All of this is known to be some of the most likely consequences of Brexit.
“It’s not over until the ____lady sings” – in this case possibly some time next year. In the meantime we could have had a General Election. And even then we still have years of negotiation ahead. Who knows? We could have a Border Poll in Ireland sooner rather than later; but only if they can get Stormont functioning again. And then there’s the possibility of another Scottish Independence Referendum…..
I gather that the sales of ‘For the Record’ are going well. Well done, Dave. What I way to get a best seller! You posh boys always seem to emerge smelling of roses. But, Cameron, what HAVE you done?!
I hope it is made clear to Stephen Lloyld if he votes for the Brexit enabling deep Austerity Bill there is no way back. I’d hate to think that in a couple of weeks we have a Libdemvoice article hailing his return with the headline “It’s your old friend Stephen back in the party and ready to fight Austerity”. Somethings are forgivable, voting for the Depeffle “Pig in a Poke” and hope Bill is not one of them.
For the record, Stephen Lloyd voted for the Letwin amendment today.
Why don’t TV interviewers ask Caroline Flint, Neil Kinnock etc, “We know you are representing the views of your constituents but do you believe that Brexit is in their best interests or are you voting to preserve your own job?!!
frankie 19th Oct ’19 – 11:11am It pains me to say that Stephen Lloyd has said he will vote for the Boris bill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Lloyd
BrianD 20th Oct ’19 – 9:00am Neil Kinnock is a peer. His son is an MP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Kinnock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Kinnock