6.00 am
Here’s where we’re at (and it’s not pretty):
The Lib Dems have made FOUR GAINS: Burnley, Norwich South, Eastbourne and Redcar.
And ELEVEN LOSSES: Chesterfield, Cornwall South East, Harrogate & Knaresborough, Hereford & Herefordshire South, Montgomeryshire, Newton Abbot, Oxford West & Abingdon, Richmond Park, Romsey & Southampton North, Winchester and York Outer.
The Tories are projected to score 37% (+4%) of the vote and win 308 (+98) MPs; Labour to score 30% (-6%) of the vote and win 260 (-89) seats; and the Lib Dems to score 23% (n/c) and win 53 (-9) MPs.
6.09 am
Lib Dems’ Mike Hancock has HELD Portsmouth South.
6.15 am
So what went wrong?
All the nine final polls had the Lib Dems in the range 26-29% – but the reality is that the party got nowhere near that, finishing only marginally up on 2005. Now it’s true that a month ago the party would have settled for holding steady. But not after ‘Cleggmania’.
The fact is that expectations were raised and now they have been dashed in the most cruel fashion. Worse than that, though, we at least expected our targeting strategy to pull us through. Instead we have lost 11 great MPs. Yes, there have been some high spots – the four gains and a clutch of terrific second place performances – but overall this is a deeply depressing result for the Lib Dems.
Perhaps the most arresting thought is this: how much worse might it have been but for the Clegg-effect? Though people might now write it off, there’s no doubting the inspiration his leadership has provided in the past four weeks, with new members, new volunteers, new money, and new impetus.
Is it simply the case that the Lib Dems have falen victim to a classic third party squeeze in a close election? And if that is what’s happened is there anything we could have done that would have made a difference?
6.20 am
More bad news likely … seems Labour will hold Hampstead & Kilburn, Brent Central and Holborn & St Pancras. So no Ed Fordham, no Sarah Teather and no Jo Shaw.
6.22 am
Here’s something to cheer us up – Stephen Gilbert’s result in St Austell & Newquay:
Stephen Gilbert Liberal Democrat 20,189 42.7% (-4.5)
Conservative 18,877 40.0% (+5.1)
Labour 3,386 7.2% (-6.6)
6.28 am
Alistair Carmichael HOLDS Orkney and Shetland.
And we’re hearing good things from Solihull (Lorely Burt).
6.34 am
Nick Clegg’s declaration in Sheffield Hallam – you’ll all be relieved to hear its a Lib Dem HOLD. A 7% swing from Tory to Lib Dem – bigger than Vince ;). Now let’s hear what he has to say …
Nick denounces the electoral chaos that prevented hundreds and thousands of voters from being able to vote. Thanks his team and his agent, and the voters of Sheffield Hallam. Argues Lib Dems conducted positive campaign that engaged many. But recognises it has been a disappointing night for the party. Says no-one should rush into making claims, should take a little time to make sure people get the good government the country deserves. Spells out Lib Dems’ commitments to fairness.
6.45 am
Dan Rogerson HOLDS Cornwall North:
Dan Rogerson Liberal Democrat 22,512 48.1% (+5.7)
Conservative 19,531 41.7% (+6.3)
UK Independence Party 2,300 4.9% (-0.8)
6.46 am
Lib Dem GAIN from the Tories!! Well done to Tessa Munt in Wells on a swing of 3.6%:
Tessa Munt Liberal Democrat 24,560 44.0% (+6.1)
Conservative 23,760 42.5% (-1.0)
Labour 4,198 7.5% (-8.1)
Ed Fordham tweets: “Something near a full recount in #handk Hampstead and Kilburn”
6.50 am
And crashing back down to earth … Julia Goldsworthy LOSES Camborne and Redruth to the Tories by just 66 votes:
Conservative 15,969 37.6% (+12.0)
Julia Goldsworthy Liberal Democrat 15,903 37.4% (+1.6)
Labour 6,945 16.3% (-12.4)
And Terrye Teverson LOSES Truro and Falmouth, also to the Tories:
Conservative 20,349 41.7% (+10.0)
Terrye Teverson Liberal Democrat 19,914 40.8% (-0.1)
Labour 4,697 9.6% (-9.4)
7.00 am
Labour has held on, by just 165 votes, against a very strong Lib Dem challenge from Paul Scriven in Sheffield Central:
Labour 17,138 41.3% (-5.2)
Paul Scriven Liberal Democrat 16,973 40.9% (+9.5)
Conservative 4,206 10.1% (+1.0)
7.07 am
Great result for Lynne Featherstone who HOLDS Hornsey and Wood Green:
Lynne Featherstone Liberal Democrat 25,595% 46.5 (+3.2)
Labour 18,720 34.0% (-4.3)
Conservative 9,174 16.7% (+4.0)
7.16 am
Heres the results for Wales as a whole, tweeted by Steph Ashley:
All Wales: Lab 36% of vote, 65% of MPs; Con 26% of vote, 20% of MPs; LD 20% of vote, 7.5% of MPs; Plaid 11% of vote, 7.5% of MPs
7.17 am
Lib Dem GAIN from Labour in Bradford East on a 7.6% swing:
David Ward Liberal Democrat 13,637 33.7% (+3.9)
Labour 13,272 32.8% (-11.3)
Conservative 10,860 26.8% (+9.4)
And Lib Dem notional GAIN in Solihull for Lorely Burt:
Lorely Burt Liberal Democrat 23,635 42.9% (+3.5)
Conservative 23,460 42.6% (+2.9)
Labour 4,891 8.9% (-6.7)
7.24 am
The Guardian has Nick Clegg’s comments from his victory declaration earlier:
I do not think anyone should rush into making claims or taking decisions which don’t stand the test of time. I think it would be best if everybody were to take a little time so that people get the good government that they deserve in these uncertain times. Whatever happens in the next few days, weeks or months, the Liberal Democrats will be guided by the values and the principles on which we fought this election: a fairness in our society, responsbility in providing stability and growth to an economy at a time particularly of growing uncertainty as we have seen in recent hours and days in the economy we have seen around us in the world us and real change to the way we do politics.
7.41 am
Sounds like John Leech has held on in Manchester Withington.
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Well, as far as I am concerned, Nick can shelve every other bloody policy in the entire manifesto if it gets the Labour party to give us a referendum on PR.
The BBC is, at time of writing, showing an increase of 1% in the Lib Dem national vote share which has, apparently, translated into a net LOSS of 7 seats.
51% of the population voted “no” to David Cameron. He may have gained by far the most seats, he may even have a slightly larger share of the popular vote than either of his two rivals but hes has not “won” this election, he does not have the moral victory and he most certainly DOES NOT have a mandate to govern unopposed.
To quote another commenter on a thread at the Independant “if Nick Clegg doesn’t do a deal with Gordon to secure at least AV, for their own protection, his party should defenestrate him”.
Respect to you Stephen for still being with us!
Good defence in Portsmouth South. That’s the way to do it.
But now is the time to start the clamour for electoral reform. This is so unbelievably unfair. I’m calling the campaign “Fuck First Past The Post”.
But Ellie, LD+Lab is going to be nowhere near a majority!!
we have to bide our time in opposition until we can force a popular election with a PR deal.
I think it’s something more than third party squeeze.
On one level, I think the debates energised people to turnout and then right at the death Labour terrified their waverers enough of a Tory government that they reverted to type except, ironically, it worked better in Lab-Lib marginals where the Tories were shady background figures and less well in Lab-Con seats where they knew who the Tory was.
On the other hand, is it possible that the debate effect actually hurt us because we went from having no air war to too much? So that our normal ground efforts didn’t quite establish the idea that we could win as they normally would, leaving people able to believe the vote Clegg, get Cameron message?
Thanks to Stephen for the night long coverage. I think Liberals have to come out strong, not just to parliament but to their own members, on its case for the need for electoral reform. This should be its main priority to ensure at least one of their campaign promises can be met, while allowing the party to maintain its third party opposition status, a position that seems less dangerous just now.
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By those numbers Lib/Lab would have 313, plus one for Caroline Lucas who would, I think, support PR vs 308 for the Tories. You’re right, it’s not a majority, but the other “others” could go either way. I think most of their hearts are more closely aligned with the Conservatives, but not all, and all of them ought to favour PR with their heads.
It might be enough. It has to be worth a try, surely. I’d far sooner see that than an attempt to prop up David Cameron; he isn’t really far enough from his majority so offer any sort of significant reform in return for support.
Word is that JG has lost Camborne./ Redruth…
Eve of election polls had us on 27%. It’ll be interesting what the academics make of why the polls were so wrong.
It can’t have helped that Greece was in severe crisis while Nick was questioned about our suppport of the Euro.
Immigration is the number two issue for the electorate, and it may have been impossible for Nick to convince the electorate.
Did the party make mistakes? Of course, particularly too much talking about hung parliaments. But I think that only made a marginal difference.
The country likes Nick, he communicates well, but after three weeks of prolonged exposure of our policies, he couldn’t persuade the electorate. I think it’d be grossly unfair to blame him. We’re a democratic party. Those aren’t just his policies, they’re ours.
It would look bad to form a coalition with Labour, it will likely only do us more harm. There is not a lot of options for us. The Tories would rather form a government with the nationalists so they won’t offer much for us in a coalition.
agreed – categorically not nick’s fault…
But, need to learn some lessons – noticeable that some of the new PPCs and boundary changes have been hit hard… We need to come up with something very different next time, it’s clear that the public are very tied to the two-party system, particularly as underpinned by an ingrained bias in the media. We also need to recognise that we don’t have an inalienable call on the ‘youth vote’… getting that vote is tremendously important, but we can’t rely on assumptions, or an ‘anti-tory feeling’ for this, given that most of them don’t remember the bad old days…
Finally, we need to stick with our principles but explain them better – and bottom line is that unfortunately a proportion of the country will never, ever agree with us because, as tonight proves…. they aren’t liberal
It was a mostly lacklustre national campaign lead by a mostly lacklustre leader. The only temporary blip in the otherwise predictable script was Clegg’s extreme good fortune at being invited to take part in the leaders’ debates, but he wasn’t able to make it count.
Wow depressed right now congrats to the Lib Dems who have hold on.
Well done to Stephen and Mark for making the Voice here so lively with regular updates for the past four weeks – it can not have been easy to sustain it like this.
We need to take a breather before making any useful comments for a debrief. But, if millions arrived out of the blue, it is rather odd that there was no attempt ad “advertorial” advertising in the national newspapers to try to rebut things like “Lib Dems want to join the Euro, and look at Greece” which even now Michael Gove is peddling on TV, and “an amnesty for illegal immigrants will attract a million more” and other stuff which had front page billing in the Mail, Express, Telegraph and the like, apart from the Sun and others going on about a hung parliament and instability, not to mention other things like putting up house prices with VAT on new homes and “leaving the country defenceless” and more.
Right now, the public and press will go beserk if we are seen to be putting “self interest” first to fret about systems that “give us what we deserve cos we have been robbed” when the country faces grave financial problems.
do we know if any of the problems with polling stations have had any impact yet?
In my experience electoral reform is the one and only Lib Dem policy that most your voters (note: voters, not members) really give a shit about. Angry press or no angry press, if an opportunity is there to deliver reform and you duck it you will be completely finished as a party.
Labour gain Manchester Withington
The BBC correct we hold in Manchester well done john Leech.
AV isn’t reform. It would make it worse.
Don’t forget that at least 51% of the population (the number who voted against the Tories) will have woken up this morning to bad news. 5.5 million Lib Dem voters are feeling ignored and disenfranchised.
Now is not the time to worry about how it would look to the 37% who voted Tory, now is the time to say we have nothing to loose and push for PR with everything we have.
Last night could not possibly have gone worse and a large number of voters will feel that too. We’ve tried the accomodationist route and it failed. Now it’s time to start getting active. We should all join http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk and we should, if at all possible, be attending any demonstrations that happen.
Gordon is offering AV as his opener, and he’s desperate, it’s possible he will shift towards STV with pressure. But Nick can’t argue that if the population aren’t making it clear they feel this vote is unjust and the system is broken.
New live-blog thread started:
https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-ldv-election-morning-liveblog-open-thread-8am-edition-19366.html
When will Westmorland and Lonsdale going to be called
51% of the population voted “no” to David Cameron.
No, a large proportion of the population voted for the two-party system. Our appeal for them to vote for us to change it did not do well. Therefore the population should now be given what they, by and large voted for, what they would have got without dispute had we not bothered. I.e. government by whichever of the two parties in that system came on top. Anyone who voted Labour and not us in effect voted for Tory as second choice, because that’s what the two-party system means.
The Labservatives won. We lost.
So let’s let the Labservatives rule in their latest form for, say, two years. Sit on our hands in a vote of confidence, say to the people “You voted for it, we offered an alternative, you did not vote for that alternative”.
Then, when they have had time to see what they really means, say “See – we told you so”. Vote them down, win the next election by a landslide.
This one was not the one to win. I am actually rather relieved.
Matthew Huntbach,
Or, the alternative view, all those Labour voters were so desperate to keep the Tories out they held their noses and voted Labour because they though a yellow vote would be a wasted vote. There’s no point arguing over it, because we will never know what their motivation was (although the swings point to a classic two party squeeze).
Waiting another two years is not an option. We’ve tried that, it doesn’t work.
There are already other campaigns, unrelated to the Lib Dems springing up. We need to join them all:
http://labs.38degrees.org.uk/content/election-what-next
Sarah Teather seems overwhelmed, i don’t blame her a great story on a poor night.
Labour hold Poplar, that wasn’t close in tne end.
Lds hold Cheltenham.