The Libertine strikes back!

The Libertine is back!

For those of you who don’t know, The Libertine is Liberal Youth’s online blogging platform. It is quite similar to LDV in that its articles are written by Libdem members, its youth members. This means that we, like LDV, are always looking for new submissions and fresh topics for discussion.

As the title suggests, The Libertine has fallen out of use for a significant period of time. The LY exec asked for applications for the positions of co-editor, and selected myself and Tom Davies. We can be found at [email protected] or [email protected]. If you have any submissions please send them here.

Alternatively, you could join our Libertine Writers’ Facebook group, where updates about the blog will be posted and where you can ask questions regarding it. So far we’ve solved how to change the blog’s favicon, how to not have a giant picture of Jeremy Browne plastered across the top, and are considering whether to pay for our own domain.

Speaking of getting started, our first post is already online. The post is written by LYer Ciaran Morrissey and is on a current sensitive topic. Feel free to leave a comment or, even better, submit a response article (assuming you are a member of LY)!

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So if you’ve any questions, feel free to contact myself or Tom either via email or Facebook message, or by joining the Facebook group. We would love to hear from as many Liberal Youth members as possible!

* Joanne Ferguson joined the Liberal Democrats in May

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15 Comments

  • Amy Wearring 23rd Dec '15 - 9:48am

    Thanks for making me aware of Libertine! Will be thinking of a post to write for it soon 🙂

  • Richard Underhill 23rd Dec '15 - 10:55am

    This could be good for recruiting in local parties. Perhaps Liberine could discuss whether there should be two groups, Youth and Students.

  • Tony Greaves 23rd Dec '15 - 12:06pm

    An odd name.

  • Two things . Firstly , Joanne , very good to have such youthful , or any , new and strong political involvement , and do you have to be a youthful member to contribute , I am in my youthful late forties! I do feel our party needs to keep in real touch with student age members , especially after the tuition fees debacle . Secondly , Lord Greaves, why an odd name , in your view ?

  • Joanne Ferguson 23rd Dec '15 - 1:16pm

    Lorenzo, thank you! I’m afraid you do have to be a member of youth. The fact that it’s for LY is pretty much the only thing that distinguishes it from here, so we’d just end up with a second LDV. My guess for why it is seen as an odd name is because there is a rockband called The Libertines XD

  • Joanne , thank you , I meant that the party in general needs to be aware of whats beyond the end of the nose of any of us , shall look at it as a site from time to time , as I find the views of various party groups interesting . Not sure Lord Greaves is thinking of the rock band orJohnny Depp film of the same title , more likely conotations of lack of moral fibre !

  • I don’t think Lord Greaves is THAT odd a name… oh, wait…

  • In reference to Lord Greaves, I must admit I am not entirely sold on the name myself. I would possibly take a guess the name may be some reference to it being for youth members. Liber-teen as it were. However of course Liberal Youth caters to members well into their 20s and full time students of all ages.

    I’m sure if anybody had any ideas of a better name we would certainly consider a change!

  • Tony Greaves 23rd Dec '15 - 7:58pm

    Well, the problem is that words have meanings.

    A few definitions of “libertine” culled from a quick google of online dictionaries:

    “1. a person, especially a man, who freely indulges in sensual pleasures without regard to moral principles.
    “his image as an unbridled libertine is a total myth.
    synonyms: philanderer, ladies’ man, playboy, rake, roué, loose-liver, Don Juan, Lothario, Casanova, Romeo…

    2. a freethinker in matters of religion.”

    “Full Definition of libertine. 1 usually disparaging : a freethinker especially in religious matters. 2 : a person who is unrestrained by convention or morality; specifically : one leading a dissolute life.”

    “1:(Noun)A person with low or no moral values
    2:(Noun)A freethinker
    3:(adj)Moraly unrestrained ”

    Wikipedia says: “A libertine is one devoid of most moral restraints, which are seen as unnecessary or undesirable, especially one who ignores or even spurns accepted morals and forms of behaviour sanctified by the larger society.[1][2] Libertines put value on physical pleasures, meaning those experienced through the senses. As a philosophy, libertinism gained new-found adherents in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, particularly in France and Great Britain. Notable among these were John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester, and the Marquis de Sade.”

    People can live the lives they wish to live, and they should accept the consequences. But “libertine” is not a description that one would think was naturally used to describe a Liberal, nor one that we would wish to associate with.

    I can’t think that even the tiny ultra-libertarian coterie who for mysterious reasons seem to want to form a far-right fringe in our party would want to be called libertines!

    Tony Greaves

  • Joanne Ferguson 23rd Dec '15 - 8:50pm

    The blog has been called The Libertine for years, I believe. I’ve not a clue who first came up with it XD

  • Richard Underhill 23rd Dec '15 - 9:17pm

    Look after your liver, you may need it.

  • Jennie, I got it , it made me laugh out LOUD! Happy Christmas !

  • Richard Underhill 26th Dec '15 - 8:44pm

    Young voters have the longest future ahead of them. 2014 saw those in Scotland make the biggest decision of their lives so far. 2016 will see another referendum, on a bigger scale, which will affect all their life chances. Please travel, campaign and vote.

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