14 December 2018 – today’s press release

Curiously, only one press release today, so without further ado…

‘Nebulous’ is but one word to describe the PM

Responding to the Prime Minister’s press conference, held after EU leaders withdrew sections of its draft conclusions, Liberal Democrat Brexit Spokesperson Tom Brake said:

Having watched the Prime Minister’s botched attempt to negotiate with EU leaders, people up and down the country will be more concerned by Brexit than ever before.

To come before EU leaders without any documented proposals is galling. Calling the Prime Minister ‘nebulous’ is just one word to describe her.

Brexit will make people poorer and reduce the UK’s standing in the world. It is time Theresa May, and Jeremy Corbyn for that matter, realised the only way out of this mess is a People’s Vote, including the option to remain in the EU.

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  • David Becket 15th Dec '18 - 11:39am

    When will the leaders of this party learn that personal attacks like this will only take us further down the polls. This press release should be withdrawn immediately.

    Junkers did not call May nebulous, he called the British approach nebulous, which when you look at the antics in the Commons last week, is spot on.

    May has got achieved the best deal we are likely to get. Even her opponents in the Labour Party are recognising that and admiring her guts in staying the course and at least getting an agreed position with the EU (read the “I” today). The public are not idiots, they will recognise that she has done her best.
    In the meantime the dinosaurs that are leading this party just throw mud.
    I am looking for a new political home. I have not seen one yet but as soon as one appears, which is possible in the next few months, I will be off.

  • A link and a question

    The question is Loan Charge the major issue this group believe it is; asking for a friend


    Ivan Rogers review of Brexit, it won’t be over in years.


  • David,
    The Tories have been playing the man not the ball for years. It works that is why they do it, asking us to be the better man or woman doesn’t, tried it during the coalition and what a disaster that was. We live in the reality we inhabit not the fantasy world we would like, and no the world isn’t nice or fair, although we can attempt to make it nicer and fairer. As to people admiring Mrs May you might but the majority of the country don’t and I’d wager as this debacle goes on even less will.

  • David Becket 15th Dec '18 - 1:41pm

    I do not admire Mrs May, her history as Home Secretary is enough to turn any “liberal” off, but she has achieved the best deal possible. Many will see that, even though they do not like the deal. The hard right on her party are slinging mud at her, we should not go down that negative path. We should be offering a positive alternative, not just the peoples vote, but how we are going to deal with the other issues and how we would like to see the EU reformed. Mud slinging at personalities detracts from what should be our positive message.

  • The use of the n-word (“nebulous”) was bound to annoy some people. Vince’s
    comments on Any Questions seemed
    more measured than the Press Release. There is plenty of scope for non-personal serious criticism of both May and Corbyn this week. They should be charged with wasting political time.

  • David,
    I’m afraid we will have to disagree, we live in a world ran by emotion, facts alone I’m afraid will fail to cut through. If playing to emotion means that May must be demonised, then demonised she must be, because better her as a demon than the disaster of Brexit she is the mid wife too.

  • I’m afraid Mr Brake’s comment on Mrs May was cheap and demeaned himself. I demand better.

    The opinion that our opponents should be demonised was also cheap, and if I may so immature.

  • Peter Martin 15th Dec '18 - 6:19pm

    The word ‘nebulous’ has to be understood in its political context. In the cut and thrust of domestic politics it is entirely within the limits of acceptability for a rival politician, Jeremy Corbyn, Vince Cable or even Tom Brake, to describe Ms May this way. And vice versa of course. If you dish it out you have to be able to take it.

    We wouldn’t expect this, either to from, an overseas politician though. And that’s why Juncker is out of order.

  • David Becket 15th Dec '18 - 10:52pm

    @ Martin

    Typo, not intended

  • But David I seem to remember you were a fan of Bevan’s quote about rats. That was a man who through bitter experience knew what respect Tories were due, I agree with him, do you? We are entering dark times, the times of being nice have ended, accept it or be swept aside.

  • You have a faulty memory, though I have great respect for Nye Bevan and his achievement in setting up the BHS.

  • nvelope2003 16th Dec '18 - 8:43pm

    I never realised that Aneurin Bevan set up BHS. It makes Philip Green look even worse, almost sacrilegious. I think there was a chap called Lloyd George who set up something called the NHS.

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