Lib Dem Voice has polled our members-only forum to discover what Lib Dem members think of various political issues, the Coalition, and the performance of key party figures. The survey closed at 10am today. 747 party members responded – thank you – and we’ll be publishing the full results here.
Tim Farron’s four-year stint as Lib Dem Party President finishes at the end of this year. The contest to succeed him was a three-way election between three female candidates: Sal Brinton, Daisy Cooper, and Liz Lynne.
We asked a series of questions about the party presidency in our survey…
91% in our survey say they will vote! (That won’t be the turnout.)
Three candidates are standing for the post of Party President, an election which is being decided by a ballot of all party members. Do you plan to vote in this election?
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91% – Yes, I plan to vote in this election
9% – No, I do not plan to vote in this election
Though it’s great to see so many of those signed up to our members’ forum actively engaged in our internal democracy, as I pointed out when we previously polled this means our results below need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
The turnout in the presidential election will not be 91%. The turnout in 2010 was just 42%. We’ve always known our surveys are skewed towards the activist vote (indeed, towards the male activist vote). This only matters if the responses of activists are likely to differ considerably from those of ‘armchair’ members. On most policy issues – when tested against other polls – this appears not to be the case.
However, in an internal election where personality is a key factor I can’t be confident that our surveys are necessarily reliable measures. That said, our surveys previously correctly predicted the two previous winners of the Party Presidency, Tim Farron and, before him, Baroness (Ros) Scott. We’ll find out on Saturday when the official result is announced.
The 91% of those who said they would vote were then asked a follow-up question…
91% have voted or pretty much made up their minds
You have answered that you plan to vote in the election for Party President. The question after this one will ask you to rank the declared candidates in order of your current preference. However, if you still have absolutely no idea who you will vote for, please say so now.
- 91% – I have voted / have a good idea of who I will vote for to be party president
9% – I have no idea idea who I would vote for yet
The vast majority of those who said they would vote have more or less made up their minds when filling in our survey (or have already voted). Unsurprisingly, this is a turnaround from September when less than half who said they would vote had any idea who they’d choose.
The 91% of those who said they would vote and had a good idea of for whom (or who had already voted) were then asked the crunch question using the preferential voting system that will be used in the actual all-member ballot…
Who do you want to be the next Lib Dem Party President?
Daisy Cooper has 52% of first preferences in our survey
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Round 1:
30% – Sal Brinton
52% – Daisy Cooper
18% – Liz Lynne
The winner in this poll is Daisy Cooper, securing more than 50% of first preferences (and therefore second preferences weren’t needed to decide the winner). Congratulations to her on this strong showing. However, I stress the caveat already inserted that our surveys are skewed towards activist members who may well not be representative of the wider ‘armchair’ membership.
In particular, I’m doubtful that Daisy will win more than 50% of the votes in the first stage. If she doesn’t, then first and second preferences will come into play. For the record, then, here’s what happened in our survey at the further stages:
- 2nd preferences:
42% – Sal Brinton
25% – Daisy Cooper
33% – Liz Lynne
- 3rd preferences:
30% – Sal Brinton
22% – Daisy Cooper
48% – Liz Lynne
Finally, we did ask the 9% of those Lib Dem members who said they won’t be voting at all why not. Among that fairly limited sample, here’s what we found:
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32% – I don’t know enough about the candidates
9% – I don’t know enough about what the Party President does
28% – I don’t want to vote for any of the candidates
4% – I don’t think the role of Party President matters
26% – Other
Among those who answered ‘Other’, by the way, there was a range of reasons given, mostly due to feeling like they didn’t know enough to make an informed decision and were content to leave th decision to other members.
* Stephen was Editor (and Co-Editor) of Liberal Democrat Voice from 2007 to 2015, and writes at The Collected Stephen Tall.
11 Comments
Perhaps whoever wins will be able to veto fundraising merchandise which includes a Christmas Card which seems to feature a snowman made out of ‘yellow snow’. Taking the p…..?
Some interesting comments from Sam Phripp —
http://sosamsaid.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/thats-it-voting-for-lib-dem-president.html
The second and third preference votes would be much more interesting if they were broken down in terms of how people had used their first preference.
I am delighted to see Daisy Cooper get such a strong showing in the survey. Hopefully the actual ballot will be just as successful for her.
She is young fresh and untainted by the past
Angela, I voted for Daisy, but I can’t help but wonder if that’s what some Conservatives thought about Chloe Smith before she was eaten alive by Paxman. If Daisy is elected, she will need the sympathy, backing and help of more experienced ‘insiders’ to truly represent the party and achieve her aims.
@Nick Barlow, I ran the ballot again, removing a candidate each time to see where the second preferences transferred to.
Sal -> 92 Daisy – 70 Liz – 30 Exhausted
Daisy -> 183 Sal – 108 Liz – 47 Exhausted
Liz -> 50 Sal – 45 Daisy – 19 Exhausted
Thanks for the breakdown, Ryan.
I voted 1st pref. for Sal Brinton because she was the only one who seemed to understand the role of Party President, complete with clearly worked out plan. That is not to say that the other candidates were not outstanding in many ways but that they both seem to be pitching for another role, involving lots of campaigning etc. but not for Party President.
“Untainted by the past” is an odd phrase. Anyone who’s been around a bit and handled plenty of difficult issues will have some “taints”.
Does this indicate a very high turn out of the more than 40,000 members?
Saturday 29th November 2014 We were expecting a result “around midday”.
Then at 9.37 this morning we were told by LibDem Press Office that an anouncement would be made at 2pm.
It is now just after 3.30pm and we are being told an announcement will be made at 4pm
5pm and still no result.
I had assumed that this was one election that a Liberal Democrat could win without any trouble. But ……,
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