Former MP Pugh elected to Council in a night of Lib Dem gains and holds

Congratulations to Cllr John Pugh. Southport’s former MP who retired from the Commons at the General Election has had a cracker of a win in a by-election for the Dukes Ward of Sefton Council.

That great result was upstaged by a 25% swing from the Tories in Arun.


And to cap it all, there was another gain from the Tories in Devon.

And in a town council seat we were defending in Eastleigh we won with 65% of the vote.

Well done to all our new Councillors and their campaign teams.

* Caron Lindsay is Editor of Liberal Democrat Voice and blogs at Caron's Musings

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26 Comments

  • Ian Patterson 3rd Nov '17 - 12:04am

    Also Braunton East in North Devon!

  • I await with interest theakes take on this 😉

  • Steven Ward held the East Ward on Gainsborough Town Council for the Lib Dems with over 50% of the vote. #VoteSaxon the former UKIP parliamentary Candidate for Gainsborough finishing last behind a nondescript.

  • As lovely as it is to see Tim Farron in the picture, should we not have updated?

  • Poor old DEADKIP deader than a Norwegian Blue Parrot, not looking great for the Greens either. I have some sympathy for the Greens but the lose of DEADKIP is no loss at all, I fear however something will replace them a new nastier Tory party perhaps, O too late it has.

  • Terrific set of results. Well done to all involved.

  • Sue Sutherland 3rd Nov '17 - 9:46am

    Very welcome news indeed.

  • Kevin Hawkins 3rd Nov '17 - 9:50am

    A great night after a few weeks of fairly dismal results. The big question is whether this is the start of a return to the by-election form we were enjoying a year ago or whether it is a temporary blip caused by the Tories current woes. Time will tell.

  • @Simon, not only did Labour fail to beat the Tories in Duke’s, I see they also lost vote share.

    Perhaps you should contact your local trading standards authority and complain about Labour’s false advertising? :^)

  • Dr Pugh won the election, held on Thursday Novemebr 2, by a comfortable margin with more than double the votes (1680) of second place Ann Permain (790), who ran for the Conservative Party.

    Frank Hanley of Labour finished in third place (417), well ahead of UKIP’s Terry Durrance (69) and the Green candidate Nick Senior (45).

    http://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/news/southport-west-lancs/former-mp-john-pugh-returns-13852712

    They only need another 1300 votes to win Simon, I suspect they are referring to it as a near miss.

  • nvelope2003 3rd Nov '17 - 11:32am

    frankie: The Green candidate in North Devon increased their vote by 10.5 % to 31.3 % while the Liberal Democrat vote increased by 3% to 37.1 %. Nevertheless things do seem to be looking up at last. Congratulations to the winners.

  • Simon Shaw bemoans the Labour “only we can beat the Tories…” slogan. I would hasten to point out that the Lib Dems have this ridiculous habit of putting up “Lib Dems winning here!” posters during elections, even in places where, at recent national elections, Labour have pushed us from second place to third place.

    My father, a life-long Liberal/Lid Dem supporter who only joined the party a year or two ago, said he thinks these are just absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing posters. I agree entirely. Simply factually incorrect, as are the Labour posters in Southport to which Simon refers.

    Anyway, well done Dr Pugh!

  • David Becket 3rd Nov '17 - 1:00pm

    I agree with Michael, let us put the Winning Here posters on the Nov 5th Bonfire, where they belong.

    Well done John.

  • I would not get too excited. I suspect John Pugh’s name carried a lot of weight and in North Devon I belive the Conservatives did not stand in either the Council or Parish vacancy, (must be complicated reasons for this), it was Lib Dem, Labour and Green. Guess we got part of the Tory vote! Arun on paper looks the pick but interestingly again it appears substantial UKIP vote to Lib Dem where we “give it one”, sorry inappropriate langueage.
    There are still no signs whatsover of us getting off the floor in the old Labour areas, where 2 & 3% is the norm, if we are lucky.
    Still gains are gains, better than the opposites. Come on the protest vote!!!

  • “Langueage” was not a pun!!!!

  • paul barker 3rd Nov '17 - 1:25pm

    Does anyone know the figures from Braunton East ?
    I cant find it anywhere .

  • Lorenzo Cherin 3rd Nov '17 - 1:29pm

    Congratulations and admiration, to John , to Simon and their colleagues.

    And well said to all especially David , re those daft and dated, very , posters !

  • theakes,

    You are wrong about Devon

    The Liberal Democrats have made a by election clean sweep in Braunton, Derrick Spear was elected as the new district councillor for Braunton East and Adam Bradford was elected to Braunton Parish Council.

    The seats were vacant after long serving councillor Roy Lucas stood down.

    In a fairly close contest, Mr Spear polled 459 votes ahead of the Green Party’s Brad Bunyard on 387, with Felix Milton (Conservative) on 225 and Mark Cann (Labour) on 165. The turn out was 41 per cent.

    http://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/braunton-by-election-2017-winners-1-5264102

    but I suspect you are right about getting part of the Tory vote as by the looks of it so did the Greens. How unfortunate for them they couldn’t hang onto it.

  • nvelope2003,

    The Greens seem to do well in the South West everywhere else they are generally being outperformed by UKIP and that isn’t good for them.

  • paul barker 3rd Nov '17 - 2:03pm

    congratulations to all concerned.
    Theres no doubt that this weeks results on their own represent a peak but there has been a steady improvement in our results since our low point in early July.
    Over the last 4 Months our Local Vote has gone up by around 9%, taking us back to where we were in May, a National Equivalent Vote of around 18%.
    That is way out of line with our current Polling of around 7% but similar to previous recoveries , typically our Local performance recovers earlier & faster than our National voting. We have usually done better at a Local level & the gap between our Local & National performance has opened up since The Coalition.
    Can I stress that I am reporting past improvements & not prediction any future ones. We have reasonable cause to hope though.

  • I was waiting for Theakes take on things. Highly amusing on a Friday!

  • Sue Sutherland 3rd Nov '17 - 3:42pm

    Michael I so agree about the winning here posters. We seem to have been losing ever since they were adopted! A clear case of hubris and a totally embarrassing failure to face up to our subsequent nemesis.

  • My bad about the Cons. Must have looked at the wrong information. Greens have been slipping back in Devon, have relatives strongly involved with, this was one of their major concentration of effort cases. It is a warning.
    When we start getting a minimum of 10 -15% in all Labour wards in North and the Midlands I will dare to hope.
    Another problem for the future: Brexit does not happen as expected, see UKIP surge again? Bound to hit us, that floating protest vote.

  • nvelope2003 4th Nov '17 - 9:01am

    Liberal Democrats seem to do better when their is no (popular ? ) local independent or Green candidate standing so rather implying that they are still the recipient of protest votes where they are seen as the main challenger to the 2 big parties, except in the North where Labour seems to be going from strength to strength, hoovering up former Green, TUSC and Liberal Democrat votes in a determined attempt to get rid of any possibility of a Conservative victory. I doubt if a Corbyn Labour victory will help the Liberal Democrats and they can expect a long period in the wilderness if that should happen. The present Labour leaders would probaly like to abolish future general elections, at least in the form we are accustomed to.

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