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It has been proposed the Liberal Democrats should be able to allow job-share candidates to stand on a joint ticket for election to Parliament to open up the role of MP to a wider group of people than at present. If elected, agreed protocols around voting, serving on select committees and other MPs’ duties would bind the job-share candidates. Do you support or oppose the idea of job-share MPs?
34%
- – Support
49% – Oppose
17% – Don’t know
By a slim-but-clear margin Lib Dem members oppose the idea of job-share MPs, with almost one-half rejecting it. However, a substantial minority of one-third give it their backing. Here’s a sample of your comments:
There are much bigger issues with our electoral system than this.
Important for gender equality, allowing people with young children to be MPs
We need to some more details but it should not be dismissed out of hand as some have done.
This can only devalue the standing of MPs at a time when we are supposed to be concerned to rebuild same.
That is a fantastic and innovative idea, that will allow skilled candidates to take part without resort to illiberal positive discrimination.
It will make getting someone elected even more difficult.
Radical, liberal, progressive – what’s not to like!! Have raised this at conference before, but let’s ensure it’s available for all, including men 🙂
It is completely impractical and would require major legal changes. What for example happens if one half of a job share dies or resigns?
Need to know how would work, but could come back into active politics if passed – and you want an older person’s point of view?
there are much better ways of promoting diversity
Totally ridiculous. Being a Parliamentarian is not a hobby, or like any other job. There are barriers that mean that some groups are not able to participate, and these need to be dismantled, but job sharing is potentially doubling the numbers of MP’s, and is an unrealistic and an unworkable option.
I think this is an innovative concept with much merit, but it will be exceedingly difficult to put into practice.
Maybe it should be piloted in a small number of constituencies? What about trying out a similar system in local government.?
As so often it depends on the detail. The danger is that it drives up costs and creates potential divisions. Multi member constituencies seem preferable to me.
Better to have multi-member constituencies with lists. If then someone needs time off for ill health or maternity/paternity they are covered by the next in the list.
I think this is highly impractical, the important thing is to get the best legislators and support them appropriately to do their job.
If we want a wider group in parliament, then we should campaign for a system of election which assists that. This proposal will simply bring tokenism into our political system – in the same way US presidential candidates have a balanced ticket.
Sounds good but not sure I like the idea of over a 1000 MPs all with their own expenses. a vote loser when it is dissected.
My experience of watching managers in job shares in senior positions in charity and the civil service is that they don’t deliver the best result for the organisation. Unfortunately I expect the same result were this applied to the role of MP.
Lots of questions about how it would work in practice – how voting would work, Ministerial ambitions etc.
Think this idea aims to get more professionals into parliament ie more of the same, not a wider cross-section of people. If want better representation, get rid of the corporate competencies framework. find the candidates then build the right support structures around them.
Probably some marginal gain but really … at a time of national crisis this is a severe case of bicycle shed syndrome.
Ludicrous idea.
Happens in all walks of life – I have yet to see a genuine good reason why not (they might disagree is not a good reason!)
I can’t think of a worse idea to reform Parliament, with the possible exception of AV. We need to push for true proportional representation (and at local level in England and Wales too, as in Scotland) and an increase in the number of people to sit in the HoC, in line with the general increase in population.
Just crazy. An MP is the figurehead of a team anyway. Do the job or don’t. I agree more should be done to attract diverse candidates, but this isn’t the answer,
Crazy, half baked idea. It will not achieve what it’s proponents seem to be suggesting. Stick with Multi-member constituencies with equality balanced party slates under STV.
I think it is a silly idea, especially when there are many other much more significant changes that could be made to tackle unfairness in the work place.
There will be no clear responsibility, if there are tow MPs who determines their right to attend,speak and vote. What if they fall out?
Give it a whirl. But STV would be better !
In principle a two for one offering…
My opposition is practical: what happens in the circumstance that those sharing the role disagree on how to vote. If they abstain, then constituents lose a voice. If they vote one way, it will probably tend to be on the party line, leading to a further loss of parliamentary independence.
Both MPs would end up being full-time despite efforts not to. Increasing MPs is not the answer.
A daft proposal which from experience of job share is doomed to failure
Interesting idea
Would be really messy in terms of responsibility, where the two candidates disagreed and what would happen if they fell out. Nice but slightly mad.
It is a good, radical idea, although I recognise it would be difficult to work out the detail.
Sounds like a dogs breakfast
Too complicated for constituents to work
Fully support. Not only would it open up the job to a wider group, but the ‘two for the price of one’ in expertise and ideas could potentially be a huge gain for the country.
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11 Comments
I would like a go at that. Could I do any better, well I probably would not do worse, So sad for the attitudes by some of the Conservative MP’s and a few of your own.
Look what we can do to the poor.
Oh dear. This is the most practically ridiculous and undemocratic idea that has been (recently) invented. Actually if you are going to consider it seriously, you have to have it everywhere or nowhere. But it is actually just stark, staring daft.
Tony Greaves
Tony, take it there’s not much chance of me becoming a part-time peer then?
There are hundreds of part-time peers. But they don’t share their part-time with another part-time! Then of course there are the ones who are not even part-time in any serious way…
Tony
Tony – why undemocratic? I don’t see why electing two people with half a vote each is different from electing one with a whole vote.
I can’t see it as workable (or likley to achieve it’s intended outcome) but I can’t see how Tony Greaves can claim it is undemocratic?
Why don’t we quadruple MPs pay and ban them from any outside work? The problem with parliament is not that noone is job sharing, its that a great proportion of MPs have multiple jobs when being an MP should be a full time job. We’ve ended up with a chamber full of braying pocket lining muppets. Many would need all too little encouragement to spend even less time there and more getting filthy rich, so long as they can maintain their contact books and status.
I can see it as entirely workable, it happens all the time in other spheres.
I have seen no fatal objections, merely practical queries which could easily be resolved.
Tony, surely you could leave it to the electorate to decide what they want to vote for?
AIUI, France has a system where MPs can nominate a ‘deputy’ when they’re elected – if they then take up a government role, the deputy takes their place in the national assembly. While I think job-sharing generally is a good idea, perhaps it might be best to see if an idea like that could get widespread support, as it would also help to counteract the effect of the ‘payroll vote’ in the Commons.
It really surprises me that so many people in our party are against this idea. Over the years I’ve had a number of job sharers who’ve reported to me at work. I think it’s wonderful. You often get better results for the same cost because there are two brains working on everything they do. It’s also a great opportunity to balance out personal strengths and weaknesses, which I can imagine would help in parliament particularly: some MPs are great at working with their communities, others are great in the committee room, or good policy makers – not everyone can excel at all these things. A job share MP could mean we get the best of all worlds.
I am a real advocate of job sharing in the work place and can see no reason why parliament should be any different. It would also ground our MPs in the real world by allowing them to have their irons in other fires: spending time as parent or having another part time job or volunteer work. Most people have had enough of MPs who make a profession of politics and want politicians to have had some life experience.
If we want parliament to reflect the people it represents then job sharing MPs should be an option, after all there are enough job-sharing workers out there for job sharing MPs to represent.
I just wonder whether enough people casting judgement on job sharing had any real experience of it to base their decision on realty.
I think to have a job share MP would make him more understanding of the problems that have to be faced. Also, how about the millionaire club we have at present? I think there should be a cut off point where they can draw money from the public purse, we are all in this together.
By the way for Osborne and his parking in a disabled bay, that is not a very moral attitude to have. Most will accept that it is not what should happen. Also, healthy eating.