Make your views known on Syria: Lib Dem members’ survey now live

The new LDV members’ survey focusing on Syria is now live. So if you are one of the c.1,500 registered members of the Liberal Democrat Voice forum — and any paid-up party member is welcome to join — then you now have the opportunity to make your views known.

There are five questions relating to the current situation in Syria. 300 Lib Dem members have completed the survey within a couple of hours of it going live. We’ll be reporting the initial results on Thursday, though the survey will stay live for a couple more days to give as many people as possible the chance to have their say.

It should take no longer than 5 minutes minutes to fill in. All registered members of the Forum have been e-mailed with a unique link to take you to the survey. If you haven’t received yours, or if you are signing up to the Forum now, please drop Ryan Cullen a line at [email protected]. Please do check your spam folder first, though, in case it’s ended up there!

You can access the results from our previous LDV members surveys by clicking here — and you can access a Google spreadsheet of our ‘Coalition tracker’ and ‘leading Lib Dems’ ratings here.

* Stephen was Editor (and Co-Editor) of Liberal Democrat Voice from 2007 to 2015, and writes at The Collected Stephen Tall.

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6 Comments

  • Rebecca Hanson 28th Aug '13 - 11:15pm

    Thanks for doing this Stephen. I really hope someone will read the comments.

    I’m glad others have commented on the need to explore what the objectives and likely consequences of action are and also the importance of establishing a UN mandate.

    However there is another very major issues which seems to be being wantonly overlooked.

    Chemical strikes may have been carried out by people who are fighting for the government. But that does not mean they were the intention of the Assad regime. There are others who would have the capability of seeing this achieved and who also good reason to want it to happen.

    There is, of course, one course of action which we can all support which is the DEC crisis fund for the refugees.

  • nuclear cockroach 29th Aug '13 - 1:13am

    I don’t see the utility of a limited intervention. The West should be prepared for a massive intervention and the subsequent rebuilding of Syria, or it shouldn’t bother at all. A half-assed intervention will be worse than none.

    I would particularly draw attention to the declaration by Western governments that Assad, his government and his brass are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Any intervention which allows those culpable of such crimes to remain in power could only be seen as inconsistent or weak.

    I don’t trust the resolve of the US government, nor the French of British to see this through to the end, cost what it should cost. I am therefore rather sceptical about the whole undertaking.

  • Stephen, thanks for organizing the survey. Really apposite questions! Like the way that the survey goes further to examine views on other interventions and R2P (Responsibility to Protect) issues. I am looking forward to the results.

  • The question is – why is Nick going along with Cameron just because he is part of coalition with him. As a coalition partner he can disagree in cabinet.

    I am amazed after Iraq that Nick goes along with the bellicose Cameron/Hague view. We have no evidence in fact the evidence might well go the other way and show that the rebels have used chemical weapons or a rogue outfit of Assad’s regime did it. In each case we have no right to retaliate.

    Liberal tend to think carefully before rushing into military adventures. The LibDems got huge praise over the Iraq invasion because they questioned the legality and outcomes of such intervention. With Nick going along with Cameron (if that indeed is what he is doing and in order not to rock the coalition) then it is a huge mistake especially as most people are at best skeptical of a bombing campaign – the LDs stand the possibility of losing a lot of respect on these sort of issues.

    It is interesting that former FS David Owen and former foreign affairs spokesman Ming Campbell are to say the least more careful in deliberating on Syria. Nick really must take a leaf out of their book and return to traditional non-bellicose non-hawkish Liberal sensibilities on this issue. Labour is now (irony of ironies) seen as taking the softly softly highground on this issue now; whereas had Nick urged caution in Cabinet, it would have been the right move plus keeping the LibDems in the public’s mind with maintaining their Iraq cred.

    Most people are skeptical and many do not feel we should be doing America’s bidding i.e. maintaining their hegemony in the Middle East by ousting hostile independent states in the region.

    In the end both Cameron and Nick had to bow to the fact they would have lost the vote as Labour, many back bench LDs and Tories reflecting public opinion would have defeated the original motion.

  • nuclear cockroach 29th Aug '13 - 11:14am

    @David Orr

    Why would you think anything other than that government forces in Syria have used these weapons?

    They will be kept under the strictest security, with regular asset checks, by the most loyal elite forces. Any rebel attack on a facility in which they have been stored will have been repulsed with the full might of the Syrian state. If, in the remote likelihood, rebel forces had captured such a facility and removed the weapons, then the Syrian Minister for Disinformation and Boring Journalists to Tears would by now have named date, time and location, together with type of asset and number, in order to hold off any reprisals from Western forces.

  • Quoting the DM:

    “But his refusal to support the Coalition sparked a furious response from the heart of government.
    ‘Number 10 and the Foreign Office think Miliband is a f****** c**** and a copper-bottomed s***,’ a government source told The Times.
    ‘The French hate him now and he’s got no chance of building an alliance with the US Democratic Party,’ the source added.”

    So, there we have it. What really matters is getting on well with the French and building alliances with the US.

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