Vince: Brexit deal is a disaster for the British people

The Brexit Deal is a disaster and the people should be given the chance to vote on it says Vince Cable.

Speaking as EU leaders endorsed it, Vince said:

This is a sad day for everyone involved; the deal the EU have endorsed remains a disaster for the British people.

What has been agreed is vague at best and is essentially an agreement to have an agreement. There is still no majority in Parliament for it, and “No Brexit” remains the only real alternative.

Nobody voted to make themselves poorer and damage the UK’s standing in the world. It is time the Prime Minister granted a People’s Vote, with the option to remain in the EU.

At the London Regional Conference yesterday, he said t was important to get “no deal” off the table as we campaign for “no Brexit.”

He was also asked about Stephen Lloyd’s intention to vote for the deal. He acknowledged that this was a problem, but said that Lloyd’s colleagues and his local party were trying to get him to change his mind.

In Scotland, Willie Rennie said we shouldn’t leave this to the Tories to decide:

Now we know the deal that the PM thinks is good enough, now is the time for the people to decide whether it actually is good enough. This is too important to leave to a bitter, divided Conservative Party. We urgently need a People’s Vote.

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  • Actually some people did vote to make themselves poorer. I know we all find that a strange decsion but even when the costs are pointed out we still have an ardent Brexiteers who will proclaim “It is worth the cost”. Now you might think “They are only saying that because any cost is worth it, when the alternative is looking at a fool in the mirror ” all I can say to that is “You might think that, I couldn’t possibly comment”.

  • Actually, the young vote to make themselves poorer whenever they support globalization and open borders. The myth is they have freedom to live an love as citizens of the world. The reality is that they’re loaded with debt, stuck on zero our contracts, facing a future where death is the only way to retire and can barely afford to leave their parent’s homes let alone trot the globe!

  • John,
    You can point out that truth as much ad you like, but the diehard Brexiteers will ignore you. Their selfworth is to wrapped up in achieving Brexit. If they don’t achieve that, why people would think they where fools and failures. So no amount of facts will persuade them otherwise. On they will trot convinced they are men of distinction, while others wonder at their addiction to fantasy. They see the failures of our society but rather than take responsiblity for it they need to blame someone else, so blame the EU they do.

  • John
    I like the idea of a smaller and more parochial Britain, with less pretentions to world power.

  • “Stop the World I want to get off” doesn’t work Glen.

  • Frank
    Glenn with two Ns.
    It’s not case of stop the world I want to get off. It’s more a case I’m fed up of British politicians wanting to strut their unfunky stuff on the world stage and thinking it would be quite nice to be in the lower world power rungs like say new Zealand or Iceland or Norway. I think it’s entirely possible to exist without huge pretentions of power or the return to some sort uneasy fake European unity last seen when Papal decrees. and pantaloons were all the rage.

  • Innocent Bystander 26th Nov '18 - 8:23am

    I voted Remain but some of the commentary here is absurd. Of the 193 sovereign states in the United Nations 165 have never been members of the EU at all and only a few have applied to join and they have no intention of contributing a Euro Cent to the project but will expect, and get, massive restructuring funding.
    I agree with Glenn. Why do we need a seat on the Security Council, nuclear armed submarines, patrolling the seas 24/7, the useless BBC, the truly despised HoL, the endless displays of Ruritanian pageantry such as the weekly Royal Weddings and births?
    I am coming to think that an economic shock might be what the country needs to finally rid the British of their sense of Imperial entitlement to wealth without having to earn it, their smug belief that we have to educate the world and be its example of progressive tolerance, and their touching faith that some Keynesian Hocus-Pocus will generate an economic miracle without the sacrifices and efforts other nations seem to have to exert.

  • John Roffey 26th Nov '18 - 8:48am

    Having decided not to post on LDV for the last four months – whilst the Brexit debate has raged at its most contentious – isn’t it time for the Party to focus its attention on becoming a significant political force once again?

    Now that NC, who I understand instigated the concept that staying in the EU was more important than the survival of the Party, is departing for pastures new and more rewarding – would it not be better to, mostly, withdraw from the Brexit debate and to focus on those issues that are likely to be of most concern to the voters at the next GE?

    The Party can continue to support the idea of a second referendum – which seems unlikely whether or not May survives as PM – but recognise, should there be one, little or no credit [blame?] will be apportioned to the Lib/Dems – but to Labour via Blair’s chum Kier Stammer.

    If evidence were needed of how damaging battling to keep the UK in the EU at any cost to the Party has been – surely the fact that a ramshackled Ukip recently registered a higher rating in a poll [8%] compared to the Lib/Dems [7%].

    Such a move might also start healing the divisions within the Party that seems to have beset other parties, organisations, families and friendships.

  • Christopher Haigh 27th Nov '18 - 3:30pm

    @John Roffey- I am also well confused by the position of the party on Brexit. I thought it was to campaign for a vote on the negotiated deal- not to actually oppose the deal itself. I must confess to being horror struck at the very thought of going through another referendum campaign however. Since what they did to Ted Heath I’ve not had a good word for the Tories but I do now support Mrs May on Brexit.

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